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Re: OT: Chalmers and Arthur in trouble 

Post#21 » by Horcy » Thu Sep 4, 2008 7:37 pm

Most of NBA players smoke cannabis, I don't think it's a terrible thing, everyone can chose his own life style. They're now on Odom's bandwagon! haha
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Re: OT: Chalmers and Arthur in trouble 

Post#22 » by RickB-Orlando » Thu Sep 4, 2008 9:11 pm

Horcy wrote:Most of NBA players smoke cannabis, I don't think it's a terrible thing, everyone can chose his own life style. They're now on Odom's bandwagon! haha


It shows a distinct lack of judgment and maturity for them to smoke during this event, and could be interpreted by front offices and team ownership as a problem. It doesn't matter if you support it or not, or if everyone is doing it or not (and I would argue that we don't know how many NBA players smoke pot, so your assumption is flawed) - it's a bad decision for the start of a career.

The comparison should be: You work your entire life to land your dream job, and at the first corporate retreat you party like a maniac in front of your boss, and your bosses boss. When you get fired on Monday (or even called into the boss' office to discuss your inappropriate behavior) would you really wonder why you lost the job? Was the hard partying worth it?

And I don't care if it was pot or too much beer, it's the lack of judgment that should be the most concerning.
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Re: OT: Chalmers and Arthur in trouble 

Post#23 » by EasternMagic » Fri Sep 5, 2008 1:10 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:Frustrates me when people take opportunities and blessings for granted. Hopefully CLee is nowhere near that hotel room. Plus, Beasely does look kind of high.

100% agreed, its baffles me. I think Lee is more thankful and humble he seems like he understands how blessed he is to have reached this level
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Re: OT: Chalmers and Arthur in trouble 

Post#24 » by EasternMagic » Fri Sep 5, 2008 1:16 am

theTHIEF wrote:it's all great and grand, but health effects are of no concern in this matter (for the most part)...there is really no need in arguing this aspect of the use...regardless of what it may or may not do to ones body, it is illegal, it is also against team policies and it violates rules set in place by the NBA...that totals up to at least 3 levels of violations...

The day it become legal, this will be of no issue, as the league could then care less...the teams may continue to stress to their players that the use of the drug is prohibited during the season, just like they try and do with alcohol...because let's get real here, an advocate for the drug or not, you surely know that it has the ability to effect judgment, coordination, focus and ability to compete on a professional level, effects may vary per case but each user will experience at least one aspect of the drug which can/will effect their play as an athlete which would explain why hardcore body freaks would never use it or any other drug.

in addition, as instant role models, these guys getting busted for the use/possession of an illegal substance feeds into the perpetual cycle of today's youth. Hey it's ok for me to smoke weed/buy weed/sell weed even though it's illegal, XYZ does it and he's a pro basketball player. Or, I can smoke this all I want and still get a crack a million dollars, and if I get caught breaking the law, hopefully I'm good enough that everyone will forget about it...

if having 6 pillows on your bed was against the law, I would feel the same way...it's silly yes, but it's against the law, so don't do it...period...if you do, you suffer the consequences...


also 100% agree, and theres not anything they can say to justify their actions, everything Thief said has truth to it. And for the record i have played on teams with kids that smoke pot and it is annoying. You can tell a difference in their play, in their attitude, and in their judgment. They not only hurt themselves but they bring down the team.
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Re: OT: Chalmers and Arthur in trouble 

Post#25 » by UCFknight84 » Fri Sep 5, 2008 5:57 am

if Obama is elected, him and his democratic house and senate will pass (D) Barney Franks legislature to decriminalize anyone carrying under 100g of marijuana, which is in the process of being sent to congress, should take a year or two

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Re: OT: Chalmers and Arthur in trouble 

Post#26 » by MitchellUK » Fri Sep 5, 2008 1:10 pm

Maybe Arthur and Chalmers need to see the school counsellor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-AfOhyn ... re=related
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Re: OT: Chalmers and Arthur in trouble 

Post#27 » by Devin 1L » Fri Sep 5, 2008 4:19 pm

Ha!

It gets better:

"I want kids not to make the mistake I made," Arthur said. "I want to try to teach them the right thing to do. If you follow the rules you won't be in the same position I'm in. I feel terrible. I should have never opened the door. If I wouldn't have done that, everything would have been cool. I knew the rules and I made a mistake.


