Picks You didn't like (Top 3)

[deep throat]

James Jones- Not even a close 2nd. The Raiders certainly would have taken the third over the 4 they got. I'm not sure he will even make the team. Nothing special about him, his best quality is he might have a little RObert Ferguson in him (strength). He is not big/fast. He played WAC competition. He was not even 1st team in his conference. To top it off he has problems learning the playbook.

Aaron Rouse-I got excited when I first saw the #'s a while ago. Then I watched him play-and it's a lot like one site said "looks like Tarzan plays like Jane". I can tell you now he is not going to succeed at safety. this guy is as stiff as a board. he has straight line speed, but that's it. It's possible he could have more success as a OLB, but they sound determined to play him at SS. I noticed in the JS a lot of Scouts feel the same way.

Korey Hall-Trying to turn him into a FB, why not just use a pick on a FB earlier? Why didn't Ted just pay Griffith. Weird pick. Pretty sure he wont make the team. I feel this will be a waisted pick.

[BuckPack]

While not necessarily picks that I didn't like, here are my unfavorable reactions:

1) Not trading for Randy Moss. I mentionedthis in the Moss thread, but I truly believe he'll ahve a huge year next year, and return to being the playmaker of old. The fact that he was acquired with only a #4 makes it only worse. While Randy undoubtedly preferred the Pats (and ultimately, with both teams probably offering the same compensation, the Raiders sent Moss to the Pats), if the PAckers had sweetened their offer (perhaps with the addition of a 2008 conditional pick as high as a #3), I really believe we could have gotten Randy. Coupled with a top 10 D, I really think our offense could have carried this team to a playoff appearance. Now, I'm not so sure...

2) Letting Minnesota trade up in front of us to select Syndey Rice in Round 2 (and allowing Dwayne Jarret to go as well), just two picks in front of us. If the Packers were not going to get Randy (or put forth enough of an effort to guarantee they'd land him), they should have made an effort to grab the falling Rice and Jarrett. either one of these players would have been big time value picks in round 2, and the fact that we could have moved up for something as little as a 4th or 5th round pick, makes the Packers lack of action EXTREMELY disappointing.

3) As for poor picks, Jones is about as bad as you can do in Round 3, particularly when I would have MUCH rather tried to grab Rice or Jarret in round 2 or Moss with a 4th. Jones may become a solid 3 or 4 receiver, but this team lacks a talent that could become a top flight WR. We do not need another "solid" #2 or below receiver. That's what we got in Jones, who has nowhere near the ceiling of Jarrett/Rice/Moss

4) Rouse was a solid value pick, but as you said above DT, I think he'll make more of an impact on special teams than in our secondary. so while I don't see him as a "bad" pick, I don't think he'll be a starter. I don't see him starting over Underwood next season. I've watched him plenty, and his collegiate performance was very underwhelming. He's OK. Could boom, or he could be just a special teamer.

[ReasonablySober]

People are pissed with Jones because they don't know anything about him. Simple as that. Only a few knew about Greg Jennings last season and he's turned out alright.

I'm not upset with any picks. Thompson has earned himself the benefit of the doubt in my book. If he fails, he fails. But he was given a 3rd round grade by a guy who's managed to stockpile a lot of young talent in this organization. I'm going to wait a while before making any determination on the picks. My knee jerk reaction to this draft is very favorable. He didn't go after a lot of guys I would have liked, but he's a professional and I'm not.

[BuckPack]

People are pissed with Jones because they don't know anything about him. Simple as that. Only a few knew about Greg Jennings last season and he's turned out alright.

I'm not upset with any picks. Thompson has earned himself the benefit of the doubt in my book. If he fails, he fails. But he was given a 3rd round grade by a guy who's managed to stockpile a lot of young talent in this organization. I'm going to wait a while before making any determination on the picks. My knee jerk reaction to this draft is very favorable. He didn't go after a lot of guys I would have liked, but he's a professional and I'm not.

DB, I wholeheartedly agree...I'm very hesitant to drill a guy that knows SOO much more than I do. I agree with that statement entirely. However, I consider myself a knowledgable fan, and in looking at their roster, I just don't see enough playmakers on offense. Maybe Jones will develop into something solid but, of all of our selections, he was my least favorite. Yes, it's just a knee jerk reaction and yes I know very little about him, but from what I've read, he's nowhere near the talent that we could have gotten with a move for Rice/Jarret/Moss (all of which, would not have cost the Packers much). That's the key point to me. I felt he sat on his hands too much at the WR position, and whil ehe may have added a solid player in jones, I don't think he's near the player of the other three.

again, this is incredibly early, and while I have never seen Jones play, I will be surprised if he ends up to have a superior career than Rice, Jarrett or moss (from this day forward with the latter).

