Josh Childress report

sofoklis · Post #1 » by **sofoklis** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:15 pm

Childress and Lynn Greer watching woman basketball game. A lot of fans and especially women seems to love Josh :lol:

Childress at a club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uZwfHXdNAE

mattlanta · Post #2 » by **mattlanta** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:19 am

The video of Chillz at a club has already been posted here before. And why wouldn't women 'seem to love Josh'? He's the new million dollar man in that country.

evildallas · Post #3 » by **evildallas** » Mon Sep 1, 2008 1:01 am

Don't doubt the power of the fro!

JMillott · Post #4 » by **JMillott** » Mon Sep 1, 2008 1:47 pm

The Hawks are going to miss Josh Childress more then people can possibly imagine, his supreme efficentcy made up for Josh Smith being one of the most inefficent 2nd options in the NBA last season.

The Hawks had they kept him were in great shape as the development of Al Horford, Josh Smith and Marvin Williams combined with having an actual starting PG in Mike Bibby around from the start of the season would've made for a good 5-10 more wins for the Hawks assuming they stayed healthy.

Now they might still might see such an improvement but it would take a better then should be expected improvement from Horford and Williams.

I felt they could count on Horford to step up and average around 12-13 PPG, 10 RPG, 1 SPG, 1 BPG which is very solid considering he is still going to have to play out of position at center again. If and when he gets the chance to move to his natural PF spot I think he will develop into a 15-17 PPG, 10 RPG type but right now I see no chance for that move to happen this year. For the team to not feel the lose of Childress they need him to make the leap to around 14-15 PPG, 10-11 RPG unless Marvin makes a giant leap towards stardom.

I felt they could count on Marvin Williams to step up and average around 16-17 PPG, 6-7 RPG and 1 SPG now for them to see improvement from the team they need him to step up and become the second offensive option in front of Josh Smith. I think the kid is talented enough to make that leap but I felt he was more then a year away from making it into the range of 18-20 PPG, 6-7 RPG and getting his assists up in the 2+ range while not seeing a large increase in his turnovers.

I think the team needs to find a trade partner hopefully in the next year or so to find a quality center so that Al Horford can move to his natural PF position. I think the best chance for the team and the best possible trade partner would be the Lakers if Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum simply can't play together i've long felt that Al Horford would be ideal next to Pau Gasol.

I thought if the Grizzlies hadn't been screwed by the ping pong balls and been able to draft Al Horford in last years draft that they would've been basically done rebuilding.

JoshB914 · Post #5 » by **JoshB914** » Mon Sep 1, 2008 5:42 pm

Why would you trade for Gasol who is also not a true center?

JMillott · Post #6 » by **JMillott** » Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:56 pm

How is Pau Gasol not a center exactly? He has played almost his entire career at the position at a near allstar level. I agree he isn't a classic defensive enforcer at the position but that is the kind of thing that having Horford would make a non-issue.

conleyorbust · Post #7 » by **conleyorbust** » Tue Sep 2, 2008 2:56 pm

JMillott wrote:How is Pau Gasol not a center exactly? He has played almost his entire career at the position at a near allstar level. I agree he isn't a classic defensive enforcer at the position but that is the kind of thing that having Horford would make a non-issue.

Alright, so let me get this straight. Al Horford plays exclusively at C but you think he should be a PF whereas Gasol, who is significantly weaker than Horford (although taller) and has a much better away from the basket game, is a center because he has played there?

The rational for why Gasol is a center works for Al too; either they are both centers, neither is a center, or it is silly to try and define someone as a "true" center or power forward.

tbhawksfan · Post #8 » by **tbhawksfan** » Tue Sep 2, 2008 6:37 pm

The point is a Gasol/Horford front-court would rock.

LL Cool Scott · Post #9 » by **LL Cool Scott** » Thu Sep 4, 2008 6:35 pm

Half of me thinks Josh Childress is a genius for cashing in and living the good life in Europe. The other half of me thinks he's a total p*ssy and a coward who couldn't hack it in the NBA and had to go to Europe to make real money. I go back and forth between the two every time I think about him

conleyorbust · Post #10 » by **conleyorbust** » Thu Sep 4, 2008 7:25 pm

LL Cool Scott wrote:Half of me thinks Josh Childress is a genius for cashing in and living the good life in Europe. The other half of me thinks he's a total p*ssy and a coward who couldn't hack it in the NBA and had to go to Europe to make real money. I go back and forth between the two every time I think about him

Way I see it is Childress knows how good he is in the grand scheme of things, he knows his ceiling in the NBA. If he can make a LOT more money on the other side of the ocean, good for him. If he can walk into a stadium of people chanting HIS name instead of the other guys' on his team, he's allowed to want that.