Yeah, or maybe you just shouldn't have been in the room with marijuana and a bunch of girls, both of which violated the rules.

You should have never opened the door?! Man...
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Post#28 » by Potterman » Fri Sep 5, 2008 6:15 pm

To me it's just sad that they have so much potential in life and would want to run the risk of getting caught with these substances. Maybe they have too much money and power. Maybe the league should instill tighter punishment.

What's unfair about it is that they may loose one or two paychecks which may come out to over half my salary easily. While if I get caught doing this I'd lose my job, have to do community service, and potentially jail time.

The fact that they can be let off easy is the real crime.
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Post#29 » by theTHIEF » Fri Sep 5, 2008 6:19 pm

the funny thing is that he apologies and now wants to mentor to children about...bringing girls to your hotel room? that seems odd to me...I wouldn't volunteer to mentor to kids unless I had done something more severe, bringing girls to my room doesn't seem like the kind of thing kids need to be educated on...something tells me this is not the reason Mr. Arthur is doing this...
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Re: OT: Chalmers and Arthur in trouble 

Post#30 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri Sep 5, 2008 6:21 pm

Devin 1L wrote:Ha!

It gets better:

"I want kids not to make the mistake I made," Arthur said. "I want to try to teach them the right thing to do. If you follow the rules you won't be in the same position I'm in. I feel terrible. I should have never opened the door. If I wouldn't have done that, everything would have been cool. I knew the rules and I made a mistake.


Yeah, or maybe you just shouldn't have been in the room with marijuana and a bunch of girls, both of which violated the rules.

You should have never opened the door?! Man...


In the latest ESPN article they said that the smoke from the maryjane set off the fire alarm which alerted hotel staff who then proceeded to knock on the door. The players refused to open the door and supposedly security came in using those universal keys and caught them lol.
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Post#31 » by Potterman » Fri Sep 5, 2008 6:24 pm

theTHIEF wrote:the funny thing is that he apologies and now wants to mentor to children about...bringing girls to your hotel room? that seems odd to me...I wouldn't volunteer to mentor to kids unless I had done something more severe, bringing girls to my room doesn't seem like the kind of thing kids need to be educated on...something tells me this is not the reason Mr. Arthur is doing this...


I don't know have you talked to your local political party yet? Some would disagree and say that they need this. I would know cause I listen to public radio. :P

Seriously you are right. Somethings up. I smell other possible kinds of drugs in addition, or maybe a HUGE binge.
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Re: OT: Chalmers and Arthur in trouble 

Post#32 » by RickB-Orlando » Fri Sep 5, 2008 10:16 pm

prorl wrote:In the latest ESPN article they said that the smoke from the maryjane set off the fire alarm which alerted hotel staff who then proceeded to knock on the door. The players refused to open the door and supposedly security came in using those universal keys and caught them lol.


Gotta say, that was a LOT of smoking to set off the fire alarm. I don't think they were passing one roach around to get that alarm going.
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Post#33 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri Sep 5, 2008 10:20 pm

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prorl wrote:In the latest ESPN article they said that the smoke from the maryjane set off the fire alarm which alerted hotel staff who then proceeded to knock on the door. The players refused to open the door and supposedly security came in using those universal keys and caught them lol.


Gotta say, that was a LOT of smoking to set off the fire alarm. I don't think they were passing one roach around to get that alarm going.


They dont know how much because they caught one person flushing the evidence down the toilet lol.
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Post#34 » by Devin 1L » Fri Sep 5, 2008 10:56 pm

prorl wrote:
Devin 1L wrote:Ha!

It gets better:

"I want kids not to make the mistake I made," Arthur said. "I want to try to teach them the right thing to do. If you follow the rules you won't be in the same position I'm in. I feel terrible. I should have never opened the door. If I wouldn't have done that, everything would have been cool. I knew the rules and I made a mistake.


Yeah, or maybe you just shouldn't have been in the room with marijuana and a bunch of girls, both of which violated the rules.

You should have never opened the door?! Man...


In the latest ESPN article they said that the smoke from the maryjane set off the fire alarm which alerted hotel staff who then proceeded to knock on the door. The players refused to open the door and supposedly security came in using those universal keys and caught them lol.


