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Post#1 » by ShaY » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:39 pm

Training camp is a week away and Landry is still unsigned , we don't even hear some negotation rumours , are you worried?

Do you think he will be signed before camp or not?
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Post#2 » by moofs » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:38 pm

No worries, be patient young grasshopper, and remember if we don't sign him, it's his agent's fault and we didn't want him as such anyway (because getting him by bending to his agent hurts us more than helps). Buddy's just gotta learn his place in the world, like a little kangaroo that tries to eat a lion!

I bet you Morey's had a here's-a-foot-up-ye-arse-fer-bein-such-a-infernal-prick contract sitting around in near-final form for months.
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Post#3 » by 2fast4u » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:49 pm

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Post#4 » by McGrady2Head » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:05 am

Im not worried at all. Frankly i dont even care, you ever heard of the term "starting to wear out your welcome." Hes a young rookie with knee problems. hes acting like a **** not getting it tested. nba owners dish out millions for basketball players, i dont think its that big of a deal to get that knee tested so les feels more comfortable in signing him. Landry not wanting to get it looked at only leads me to believe that the knee is not good
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Post#5 » by ShaY » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:08 am

McGrady2Head wrote:Im not worried at all. Frankly i dont even care, you ever heard of the term "starting to wear out your welcome." Hes a young rookie with knee problems. hes acting like a **** not getting it tested. nba owners dish out millions for basketball players, i dont think its that big of a deal to get that knee tested so les feels more comfortable in signing him. Landry not wanting to get it looked at only leads me to believe that the knee is not good


He is doing what his agent tells him to do , there is nothing wrong in trying to get the most money possible and get security for himself and his family for the rest of their lives.

We need Landry , if we don't have him we are weaker he is better than both Hayes and Dorsey.
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Post#6 » by moofs » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:42 am

ShaY wrote:He is doing what his agent tells him to do , there is nothing wrong in trying to get the most money possible and get security for himself and his family for the rest of their lives.

We need Landry , if we don't have him we are weaker he is better than both Hayes and Dorsey.


Heh, he is, and that is and should be his goal... to a degree, BUT - assuming this topic hasn't been beaten to death already (which it has) - when you're bargaining, you have to know just how many chips you have to play. Landry really doesn't have any. If we don't get him, we aren't broken, but now he IS hurting since he still can't play for anyone else in the NBA for a year. Everyone who looks at him after this will know that the main reason he wasn't signed was because he didn't want to publicly demonstrate that his knee is screwed up. If he goes overseas and gets injured, he'd better have gotten a good contract because it'll be that much harder to sign here after that. It doesn't feel like he really wants to go overseas though. Moreover, we are NOT going to overpay a player who is obviously going to be injury prone, it makes no sense for us over ANY timespan, yet that is his agent's goal. Too bad for him.

Again, be patient. While I expect him to sign right before it, don't be too surprised if he holds out into training camp or possibly even the season. It's no big deal and only hurts Landry in the long run, assuming he's going to be physically able to stay in the league anyway.

I didn't see any summer league games, so can't comment on that "better than Hayes and Dorsey" thing. Hayes is definitely better defensively and not as offensively inept as he gets blamed for (though I do like Landry better, it's not like he's VASTLY better at this point). We'll get by either way.
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Post#7 » by McGrady2Head » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:46 am

ShaY wrote:
McGrady2Head wrote:Im not worried at all. Frankly i dont even care, you ever heard of the term "starting to wear out your welcome." Hes a young rookie with knee problems. hes acting like a **** not getting it tested. nba owners dish out millions for basketball players, i dont think its that big of a deal to get that knee tested so les feels more comfortable in signing him. Landry not wanting to get it looked at only leads me to believe that the knee is not good


He is doing what his agent tells him to do , there is nothing wrong in trying to get the most money possible and get security for himself and his family for the rest of their lives.

We need Landry , if we don't have him we are weaker he is better than both Hayes and Dorsey.


all he has to do is get his knee tested by a doc and his family will have all the money they can handle. hes (Please Use More Appropriate Word) for not getting it tested and he may end up losing alot of money. other teams arent exactly knocking his door down right now
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Post#8 » by Iggyemu » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:14 am

I don't trust that knee. His whole game is based on athleticism. If he isn't signed..there is a good reason. I am pretty sure Morey knows what he is doing on this front.
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Post#9 » by TMACFORMVP » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:09 am

While I feel Landry will re-sign with us by the time it's done (I mean, then that'd be a complete waste of keeping our MLE in intact), it is a bit concerning that it's taking so long...I'd have expected re-signing him and come to an understanding between both sides would be a high priority, but doesnt really seem that way especially with the rumors of trying out other bigs..

I can understand what Landry feels too, a guy like Turiaf, who's a similar player now but with a lower ceiling got a pretty high pay day and that's what Landry expects to get, but with those knees and like Iggy said, a game highly based on his athleticism, we don''t want to pay him that much..

Considering there's no real impact FA out there (besides Gordon, who seems bent on a S&T) then it's probably a risk we'd have to take considering the impact he had on our team last season (who can forget that game-winning block with the teeth knocked out earlier in the playoffs?)
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Post#10 » by stussysupreme1 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:34 am

so say landry dosent sign when we start camp and even till dec he dosent sign with anyone...is he still an ufa? is there a deadline or something for this?
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Post#11 » by franchise73 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:14 am

Landry will be back. He said it on his myspace. http://www.myspace.com/carllandry14

IM COMING BACK!!! GO PICK UP THAT HOUSTON ROCKETS CARL LANDRY 14 JERSEY!!!



