Bulls, Nuggets and Kings

ecuhus1981 · Post #1 » by **ecuhus1981** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:25 pm

***Inspired by dflaschberger***

Trade ID# 4772275

Chicago Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Kenyon Martin, John Salmons, Mikki Moore
Outgoing Players: Andres Nocioni, Kirk Hinrich, Larry Hughes
CHI shores up their frontcourt, and brings in veterans who complement Rose & Co.
Rose, Salmons, Deng, Martin, Moore
(Gordon), Sefolosha, Nichols, Thomas, Noah

Denver Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Andres Nocioni, Kirk Hinrich, Kenny Thomas, Brad Miller
Outgoing Players: Steven Hunter, Kenyon Martin, Allen Iverson
DEN moves AI for players who can better complement Melo and JR.
Hinrich, Smith, Anthony, Nene, Miller
Carter, Weems, Nocioni, Kleiza, Andersen

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Larry Hughes, Steven Hunter, Allen Iverson
Outgoing Players: John Salmons, Mikki Moore, Kenny Thomas, Brad Miller
SAC opens up PT for their frontcourt of the future (Hawes/Thompson/Greene), while adding an exciting pair of guards to add to their rotation.
Iverson, Martin, Garcia, Thompson, Hawes
Udrih, Hughes, Greene, Williams, Hunter

eslr · Post #2 » by **eslr** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:54 pm

Value wise its fine for the Nuggets but there is no way in hell they take on that much salary. Cap hell for years.

Post #3 » by **CellarDoor** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:02 pm

Bulls say no, i'm pretty sure we actually add salary in 2010 only to have another player blocking Tyrus' playing time. He's our second best prospect and I'm at the point where I either want him dealt or I want him playing a lot. You left Gooden off the depth chart, so we'd have five bigs in Martin, Gooden, Tyrus, and Noah in addition to more salary only to be paper thin at the PG position.

Post #4 » by **CellarDoor** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:03 pm

eslr wrote:Value wise its fine for the Nuggets but there is no way in hell they take on that much salary. Cap hell for years.

You do realize it's really only added salary next year and then one more year of about 15m after KMart would've expired, right? And you'd be getting a top notch defensive G and a nice supersub for that price.

oaf549 · Post #5 » by **oaf549** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:05 pm

eslr wrote:Value wise its fine for the Nuggets but there is no way in hell they take on that much salary. Cap hell for years.

And on top of that we have absolutely no need for another small forward.

Post #6 » by **CellarDoor** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:08 pm

oaf549 wrote:
eslr wrote:Value wise its fine for the Nuggets but there is no way in hell they take on that much salary. Cap hell for years.

And on top of that we have absolutely no need for another small forward.

That's actually a good point. Unless Kleiza is turned into an asset at a different position, that will probably be a sticking point.

Nutty Nats Fan · Post #7 » by **Nutty Nats Fan** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:21 pm

Andres Nocioni, Kirk Hinrich, Kenny Thomas, Brad Miller

Agree with what was said. Denver has no use for Noc. Send him off to a 4th team?

Like Hinirch. Wouldn't mind Miller at all. Thomas would be wasted money, but after the season he'd be an expiring at least. Unless trade checker is wrong.

Denver bigs after the trade: Miller, Nene, Birdman. Ouch.

If Noc could be sent to a 4th team, that could bring back another decent backup big for Denver, I'd be more for it. At the moment, that leaves them a bit thin at PF/C.

Post #8 » by **CellarDoor** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:22 pm

Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
Andres Nocioni, Kirk Hinrich, Kenny Thomas, Brad Miller

Agree with what was said. Denver has no use for Noc. Send him off to a 4th team?

Like Hinirch. Wouldn't mind Miller at all. Thomas would be wasted money, but after the season he'd be an expiring at least. Unless trade checker is wrong.

Denver bigs after the trade: Miller, Nene, Birdman. Ouch.

If Noc could be sent to a 4th team, that could bring back another decent backup big for Denver, I'd be more for it. At the moment, that leaves them a bit thin at PF/C.

Keep in mind Noc plays some 4 if you did keep him.

oaf549 · Post #9 » by **oaf549** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:31 pm

CellarDoor wrote:
Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
Andres Nocioni, Kirk Hinrich, Kenny Thomas, Brad Miller

Agree with what was said. Denver has no use for Noc. Send him off to a 4th team?

Like Hinirch. Wouldn't mind Miller at all. Thomas would be wasted money, but after the season he'd be an expiring at least. Unless trade checker is wrong.

Denver bigs after the trade: Miller, Nene, Birdman. Ouch.

If Noc could be sent to a 4th team, that could bring back another decent backup big for Denver, I'd be more for it. At the moment, that leaves them a bit thin at PF/C.

Keep in mind Noc plays some 4 if you did keep him.

So does Melo, Kleiza and Balkman. I just don't see how he's an effect use of the Nuggets money. Kmart can at least defend pf's and centers effectively. Miller and Hinrich would be nice but not with the added salary of Noc and Thomas.

Post #10 » by **CellarDoor** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:37 pm

^Like I said before it's all mute, Chicago declines, but I was referring to the list of denver bigs after the trade. Either Kleiza and Noc would both see time down there.

Jud's Buechlers · Post #11 » by **Jud's Buechlers** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:07 pm

No from the Bulls. Not enough interest in those guys to give up Noc and Kirk.

Nutty Nats Fan · Post #12 » by **Nutty Nats Fan** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:40 pm

CellarDoor wrote:^Like I said before it's all mute, Chicago declines, but I was referring to the list of denver bigs after the trade. Either Kleiza and Noc would both see time down there.

Yeah, I know Noc can, and LK and Melo, but would rather have at least another big with size.

Though true, it is a moot point.