Good for him.

killbuckner · Post #11 » by **killbuckner** » Fri Sep 5, 2008 3:32 pm

Seriously- you give me a big raise to go live in Greece for a few years and I take it in a heartbeat. People are acting like he has to play in Siberia. Its not like he was going to win a championship next season either

conleyorbust · Post #12 » by **conleyorbust** » Fri Sep 5, 2008 4:40 pm

killbuckner wrote:Seriously- you give me a big raise to go live in Greece for a few years and I take it in a heartbeat. People are acting like he has to play in Siberia. Its not like he was going to win a championship next season either

Indeed. You see a lot of attorneys leave law firms in their first couple years to become in house counsels but no one calls them pussies because they'd rather get a raise up front and have their weekends off than toil in anonymity for 7 years to have a 5% shot at being a partner.

Rational self interest baby, its supposed to be an assumption.

LL Cool Scott · Post #13 » by **LL Cool Scott** » Fri Sep 5, 2008 6:55 pm

Like I said, I see both sides of the argument. But ponder this my amigos, plenty of other ballers have gotten similar offers, and Childress is the only high-profile one to take the money and run. If it's such a no-brainer, why is he the only one to do it? Is it that the other ballers have too much pride? Or is it that they are all fools?

killbuckner · Post #14 » by **killbuckner** » Fri Sep 5, 2008 8:14 pm

I think he also wanted out of the Hawks organization pretty badly. If he were an UFA and could have left the Hawks I don't think he would have gone over.

conleyorbust · Post #15 » by **conleyorbust** » Fri Sep 5, 2008 10:18 pm

LL Cool Scott wrote:Like I said, I see both sides of the argument. But ponder this my amigos, plenty of other ballers have gotten similar offers, and Childress is the only high-profile one to take the money and run. If it's such a no-brainer, why is he the only one to do it? Is it that the other ballers have too much pride? Or is it that they are all fools?

I don't think plenty of other players have gotten offers similar to Chils'...

I'm pretty sure he has the largerst Euro-league contract ever (on a per year basis). I'm pretty sure his team's owners know they are going to lose money but don't care. I'm pretty sure that this is the lowest value the dollar has had since the emergence of Euro-league ball as a popular system of leagues.

sofoklis · Post #16 » by **sofoklis** » Sat Sep 6, 2008 7:34 pm

Olympiakos preparation to ''Karpenisi''

evildallas · Post #17 » by **evildallas** » Sun Sep 7, 2008 4:27 am

LL Cool Scott wrote:Like I said, I see both sides of the argument. But ponder this my amigos, plenty of other ballers have gotten similar offers, and Childress is the only high-profile one to take the money and run. If it's such a no-brainer, why is he the only one to do it? Is it that the other ballers have too much pride? Or is it that they are all fools?

It's hard to believe all the stories that get planted during negotiation time. I'm sure some players received offers.

The money made it an obvious choice for Childress, but the other factors were Woodson and the lineup situation. Childress wanted a chance to start. He felt he didn't get a fair shot in Atlanta. Even when Marvin got injured Woodson wouldn't start Childress. Childress brought this up in a radio interview after signing in Greece. A lot of people change jobs once they realize that they'll never get a chance to get ahead.

sofoklis · Post #18 » by **sofoklis** » Tue Sep 9, 2008 8:35 pm

graymule · Post #19 » by **graymule** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:31 pm

Horford is not a center.

Hawks need a center.

Gasol is a center.

Trade Horford for Gasol. Problem solved. We have a center.

This way Josh Smith continues to be a PF.

Would you REALLY want to do this? I wouldn't.

Horford may not be a "true" center, as some would describe them, but until someone better
comes along and takes the position away from him, he's a center, our center to be precise.

FCNATL85 · Post #20 » by **FCNATL85** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:57 am

Neither of them is a C.
One is 22 the other 32. No brainer, I stick with Horford. He may develop in a Karl malone type of player depending on how the roster shape up, especially at the SF position. We have 3 potential starters at SF, PF with Smoothe, marv, Al.
no surprise why Josh left...if we can lure a real C for smith or marv + Zaza, i would love the FC of Marv or Smith
Al
C