What's our 2 for 1?

[Jammer]

Something tells me that Miles could actually make it thru camp, thru his 10 day suspension, and last long enough for his salary to be put back on Portland's cap.

We'd also might know if this any chance that Mourning decides to not to return to Miami by then.

I do believe buckner1976 point's about Miles ability to make the team, since I was the first to raise the flag about his ability to play small forward when he was healthy.

I think the thing to do is look at other team needs, if they have trade exceptions to just accept a player for picks or cash, and if they will have to pay lux tax on any players they get.

Pruitt: Chicago, Minnesota & Oklahoma City could use another point guard AND HAVE A TRADE EXCEPTION to accept Pruitt in exchange for a second round pick. None would have to pay lux tax.

Davis: As a minimum contract player, any team could accept him. Possibilities include lux tax payers Dallas, Denver & Phoenix; and maybe Chicago.

Scalabrine: No teams have trade exception the size of Scal's salary, need a PF, and are under the luxury tax. Denver is eliminated since they are into lux tax territory (why they just dumped Marcus Camby).

[buckner1976]

Something tells me that Miles could actually make it thru camp, thru his 10 day suspension, and last long enough for his salary to be put back on Portland's cap.

We'd also might know if this any chance that Mourning decides to not to return to Miami by then.

I do believe buckner1976 point's about Miles ability to make the team, since I was the first to raise the flag about his ability to play small forward when he was healthy.

I think the thing to do is look at other team needs, if they have trade exceptions to just accept a player for picks or cash, and if they will have to pay lux tax on any players they get.

Pruitt: Chicago, Minnesota & Oklahoma City could use another point guard AND HAVE A TRADE EXCEPTION to accept Pruitt in exchange for a second round pick. None would have to pay lux tax.

Davis: As a minimum contract player, any team could accept him. Possibilities include lux tax payers Dallas, Denver & Phoenix; and maybe Chicago.

Scalabrine: No teams have trade exception the size of Scal's salary, need a PF, and are under the luxury tax. Denver is eliminated since they are into lux tax territory (why they just dumped Marcus Camby).

Well there's a nice little piece about Miles in today's Globe with noted former Jordan trainer Tim Grover talking about where Miles is at right now among other things. I'm now inclined to think Miles has a better chance than not to make this team and at the very least be a 10th man. I don't think Scal get's moved for anything except someone else's scraps. So I bet he stays because his salary comes off in 2 years at the same time with Ray and he can contribute off the bench in a pinch in spot minutes still. With Erden possibly being an already built-in replacement for BBD next year and backup "combo" guard being the world's easiest position to replace on a basketball roster I'd say Davis and Pruitt are marked men now. If Danny can get the rights an overseas guy(whether that guy plans to ever come here or not) he doesn't have to claim right now that would probably be ideal(cash is never bad either).

[billfromBoston]

Wouldn't be surprised to see a trade for a veteran center or a player-for-pick exchange, but Cassell could just as easily not make the team and go directly to the coaching staff...either way, Eddie House has nothing to "get pissed" about. Cassell will be nothing more than a specialist, brought in to break full-court pressure IF the other PGs aren't getting it done--he is now at the stage in his career where he won't be getting rotation minutes...this move is to bring Cassell onto the staff, not to carve out some vital role for him...

Nobody knows how this will play out, but if I had a guess i'd say that Cassell just gets beat out for a spot on the roster and goes directly to the coaching staff-that's my prediction...either that, or Davis and Pruitt get traded to Miami for Zo and a 2nd rounder or something...

[GregB]

Scal and Baby for Zaza would be ok with me. It all depends on if Atlanta has any interest in Baby though.

[BigCelticket]

Is it possible to package Scal, Pruitt, and Baby to Philly for Reggie Evans? That would open up another roster spot too, but he might be too pricey for us. But Philly does need bodies.
Or maybe Scal and Baby with a 2nd rounder to Sacramento for Shelden Williams? Again, maybe a stretch.
I'm just throwing out some ideas I have had regarding this situation.

[Jammer]

Is it possible to package Scal, Pruitt, and Baby to Philly for Reggie Evans? That would open up another roster spot too, but he might be too pricey for us. But Philly does need bodies.
Or maybe Scal and Baby with a 2nd rounder to Sacramento for Shelden Williams? Again, maybe a stretch.
I'm just throwing out some ideas I have had regarding this situation.

