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Hoiberg interview on Miller, Foye, Richard, and himself... 

Post#1 » by Mcfale313 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:55 am

http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/ma ... 80828.html

Hoiberg hits game winning shot with assist from Mike miller at 4 on 4 scrimmage @ target center

Miller was on fire, running up and down the court, hits his shots whenever he's open

Randy Foye:
Foye's shooting is improved even further, 100% healthy, making better decisions, watched the last 200 assists from Chris Paul last season on tape, improved his passing visions as floor general, and looking to keep his 40+% from 3

Trudell consider 08 Miller equal to the 04 Hoiberg (around 49% from 3...?)

Mike Miller:
Hoiberg thought otherwise, claiming Miller a way better and purer shooter, who has very good work ethic, and has crazy summer training routines, and a very good rebounder with height, goood defender and team defense guy, will play both the 2 and the 3 spot next season
As the interview proceeds, Miller hits 16 straight 3 pointer

Chris Richard:
Shows very good defensive ability, looking to improve his offensive skills, will likely remain with the team
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Post#2 » by Tekkenlaw » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:55 am

Foye is going to rip it up next season.
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Post#3 » by southern wolf » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:05 am

Can't wait to see how foye plays after a full (hopefully injury free) pre season. And if he plays anything like chris paul i'll be happy. lol

And Mick Miller will be a force if he keeps this hot shooting going into the season.
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Post#4 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:31 pm

did you just call him McMiller?

sounds like somebody has a new nickname
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Post#5 » by collin_k41 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:43 pm

To get a real nickname you go here. www.getnicknames.com
I did one for Mike Miller and here are the results....
1.Pablo Picante
2.Talon Terror
3.Monkey Man
4.Shotgun Shirlie
5.Dr. Demolition

ok nevermind don't go to that site.
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Post#6 » by TrentTuckerForever » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:49 pm

^Pablo Picante?

I don't think Miller is anywhere near the same kind of player that Hoiberg was. They're both white guys and great shooters, fine, but Miller is much bigger and more versatile (remember when Cassell got hurt in the WCF? It was KG, not Hoiberg, who took over the ballhandling duties.)

Hoiberg was a specialist, Miller is a very good all around player.

On Foye - I think he's headed for a breakout year. Nowhere near the level of Paul (who's a pure point playing on a veteran team set up to play to his strengths), but he should be average 15+ points and shoot 40% from 3. I'm not sure what his assist numbers will be like... even really successful shooting points like Chauncey Billups only average 5 or 6 assists per game. We'll see.
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Post#7 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:48 pm

I would consider a breakout year like 20/5 or 6 dimes.

16 points, 5 assists does not get breakout year cred.

I'm feeling good about Foye too though. I'm feeling good Foye and Miller the most. McCants a little less. Jefferson I haven't heard anything, I'm ready for some stories about how somebody saw Al and his endurance is like 150% better than last year.
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Post#8 » by Basti » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:54 pm

TrentTuckerForever wrote:^Pablo Picante?

I don't think Miller is anywhere near the same kind of player that Hoiberg was. They're both white guys and great shooters, fine, but Miller is much bigger and more versatile (remember when Cassell got hurt in the WCF? It was KG, not Hoiberg, who took over the ballhandling duties.)

Hoiberg was a specialist, Miller is a very good all around player.


I haven't seen Miller playing a lot so I don't know how his D is but Freddie was an underrated defender. he was not a shut-down defender but he was a good team defender.
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Post#9 » by Cy32 » Mon Sep 1, 2008 8:05 pm

Hoiberg was a specialist, Miller is a very good all around player


Freddie was always an excellent all around player. Every team he played for the TV analysts would say he didn't get enough credit for what he did for the team. His turnovers were almost non existent and he could come in and make the difference with a team was in the doldrums and get the offense to moving.

