Trading Swift for Zach Randolph

rag-time4 · Post #1 » by **rag-time4** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:55 am

Just wanted to see what kind of reaction this gets. The Knicks seem to be trying to move Randolph, and the Nets have a lack of post-up players, so this might be a good fit. For the Knicks, they would benefit by having an athletic shot blocker to complement Eddy Curry rather than fielding a big but unathletic duo of Curry and Randolph.

Post #2 » by **Rich Rane** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:50 am

No thanks. I'd rather let Swift rot on the bench in a suit all season and let him expire than trade him for three years of giving big money to Randolph. Not to mention he's one of the few players in the league who could say his near 20-10 stats aren't worth his contract.

I know you'd set up this trade just to find Swift a good place to play, but as a NETS-first fan, that's just how I feel.

Preludepunk27 · Post #3 » by **Preludepunk27** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:55 pm

Stro looks good in a suit. If we traded for Zach, we wouldn't have cap space in 2010 unless we moved Vince. I'd rather have Vince over Zach, therefore, Stro wears a suit on the end of our bench all season.

rag-time4 · Post #4 » by **rag-time4** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:46 am

Rich Rane wrote:No thanks. I'd rather let Swift rot on the bench in a suit all season and let him expire than trade him for three years of giving big money to Randolph. Not to mention he's one of the few players in the league who could say his near 20-10 stats aren't worth his contract.

I know you'd set up this trade just to find Swift a good place to play, but as a NETS-first fan, that's just how I feel.

Rich, I honestly think the trade could help both teams. I do agree with you though that Randolph is overpaid. He's not a good defensive player at all, but I think he would be a good complement to Sean Williams or Yi Jianlian, because Randolph can provide size and muscle in the paint as well as a post presence.

Playing Randolph and Curry together hasn't worked out because they don't complement each other well. They're both big, bulky players who don't have great mobility on defense and don't block a lot of shots. Swift would be a better complement to Curry.

I think the contracts would be the biggest issue, but Randolph gets paid more than Swift so the Nets may be able to get rid of some other contracts they don't want along with Swift, if Swift isn't gonna play.

And if the Nets stink this season, there isn't much chance that the 5 million from Swift's contract will be very useful in free agency because a really good player won't play for a bad team for mid-level money. Furthermore, Carter probably won't re-sign here if the team is still rebuilding when his contract is up.

Post #5 » by **Rich Rane** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:56 am

rag-time4 wrote:Rich, I honestly think the trade could help both teams. I do agree with you though that Randolph is overpaid. He's not a good defensive player at all, but I think he would be a good complement to Sean Williams or Yi Jianlian, because Randolph can provide size and muscle in the paint as well as a post presence.

Playing Randolph and Curry together hasn't worked out because they don't complement each other well. They're both big, bulky players who don't have great mobility on defense and don't block a lot of shots. Swift would be a better complement to Curry.

The problem with Randolph's game is he tries too much to be an out of the paint scorer going as far as even shooting the 3-ball. Yi has shown he could do that. There's no need for 2 of them. Randolph has also shown time and time again he needs the ball to be effective and with the amount of shots he takes, he's not very effective at all.

I think the contracts would be the biggest issue, but Randolph gets paid more than Swift so the Nets may be able to get rid of some other contracts they don't want along with Swift, if Swift isn't gonna play.

And if the Nets stink this season, there isn't much chance that the 5 million from Swift's contract will be very useful in free agency because a really good player won't play for a bad team for mid-level money. Furthermore, Carter probably won't re-sign here if the team is still rebuilding when his contract is up.

The goal is the 2010 offseason. It's been really obvious when we traded RJ for young talent and a guy whose contract expires that offseason along with Keyon's and Najera's two guaranteed years. We'll have no problem sucking this year if we get a high draft pick in 2009. In 2010, our young guys hopefully will be developed. We could terminate Carter that year if we wish and have plenty of money to spend. So really...it's not Swift's contract alone that's part of the plan, but a bunch of our expirings.

If we're going to trade Swift, it's pretty much going to be for picks and/or young talent. I doubt we trade him for another contract that expires this year or next year's.

Rockice_8 · Post #6 » by **Rockice_8** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:02 pm

No, No, No.

vincecarter4pres · Post #7 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:22 pm

Gross.

RMbChillen42 · Post #8 » by **RMbChillen42** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:27 am

How about the Knicks just give Randolph and 3 1st rounders for bag of poop and we call it a day?

S.I.C. GM · Post #9 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:19 pm

Hey Stro,

Good Try!!! Why dont you, Stro or Stro relative, tell Stro to f'n put some effort maybe he would get some playinjg time on this team. No reason why he doesnt get more PT then Boone.

For christ sakes, BOONE plays bettern the Stro. I am tired of staying this but Stro had more potential then all our big men. But get it through your mind, STRO or Ragtime whatever you want to call yourself, until he f'n wakes up HE, YOU OR WHATEVER will always be riding the bench.

Now back to the comedy, NO WAY IN HELL do we trade for Randolph. Might as well do a three way trade with the CAVS and KNICKS for LEBRON. Let NY figure how to shed that crappy contract on their own.

Have a nice Day!!!!

TheGrowth · Post #10 » by **TheGrowth** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:51 pm

Bad move. A team in rebuilding mode shouldnt be adding on more salary. Besides its time to give the Nets youngsters a chance to prove themselves.

BasketBrain · Post #11 » by **BasketBrain** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:23 pm

A team that's rebuilding shouldn't go after large contracts..That's just contradicting the whole "rebuilding" movement.

NetsForce · Post #12 » by **NetsForce** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:06 pm

No. If Zach Randolph was to ever play a game for the Nets I'd quit watching basketball.

And I quote myself from another thread:

Zach Cancerdolph's true shooting percentage last year of 51.3% was lower than the league average of 54.0%... He also posted 186 turnovers compared to 215 assists, steals, AND blocks combined... I don't know if I'd call that efficient...

To put things into perspective Zach Randolph had 16 total blocks last year... Jason Collins had 17 while playing 1072 minutes (THE EQUIVALENT OF PLAYING 22 FULL 48 GAMES) less than Zach Randolph

Preludepunk27 · Post #13 » by **Preludepunk27** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:20 pm

Your hatred for Zach is the same hatred I have when Mark Blount trades were surfacing around the draft. I seriously would become a full time Bobcats fan (I live in NC) if Mark Blount ever wore a Nets jersey for 1 second.