Reggie Evans of Phili, a rebounding machine, has 3 years and $14.68 million remaining.

Scal has 2 years and $6.6 million remaining.

As much as the luxury tax paying Celtics hope to ship Scal somewhere,
they won't be taking Reggie Evans contract in exchange.

Reggie, is a power forward.

The Celtics would rather have a true center.

I suspect that they will continue to wait until a team with a trade exception might simply accept Scal for the rights to some player they drafted 10 years ago and that is currently playing in Europe or Israel. Sometimes you just need contracts to trade.

[Benjamerica]

Not reading this thread. . . . But. . . .

Scalabrine for the Flynt Tropics' Washing Machine . . . NOW, hahaha

[sully00]

I don't see a trade. NOBODY is trading for Scal unless they are unloading something worse or getting more value than we have to offer we don't even have an '09 draft pick. If Miles makes the team at the minimum then they should just cut Scal he isn't going to play.

I don't think any of the Celtics young players would command a 1st round draft pick (including Giddens) and all are worth more to this team than dumping them for a second round draft pick.

Boston doesn't really have a ton of needs they simply need to fill they simply need to trim their roster. Another option could be that Scal has a season ending vasectomy and goes on injured reserve opening up a roster spot.

[LongTimeFan]

http://www.82games.com/0708/07BOS10C.HTM

Powe has a +11 PER at PF. That's KG, Pierce type numbers.

I think you guys are nuts to think Powe isn't worth a first round pick in the teens. The guy is a starting quality PF already. He has trouble playing center, true.

But he is better than many starting PF right now. A jumper would be a huge upgrade on another team. It's not on ours because we already have so many other better options.

IMO he's worth at least a #15. We almost bought Rondo's pick at #21. (Cash and a future #24 which Pho sold for cash)

[sully00]

LTF

Beyond overvaluing Powe you are also doing what no GM can do and that is putting the number and value on a future pick. Obviously you can protect the pick but it also jams up other deals. Leon Powe isn't worth that headache. Carl Landry couldn't even get a contract offer because of his knee and he was actually a starting PF.

What team(s) would give up their '09 1st round pick for Leon Powe?

Anyway I had a thought on Darius, similar to the idea of bringing in Livingston. I wonder if Ainge is bringing him in now so that he can go through camp and learn the offense and defense and practice wth the team to then go back to CHI and continue to rehab till mid-season when contract structure is different for minimum contracts. Unlike Livingston this isn't about money for Miles.

[buckner1976]

http://www.82games.com/0708/07BOS10C.HTM

Powe has a +11 PER at PF. That's KG, Pierce type numbers.

I think you guys are nuts to think Powe isn't worth a first round pick in the teens. The guy is a starting quality PF already. He has trouble playing center, true.

But he is better than many starting PF right now. A jumper would be a huge upgrade on another team. It's not on ours because we already have so many other better options.

IMO he's worth at least a #15. We almost bought Rondo's pick at #21. (Cash and a future #24 which Pho sold for cash)

You are WAY overvaluing Powe. I don't care what his PER differential was. Bottomline: Powe wasn't even a consistent backup PF on last years team. He was certainly not the first guy off the bench and he is by no means a scoring or rebounding force. Powe had such trouble with his defensive rotations at times they'd rather bring Posey out to play the 4 first before subbing in Powe. Now this is not to say that I don't like Powe as a player but LTF you are in a delusional dream if you think a late 2nd rnd pick that is still trying to establish himself as a rotational player is gonna garner anyone's 1st rnd pick. Even moreso if you think BBD will fetch a late 1st rounder.

[billfromBoston]

http://www.82games.com/0708/07BOS10C.HTM

Powe has a +11 PER at PF. That's KG, Pierce type numbers.

I think you guys are nuts to think Powe isn't worth a first round pick in the teens. The guy is a starting quality PF already. He has trouble playing center, true.

But he is better than many starting PF right now. A jumper would be a huge upgrade on another team. It's not on ours because we already have so many other better options.

IMO he's worth at least a #15. We almost bought Rondo's pick at #21. (Cash and a future #24 which Pho sold for cash)

A 15th pick is sounding like a stretch, but I could see a pick in the 20's..it all depends on the draft of course as well as the team situation. Powe is a blossoming player, but he needs to do it for a full year before his value really solidifies and even then, he's looking at 20mpg tops in all likelihood, so he'd have to absolutely beast it.