Even though he wasn't even the point guard he holds the NBA record for having the most assists without a single turnover in BACK to BACK games 25/0. It was in games when he played in Chicago and the second game was against Sam I AM. Why I always say and always hate for super stars to always get the credit. In that game the Bulls would have won but Artest who was the big rave then in his rookie year just stood and watched and let the assassin shoot a very off balance three pointer to take the game. Freddie might have had a longer string without a turnover but again Artest stood and watch a good pass go out of bounds giving Freddie a turnover. Afterward Artest said "I didn't know you had a streak going (something I'm sure Freddie didn't remind him of) or I could have saved it. It's those kind of attitudes from any kind of player who loses games for your team.

Freddie was always in the top five most often the best in the NBA in the least amount of turnover to both assists and steals. In 03-04 he had 2.50 steals for every turnover whereas most players have way more turnovers than steals for a negative ratio. Comparing Freddie to Miller Freddie averaged .79/.54 career steals to T/O to Miller's .70/1.88 on about half the minutes played and Freddie averaged 1.6 to 3.0 assists per game (more than half as many assists per game) on 18.4 to 32.3 minutes per game comparison.

I think Miller will be a great addition to the Wolves team (no need for McCants now) but in following his career he often loses composure when the going gets tough. Maybe Freddie can straighten him out in that category.

Even if teams don't shoot well they can very often win games from better teams but instead they give their opponent points x2 by being careless and giving the opponent more scoring opportunities and less for their team.
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Post#10 » by TrentTuckerForever » Tue Sep 2, 2008 9:56 pm

^Cy, I know you're a big Hoiberg fan, as I am, and I know you're somebody's Gramma so I won't bust on you too hard. But the point of my post was that Miller and Hoiberg aren't comperable players because Miller's just plain better. Hoiberg started 61 games in his 10 year career and averaged 5 points per game.

Not bad at all for a 2nd round pick, but that's the point: Miller was drafted 5th overall, and has averaged 14.4 points in his 431 starts. He was the Rookie of the Year in '01 also won the 6th Man of the year award in '06.

Miller only gets compared to Hoiberg because they're both white. In my humble opinion they're not comperable players in any way - Hoiberg was careful, efficient, smart and a great shooter, but he averaged less than 14 minutes per game for a reason.
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Post#11 » by Cy32 » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:16 am

TrentTuckerForever wrote:^Cy, I know you're a big Hoiberg fan, as I am, and I know you're somebody's Gramma so I won't bust on you too hard. But the point of my post was that Miller and Hoiberg aren't comperable players because Miller's just plain better. Hoiberg started 61 games in his 10 year career and averaged 5 points per game.

Not bad at all for a 2nd round pick, but that's the point: Miller was drafted 5th overall, and has averaged 14.4 points in his 431 starts. He was the Rookie of the Year in '01 also won the 6th Man of the year award in '06.

Miller only gets compared to Hoiberg because they're both white. In my humble opinion they're not comperable players in any way - Hoiberg was careful, efficient, smart and a great shooter, but he averaged less than 14 minutes per game for a reason.


Yes Freddie did average 14 minutes a game for a reason. His first four years in the league he backed up one of the most prolific 3pt shooters of all time, Reggie Miller. Freddie would have had an all together different career had he went to a bad team in the beginning where he could have been a starter. When he went to Chicago he got hurt his sixth game which was one of the best games of his career when he outplayed while defending Paul Pierce. That injury only allowed Freddie to play 25 more games that season and he was hampered with that injury throughout the rest of his time in Chicago thus was used mostly as a mentor to teach the young players many of whom weren't as good as he was.

Freddie as not only noted by me but was widely pulicized as being a lot better than Jeff Hornacek when he came out of Iowa State and Freddie even though being selected the 52nd pick in the 1995 draft was probably the best all around player in the draft that year. You may not know but he was selected the #1 pick in the CBA or whatever it was called in '95 and would have had to report if not for being signed by Indiana.

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