Is Danny Ferry A good GM?

[Super Bad]

If you look at Danny Ferry's results they have been pretty good. Right now we are a top 5 team, we went to the finals two years ago. But If you look at his signings they have not produced:

Larry Hughes
Donyell Marshall
Damon Jones
David Wesley

At the same time who else would/could he have signed?

Thoughts????

[prekazi]

Signing Larry Hughes was a huge mistake, I mean it's unforgivable because Cavs have basically paid 14m per year to a %39 injury prone. We can easily argue that it costed us a championship. Who could've we signed instead? Joe Johnson

But since last year he's fine. He made some good moves like the blockbuster trade with the Bulls, resigning Delonte, addition of Mo Williams. He's doing better.

[INKtastic]

Signing Larry Hughes was a huge mistake, I mean it's unforgivable because Cavs have basically paid 14m per year to a %39 injury prone. We can easily argue that it costed us a championship. Who could've we signed instead? Joe Johnson

No we couldn't. Johnson cost the hawks Diaw + two first round draft picks. Thanks to Paxson, Ferry arrived with no first round draft picks to even offer.

[chrbal]

Hes decent. Better at trades then seemingly everything else. I'd say hes middle of the pack.

Hughes and Marshall helped get Wally World, Ben Wallace, Joe Smith, and Delonte West. Damon Jones and Smith got Maurice Williams.

So it sucks that he signed some of the guys he did, but he generally fixes his mistakes. That alone is a lot some times. Best example of the other is Isiah, who constantly added on to his mistakes.

[Scoot McGroot]

I'd put him generally in the same category as Chris Mullin. Each had a rocky start with some questionable signings, but they both seemed to learn from their mistakes and correct them pretty well. The Hughes deal was pretty solid, gaining them solid rotational players and the pieces to get Mo Williams (though I do think that trading away Joe Smith will come back to hurt the Cav's a bit at times). Kinda similar to how Mullin turned the bad signings of Dunleavy and Murphy into the effective rotational players of Harrington and Jackson that helped push GS into the playoffs for a season.

[eyejayem]

I think the Larry Hughes situation is on everybody who loves the Cavs. Hughes wasnt our 1st pick for us or Ferry. We Had Lebron and Z. Snow was the PG. We all felt we needed a wing next to Lebron and we needed scoring from our backcourt since Snow was starting(Damon Jones was not signed yet). We felt we needed that wing more than replacing Boozer since we had Z.

Ferry went after Joe Johnson, Michael Redd, amd Ray Allen before we even started mentioning Larry Hughes. He was the best of what was left and he signed them outside of what Washington would pay him. So its not a matter of 'who could we have signed?', it was if we didnt sign Hughes who would we have signed then?


Jones came in and still shot a high percentage from 3 which is what he was supposed to do but he cost too much to do it because he couldnt run PG. Marshall was already on the decline. David Wesley was a good signing. His contract was not guarunteed.

Oh so Ferry I would definately rank him 5-10. I think that high just because he is not just repairing his mistakes but Paxson's hugh blunders(1st rd picks) and repairing the image of the entire Cavs organization from team to front office. And pretty much only having Lebron and Z to build around.

[Benedict_Boozer]

Ferry is improving. He overpaid his 1st summer for FA's but ever since, he has been a tough negotiator and got great value in contracts. He also has shown a good eye for the big picture picking up expiring contracts and positioning the team to have cap space in 2010 if needed.

I would also say Ferry has proven to make good trades. He doesn't make moves unless we are getting clear upgrades. He is pretty good in the draft, landing Hickson and Boobie so far - I like Darnell Jackson too. Shannon Brown was a bust but I was fine with that pick at the time.

Considering the hole he had to get out of with Paxson dealing all of our picks, he has done a solid job. I'd give him about a B right now. If he can turn Wally's expiring into a quality SG or big man I'd give him an even higher grade.

[Ewingfan]

Why didnt Ferry go after Camby. Clippers got him for a second rounder. Did Danny know Camby was even avaiable.

[LeQuitterNotMVP]

Why didnt Ferry go after Camby. Clippers got him for a second rounder. Did Danny know Camby was even avaiable.

The Nuggets wanted instant salary relief. All we have are expring contracts, which wouldn't have given the Nuggets salary relief THIS YEAR.

[Buckeye-NBAFan]

But since last year he's fine. He made some good moves like the blockbuster trade with the Bulls, resigning Delonte, addition of Mo Williams. He's doing better.

The Bulls trade was a sideways move. I think the Mo Williams trade was a decent move for what the Cavs had to offer.

Other than that, all he's done is resign players. No amazing draft pick (1 role player from 1 1st rounder and multiple 2nd rounders), although he hasn't had enough draft picks to warrant much more than an incomplete on that front.

And he made a mess with the 2005 free agent signings. Even Steve Blake would've been a better signing than Damon Jones, and he signed for 2 years, $2.3M, while Damon made twice that per year. And Marshall was over the hill.

In hindsight they should have tried to offer Ray Allen the max (he signed for less in Seattle), or offered Varejao + Sasha + 1st rounder for Joe Johnson. If Johnson said he wanted to go to CLE over ATL, the Suns would've made a deal.

[Kosar86]

If you look at Danny Ferry's results they have been pretty good. Right now we are a top 5 team, we went to the finals two years ago. But If you look at his signings they have not produced:

Larry Hughes
Donyell Marshall
Damon Jones
David Wesley

At the same time who else would/could he have signed?

Thoughts????

I cant really fault him on hughes, he just came off a 22ppg season and was 1st team all-defense i think, the only other guy to sign was simmons who sucks.

What i wished he had done is not sign DJones and Marshall and use that 8-9 mil in cap space more towards the trade deadline, maybe taking a good player off a team looking to rebuild.

[Alice]

ferry sucks only slightly less as a GM than as an NBA player.

[TheOUTLAW]

Allen didn't sign for less than the max, he signed for the max. It was clearly more than the Cavs could have offered. In fact, Allen and Redd had no intention of leaving their teams, they wanted to stay with their teams because they could offer more money