So he's lying about even opening the door? They had to force their way in?
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Post#35 » by UCFknight84 » Mon Sep 8, 2008 1:05 am

Marijuana may be something of a wonder drug — though perhaps not in the way you might think.

Researchers in Italy and Britain have found that the main active ingredient in marijuana — tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC — and related compounds show promise as antibacterial agents, particularly against microbial strains that are already resistant to several classes of drugs.

It has been known for decades that Cannabis sativa has antibacterial properties. Experiments in the 1950s tested various marijuana preparations against skin and other infections, but researchers at the time had little understanding of marijuana's chemical makeup.

The current research, by Giovanni Appendino of the University of the Eastern Piedmont and colleagues and published in The Journal of Natural Products, looked at the antibacterial activity of the five most common cannabinoids. All were found effective against several common multi-resistant bacterial strains, although, perhaps understandably, the researchers suggested that the nonpsychotropic cannabinoids might prove more promising for eventual use.

The researchers say they don't know how the cannabinoids work, and whether they would be effective as systemic antibiotics would require much more research and trials. But the compounds may prove useful sooner as a topical agent against methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA, to prevent the microbes from colonizing on the skin.


pretty interesting

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/07/ ... obdrug.php
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Re: OT: Chalmers and Arthur in trouble 

Post#36 » by RickB-Orlando » Mon Sep 8, 2008 2:38 am

UCFknight84 wrote:
Marijuana may be something of a wonder drug — though perhaps not in the way you might think.

Researchers in Italy and Britain have found that the main active ingredient in marijuana — tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC — and related compounds show promise as antibacterial agents, particularly against microbial strains that are already resistant to several classes of drugs.

It has been known for decades that Cannabis sativa has antibacterial properties. Experiments in the 1950s tested various marijuana preparations against skin and other infections, but researchers at the time had little understanding of marijuana's chemical makeup.

The current research, by Giovanni Appendino of the University of the Eastern Piedmont and colleagues and published in The Journal of Natural Products, looked at the antibacterial activity of the five most common cannabinoids. All were found effective against several common multi-resistant bacterial strains, although, perhaps understandably, the researchers suggested that the nonpsychotropic cannabinoids might prove more promising for eventual use.

The researchers say they don't know how the cannabinoids work, and whether they would be effective as systemic antibiotics would require much more research and trials. But the compounds may prove useful sooner as a topical agent against methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA, to prevent the microbes from colonizing on the skin.


pretty interesting

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/07/ ... obdrug.php


This explains alot - which one of them was a Chemistry major?

Probably doing some innocent research and the women were there as test subjects for a round of antibacterial experiments, when security and the cops come bursting in. It's a good bet one or more of the women had a reason to be taking an antibiotic.
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Post#37 » by UCFknight84 » Mon Sep 8, 2008 2:53 am

is WebMD a more credible source for you?

Chemicals in Marijuana May Fight MRSA
Study Shows Cannabinoids May Be Useful Against Drug-Resistant Staph Infections

http://www.webmd.com/news/20080904/mari ... fight-mrsa
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Re: OT: Chalmers and Arthur in trouble 

Post#38 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Sep 9, 2008 3:05 pm

Devin 1L wrote:

So he's lying about even opening the door? They had to force their way in?


Thats what the article was implying. And the person in the bathroom doing the flushing had the door locked also.....

They didnt say who was that person in the bathroom......
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Post#39 » by theTHIEF » Tue Sep 9, 2008 3:15 pm

the epilogue...

Pot smokers: Pot is the best thing on the face of the earth, it's a cure all i got facts yo, it's natural and it should not be illegal man, you're all fascist.

Anti-pot smokers: Pot is a drug, it's against the law you should go to prison for smoking it.

People who don't care either way about pot: They broke the rules their employer has set in place specifically prohibiting the use of the substance and deserve to be punished.
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Re: OT: Chalmers and Arthur in trouble 

Post#40 » by magicmamma » Tue Sep 9, 2008 3:22 pm

theTHIEF wrote:the epilogue...

Pot smokers: Pot is the best thing on the face of the earth, it's a cure all i got facts yo, it's natural and it should not be illegal man, you're all fascist.

Anti-pot smokers: Pot is a drug, it's against the law you should go to prison for smoking it.

People who don't care either way about pot: They broke the rules their employer has set in place specifically prohibiting the use of the substance and deserve to be punished.


Well said!

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