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Post#12 » by ShaY » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:22 am

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ShaY wrote:
McGrady2Head wrote:Im not worried at all. Frankly i dont even care, you ever heard of the term "starting to wear out your welcome." Hes a young rookie with knee problems. hes acting like a **** not getting it tested. nba owners dish out millions for basketball players, i dont think its that big of a deal to get that knee tested so les feels more comfortable in signing him. Landry not wanting to get it looked at only leads me to believe that the knee is not good


He is doing what his agent tells him to do , there is nothing wrong in trying to get the most money possible and get security for himself and his family for the rest of their lives.

We need Landry , if we don't have him we are weaker he is better than both Hayes and Dorsey.


all he has to do is get his knee tested by a doc and his family will have all the money they can handle. hes (Please Use More Appropriate Word) for not getting it tested and he may end up losing alot of money. other teams arent exactly knocking his door down right now


Agree both with you and moofs.
And I too don't understand why he doewsn't get the knee tested , maybe it's messed up, maybe his agent tells him not to.
But he is got to do what he is got to do , and Morey the same thing and thats what they are doing.
Morey has all the leverage so he won't pay more than he wants.
And Landry and his agent trying to get the most money possible , if they ask too much and will be left with nothing it's their problem.

I think something will get done before the season , I will be stupid of Landry to not go through training camp and start the season.

I think he will take just a one year offer maybe with another year player option and try get paid next year.
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Post#13 » by Painting_Shade » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:07 pm

franchise73 wrote:Landry will be back. He said it on his myspace. http://www.myspace.com/carllandry14

IM COMING BACK!!! GO PICK UP THAT HOUSTON ROCKETS CARL LANDRY 14 JERSEY!!!



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that's a fanspace. it's not his personal page.

I feel bad saying it, but we dont' need him. it's better that we pretend he never happened.

we'll be small, but hopefully dorsey can fill that role.
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Post#14 » by franchise73 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:42 pm

Painting_Shade wrote:
franchise73 wrote:Landry will be back. He said it on his myspace. http://www.myspace.com/carllandry14

IM COMING BACK!!! GO PICK UP THAT HOUSTON ROCKETS CARL LANDRY 14 JERSEY!!!



:)


that's a fanspace. it's not his personal page.

I feel bad saying it, but we dont' need him. it's better that we pretend he never happened.

we'll be small, but hopefully dorsey can fill that role.


but the comment and the pictures seem real :(

o well hopefully he will be back by preseason!!
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Post#15 » by MaxRider » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:59 pm

ShaY wrote:Training camp is a week away and Landry is still unsigned , we don't even hear some negotation rumours , are you worried?

Do you think he will be signed before camp or not?

Last year he didn't signed until 2 days (or is it 1?) before training camp. Let see if he can beat that this year.
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Post#16 » by moofs » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:14 pm

Buddy Baker was a prick then, too? Nooooo waaaaaaay......

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Post#17 » by PocketRockets » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:10 pm

No MRI (or whatever knee test Morey wants) = No Contract
No Contract = No Money and definitely no real jackpot in the near future b/c I think there are less than a handful of teams that want him in the league. He's dumb if he doesn't want to take the test. And I don't like too much dumb players on this team. We already have rafer for crying out loud.
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Post#18 » by tisbee » Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:03 am

Dorsey looks ike he can actually defend PFs,which Landry had a hard time doing. Don't forget Landry got run off the court by Utah's BACKUP PF as the series went on. And if Doresy can convert the open looks he'll get,well,Carl would have a hard time getting major minutes.
Please correct me if I'm wrong,but I thought I read Carl got the MRI and the Rockets wanted him to get the knee scoped and Landry has so far refused. Recovery time is several weeks so the closer to camp he gets it done the more time he will miss.

Morey has an interview up on Rockets.com and it was very interesting. Discussing the PG situation he only mentioned Rafer,Brooks and Barry and said another PG coud make the team depending on whether or not they sign Landry. I rather hope they do sign Armstrong as he can teach Brooks how to draw charges,play D in general and how to use his speed.
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Post#19 » by Transistor » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:07 am

From the Q&A w/ Morey rockets.com

JCF: Well, the first question is pretty obvious: What's the latest on the unsigned guys like Joey Dorsey and Carl Landry?

DM: Joey is close to signing. By the end of the week, we should have that finished. We're looking forward to having him join. It will likely be a long-term deal that keeps him here for a good stretch.

With Carl, we have a fair offer out there and we're hoping he takes it.


Damn it Landry, forget your agent and lets get this going!!
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Post#20 » by moofs » Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:28 pm

tisbee wrote:Please correct me if I'm wrong,but I thought I read Carl got the MRI and the Rockets wanted him to get the knee scoped and Landry has so far refused. Recovery time is several weeks so the closer to camp he gets it done the more time he will miss.

Morey has an interview up on Rockets.com and it was very interesting. Discussing the PG situation he only mentioned Rafer,Brooks and Barry and said another PG coud make the team depending on whether or not they sign Landry. I rather hope they do sign Armstrong as he can teach Brooks how to draw charges,play D in general and how to use his speed.


I think it was a scope they were wanting, but not a "surgical" scope where they remove particles and such. Seems like they were wanting a um, some sort of investigative scope or something, which I'd never heard of before.

I'm shocked he didn't mention Francis! :rolleyes:
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