Dribble Dive offense

[kamaze]

With the addition of shooters like Bobby Simmons (good 3pt shooter), Yi, CDR, Jarvis Hayes, Brook Lopez and the other rookie the Nets will try a new offense.
It's going to be based off of penetrating and kicking it out.

And so, using a pepper shaker as the basket, white sugar packets as offensive players and pink Sweet'n Low packets as defenders, Walberg explained his quirky creation, a high-scoring scheme featuring four perimeter players and a host of innovations. Unlike Knight's classic motion offense (which is based on screens) or Pete Carril's Princeton-style offense (which is based on cuts), Walberg's attack was founded on dribble penetration. To Calipari, at least, it embodied two wholly unconventional notions. One, there were no screens, the better to create spacing for drives. Two, the post man ran to the weak side of the lane (instead of the ball side), leaving the ball handler an open driving path to the basket.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/w ... mphis0218/

This is a good offense for Harris to run bc of his speed...his passing not so much.
Also will this work for Vince who will draw double, sometimes triple teams from the defense?
We'll see.

[NetsForce]

It's going to be interesting to see how the Nets big men figure into all of this. I see how Ryan Anderson and Yi fit into the new scheme but Lopez not so much...

[kamaze]

I don't think the center has to be part of the pick and pop offense. Somebody has to get the rebounds right?

[Birth of the Cool]

It's going to be interesting to see how the Nets big men figure into all of this. I see how Ryan Anderson and Yi fit into the new scheme but Lopez not so much...

Well they say the 5 now positions himself on the weakside of the ball but still in the post area & I assume the other 3 players are corner, side & top (obv. depending where dribbler starts penetration but I assume side has least chance for more than one double if defense plays straight up). So when the ball handler dribbles to the rim (if the spacing is right) it will usually be the opposing 5 who has to be the help defender in this situation if the 1st defender gets beat. Lopez can just stay at the weakside either waiting for a dump off pass / positioning himself for weakside rebound / resetting if dribbler kicks out to perimeter.

Personally I think this crew would be better suited to a pick & roll offense. VC / Devin can breakdown guys and now we have bigs that can roll to the basket (Boone/SWat/Lopez) or pop out for the mid-range jumper (Anderson / Lopez / Hayes / Najera / Yi).

Sure Devin & VC can breakdown guys off the dribble but how consistently ? VC no longer has that explosive first step & beats guys off the dribble by his handles which sometimes can get flaky (when he plays around with it too much) and Devin I still don't trust his decision making when he roadrunners to the rim...this offense you will have to make quick decisions as to where the help is coming from and who is open. Also outside of Devin / VC who else on this roster can consistently beat their man on one-on-one situations and also we can expect to make the right plays once the defense reacts ?

Also how does a Memphis offense attack Zone defense. If a team tries to isolate my team like that and it works I would just switch to Zone to allow defenders a chance to clog the driving lanes and force the Nets to make long range jumpers.

Must admit I'm not familiar with this offense since the NBA game is all about pick & roll. Not big on CDR but you would assume this offense is favourable to him. I just think this roster is a pick & roll roster...we shall see. At least last year's "motion offense" was dumped since Nets players weren't much into the "motion" part of it....

[NetsForce]

That wasn't really my point, my point was that any semblance of a post game that those players develop will be going to waste, and Williams' + Boone's slashing abilities look like they will be underutilized.

I'm not against the system until I see it in action but I do have my questions about it.

[ecuhus1981]

I feel similarly to NetsForce. Brook is apparently VERY familiar with the offense, and Chris Douglas-Roberts was an All-American in the DDM. Anderson and Jianlian make practical sense as well, and I suppose that leaves the Dozier/Dorsey roles to Boone and Sean. Devin's strengths are harnessed and his weaknesses masked in such a system as well, and it should be alot more conducive to elite play from Carter than last year's Princeton-based schtick.

Frankly (pun intended), I don't know if our coach can pull it off. But we have the pieces, and it should be interesting.

[Birth of the Cool]

That wasn't really my point, my point was that any semblance of a post game that those players develop will be going to waste, and Williams' + Boone's slashing abilities look like they will be underutilized.

I'm not against the system until I see it in action but I do have my questions about it.

K..get where you're coming from now.

Outside of Lopez I don't know if there are any natural post players (VC I guess and Yi has tools to be dangerous in the post doing a face-up game ala Bosh) so maybe that's one of the reason Frank is trying to implement this system. Not clear about Memphis system but once people space out & ball handler drives do teammates rotate/move around the perimeter or can guys like Boone / SWat cut to the rim..?

I'm sure Frank will utilize Lopez post game if he shows he can be efficient in practice and no NBA team will avoid using various pick & roll / screen plays esp. since I think VC / Devin and even guys like CDR / Dooling , etc can really work off that with the bigs.

Hopefully it will work but still for me Pick & Roll is the bread and butter of NBA offensive schemes these days and it works on the playground / highschool & up...simple/complex as it needs to be & put's lots of pressure on defenses to make decision on the fly that can end up with them on a SWat poster...either way, can't wait !