[El Duderino]

On the surface the Jones pick looks the most shaky and likely to be a first day bust,but i've seen to many shaky picks turn out fine and sexy picks bust to make any defenitive comment.

The Hall/Bishop picks i wasn't a fan of,but it was the 6th round and maybe one of the two can become a solid special teams/depth option.

[wichmae]

People are pissed with Jones because they don't know anything about him. Simple as that. Only a few knew about Greg Jennings last season and he's turned out alright.

I'm not upset with any picks. Thompson has earned himself the benefit of the doubt in my book. If he fails, he fails. But he was given a 3rd round grade by a guy who's managed to stockpile a lot of young talent in this organization. I'm going to wait a while before making any determination on the picks. My knee jerk reaction to this draft is very favorable. He didn't go after a lot of guys I would have liked, but he's a professional and I'm not.

I cannot believe I have agreed with you so much lately. The Jones pick was risky but everyone had him peged as a sleeper. He isnt fast but is a very sure handed possesion reciever. WHo is a freak in the strength department. Super gym rat with a good head on his shoulders and a rough upbringin. Guys got a chip on his shoulder and is really committed to being a good player. I think all of the picks this year have really good shots at being productive at some level this season. Wynn and Rouse are the biggest boom or bust picks we had the rest of the guys are really quality talents. Clowney has me really really excited.

[craig]

Thompson and these guys have presumably invested a lot of time thinking about some of these first-day picks. More so probably than any of the draft sites, who have a zillion guys they are trying to deal with. That Jones had the worst Wonderlic score is a concern. But, the prospect of a strong slot receiver who could be a good possession receiver and have some moves, if he works to what he's supposed to be, I'd have no problem with that. So, we'll see.

TT has some hits. And, he's had some misses. The 4th round kick-returner last year, for example. His times seemed too slow, but they said he played faster, etc.. You got him, and he had the gun problems, he couldn't catch anything, and he really was too slow. Oops! So, it's not like TT is infallible, either. We'll see.

One other thought is after stocking up on lots of developmental guys in the last couple of drafts, the roster isn't nearly so empty as it's been. Finding roster space for some of these developmental late-round projects is going to be harder.

Some of these late-round or Special Teams prospects are going to either lose out or beat out projects from last year. Can't everybody make it.

[wichmae]

Yahoo sports has a ton of vids on players...

Check out James Jones' vid.

[horaceworthy]

2) Letting Minnesota trade up in front of us to select Syndey Rice in Round 2 (and allowing Dwayne Jarret to go as well), just two picks in front of us. If the Packers were not going to get Randy (or put forth enough of an effort to guarantee they'd land him), they should have made an effort to grab the falling Rice and Jarrett. either one of these players would have been big time value picks in round 2, and the fact that we could have moved up for something as little as a 4th or 5th round pick, makes the Packers lack of action EXTREMELY disappointing.

Sorry to nitpick (and troll), but Minnesota actually traded down to select Rice. We had #41, then Atlanta gave us #44 and a 4th rounder so that they could move up and select Chris Houston. Then with #44 we selected Rice.

I feel some sympathy for you guys. This year most of the guys we picked were all fairly well known and well liked by the mainstream publications, but our draft last year was full of lesser known reaches, like Thompson's drafts seem to be. They were hit and miss, and some are still unknowns, but I remember how frustrating it was at the time.

[wichmae]

I trust TT and really dont se any huge reaches. I think Jones was gone before we would have picked in next round and am really warming up to the pick. Shanahan said they were looking really hard at Harrell and he was the reasoon why they were trading up to 17. Insteadthey took Moss. Either way I am very very happy with the draft...

[Neusch23]

I will let you know by the Bye week.

[BuckPack]

I like the draft, but I'm not very happy or ecstatic, particularly since other NFC north rivals, minnesota and Detroit, had VERY solid drafts. In fact, IMO, Minnesota had the best draft in the NFL, getting the best RB, and talent wise, top 15 WR (Rice) and CB (McCaulley...based on junior year). They filled some key holes and added some big time offensive firepower. We did not. We upgraded the D, but I don't see our offense moving forward next year, unless our o line becomes dominant.

I won't grade the draft the day after it finished (I think that's ridiculous), but I will say overall, I'm pleased, but certainly not overly satisfied.

[Ill-yasova]

People are pissed with Jones because they don't know anything about him. Simple as that. Only a few knew about Greg Jennings last season and he's turned out alright.

I'm not upset with any picks. Thompson has earned himself the benefit of the doubt in my book. If he fails, he fails. But he was given a 3rd round grade by a guy who's managed to stockpile a lot of young talent in this organization. I'm going to wait a while before making any determination on the picks. My knee jerk reaction to this draft is very favorable. He didn't go after a lot of guys I would have liked, but he's a professional and I'm not.

Jennings had glowing revues from every website I looked at last year. They s said Jennings was a fantastic route runner with great run after catch ability.
has adequate quickness and runs adequate short-to-intermediate routes. Shows adequate awareness, reads defenses fairly well and can settle into soft spots when sees zone coverage.
That is not an encouraging review.

[Ayt]

Who cares what websites think? If he bombs in camp, so be it. If not, so be it. Arguing about it now can be fun, but taking opinions too seriously at this point is foolish.

[MajorDad]

since we're nitpicking - saying you're not nit picking is actually a form of nitpicking.

jennings was not an unknown last year. just because we as fans didn't know much about him didn't mean the NFL analysists didn't know anything about him. he was projected to be drafted in the second round last year by almost everybody. and we drafted him in the second round.

the three worst picks were the first three picks. What happened TT? Buffalo selects your RB, and you decide to punt ? and throw the entire draft plan out the window? did somebody else take charge of the packers' draft room on the second day? the second day picks were better than the first day picks.

A lot of people have come forward and praised TT's last draft class and say they have faith in TT. Why? because a lot of his picks started? We should have gone 4-12 last season. but we won 4 meaningless games at the end of last season. We could have drafted peterson, but decided to win against the lions and vikings. and we all know the Bears could have cared less that last game of the year.

What i really hate about TT's picks, is not the players he picked, but rather the rounds he picked them in and the people that were still on the board he could have picked. I get kind of tired of opening up my draft day special and finding the names of packers picks in the additional players at this position paragraphs.

the fact TT waited until the third round and drafted a ? receiver and passed on several quality ones available in the first and second round, and the recent articles make me believe TT is going to give fergy one last try, and that makes me puke. I can't believe he passed on all those wr's in the frst and second rounds. it was if he thought he had a done deal for moss, and it fell through after the second round, and Tt was left holding the broken bag and trying to pick up the pieces..

I said last year all you needed was mel kiper's draft book, and even a guy like me could draft just as well as TT did. it didn't take an NFL scientist to pick hawk. I will repeat that statement after seeing this year's draft.

I leave you with this thought. A lot of people think TT's draft class last year was a great one because so many rookies ended up starting - especially on the o-line. Just because a rookie ended up starting on the o-line last year doesn't mean they were a great draft pick. it just means they were a lot better than our existing players at that position.

[Ayt]

Good ol' Major "Tony Moll is a wasted pick, nothing but camp fodder" Dad.

I said last year all you needed was mel kiper's draft book, and even a guy like me could draft just as well as TT did. it didn't take an NFL scientist to pick hawk. I will repeat that statement after seeing this year's draft.

You are delusional.

[MajorDad]

ayt- even a caveman could have had a better draft than TT !!

[wichmae]

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Jennings had glowing revues from every website I looked at last year. They s said Jennings was a fantastic route runner with great run after catch ability.
has adequate quickness and runs adequate short-to-intermediate routes. Shows adequate awareness, reads defenses fairly well and can settle into soft spots when sees zone coverage.
That is not an encouraging review.

all I gotta say is watch him on some video and maybe you will change your mind a bit.

For all the bash the guy got for running slow. Dwayne Bowe who was a 1st rounder ran 3 hundreths faster and granted you could arugue hes bigger (a whole 2inches) he still went first round. Very similar recievers...
Sidney Rice was actually slower but is a little bigger...

So for all the s**t this guy is getting we need to put some things into perspective. Watch the film man. He is just so damn physical and strong I am warming quickly to him..

[wichmae]

and I love how much credit Kiper gets. If he honestly was such a draft genius he would be making millions employed by a team. Its the media and sometimes the sexy pick always isnt the best pick. Granted Sid Rice, Steveie Smith and Steve Breaston were bigger names. I am very very happy with who we finished with..

The only issue I have is someway I would have found a way to take Mike Bush.

[James1980]

Ted has a different view on players than all the other teams, scouts, and draft experts. Either he is a genius or an idiot. Harrell seems like a good player when healthy, but he was expected to go at the end of the first round. Many of the other picks were picked a round earlier than predicted. I don't feel our needs were addressed either. Hopefully, some of these players have an impact and I am proven wrong.