Barclays Center/Fear Prokhorov Thread

[jerseyjac]

If Ratner can't get his act together in Brooklyn, watch the business man side of him start to look at other cities without an NBA franchise that the Nets would have all to themselves. With the Knicks here in NYC the Nets are always #2 even when they are the better team. Cities like San Diego, St. Louis, Seattle, Kansas City, Cincinatti, Baltimore, Jacksonville, Austin, Pittsburgh, Tampa or wherever there is no other team would love to have an NBA team.

maybe I'm misuderstanding your theory, though I do agree, Ratner trying to move the Nets out of state (NY/NJ) is always a possibility if Brooklyn falls through...

However, The Prudential Center is an easy out for him, regardless if he's looking to make money other ways...as much as its a fact that the Nets had a lack of support at the Meadowlands in the stands...the Nets have never had a chance to play at an arena within a city...If you dont know or have never been to where the Prudential Center is geographically in Newark...Its really ideal compared to the Meadowlands...with off the street ticket sales, easy and accessable mass transportation walking distance away (as the Garden has) and overall better seating for view of a game...The Rock is a frontrunner for plan B if Brooklyn falls through...add the fact that Newark is a basketball city and its safe to assume your ticket sales will go up...

[Preludepunk27]

I personally love the Rock. Been there twice and think it'd be a solid place for us. With that said, I really CAN'T see them moving. A lot of the owners are local guys. It's not like Ratner is from Idaho and never planned on keeping them here. Hell when he was forming the investment group to buy the Nets, the main selling point was to bring the Nets to the big city basically. I think it's NY or NJ or nothing in my opinion. If the deal is dead, I could see Ratner possibly selling the team, but moving to, say Seattle, is totally out of the question in my opinion unless he plans on buying out a LOT of part owner's shares.

[Jersey Generals]

I wish Corzine had gotten the team; the Nets would already be in the Rock.

[GnarlsOakley]

Atlantic Yards should be decreased in size by about 80%, so that it is only the stadium. The high-rises and all that bull are ugly and will destroy that community. Stadiums in cities are awesome, just look at what the MCI/Verizon Center has done for that area of D.C. Abe Pollin only built a stadium, and the development followed. What Ratner is doing is gentrifying the city in the worst way.

[Preludepunk27]

I actually love most of the designs and changes they've made to the model...but it looks COMPLETELY out of place in brooklyn. It'll look out of place for a LONG time if it ever gets done too no matter how cool I think it looks.

[Stone]

I always thought the price tag was too high for this arena to be profitable. From what I've read anything over 500 million is too much to spend and this project is almost double that. And thats only if all goes as planned. I've seen projects go way over origanal estimates.

I still won't rush to say it's done. It does not look promising at this point but that can change. Bloomberg want to see it go through and he's the type of guy that can get things done. My guess is it will be put off for a long while beyond 2011. They will buy time and keep us all in limbo.

Personally I would like to see us go to Newark. But above all no matter were we end up I just want to see us keep the name the "Net's".

[Preludepunk27]

Yeah I think management has already stated a few times the Net's name stays regardless of where they go. I actually don't think I could follow them too much if they changed it. The only way I see them ridding themselves of the name is if they move rather far from here (i.e. Seattle), but if they're in this area, I can't see them changing the name.

As of today, I honestly believe our chances of landing Lebron is 25%. If we scrap the Brooklyn deal and move to Newark, I say it goes down to 10%. Granted I know we can get one of the other big names that offseason to come or trade for a star since we'll be so far under the cap, but I feel if we are not at least in the process of building a stadium in New York, chances of landing Lebron is slim to none. Jay-Z can't make all our dreams come true lol.

[jerseyjac]

though another thing to keep in mind...cant remember where I read it or heard it...but Stern isnt really backing NJ as far as the Nets staying here...he doesnt believe the state wants to support the team...obvioulsy there are stats to back that theory up...but I think its a bunch of bull and politics...the Meadowlands are ancient and the NJ needs a rebirth with the Nets in the shape of The ROCK...

[Preludepunk27]

Yeah I read that too about Stern a few months back that he still supports the move too. As long as he's in Ratner's back pocket too, Brooklyn is still the only option for the Nets.

In other news, regardless of the Nets situation, I think David Stern is the anti-christ.

[jerseyjac]

Yeah I read that too about Stern a few months back that he still supports the move too. As long as he's in Ratner's back pocket too, Brooklyn is still the only option for the Nets.

In other news, regardless of the Nets situation, I think David Stern is the anti-christ.

years ago I really like him...but it diminishes as the years go on...gettin a little bold with his words...wannabe tough guy... he's only in Secaucus...better watch his back, might get wacked...

[Xam279]

The move to brooklyn is not dead. It's true they are having trouble financing the project but that is the project on a whole. They currently do have some level of investment and i think any lack of funding will just cause them to scale it down rather than scrap it all together.

And as far as this affecting our Lebron chances I really don't think him playing one or half a season in Jersey would affect that. A large draw for Lebron playing in NY is he gets to be in a city he likes along with a boost in his marketing and endorsement opportunities. He'll still be able to do all those things. I think the best example is Jason Kidd who's marketing presence got a serious boost when he played in Jersey and still found time to enjoy NY due to its close proximity.

[BasketBrain]

Up next: Nets move to Long Island playing at the Nassau Coliseum.

I'm not saying I want it to happen, but this is Ratners next best option(for himself).

[Preludepunk27]

^^^ I'd rather root for the Thunder if they moved to Long Island. I think there is a -100% chance they'd move to Nassau Coliseum. They'd probably rather take an ownership stake in the Izod Center before they did that.

[Chris Morris]

Anyone who thinks the Brooklyn project is still alive is out of his mind.

The cost in this economy is too steep, the roadblocks are too high.

Ratner will end up selling this team in the next two years to investors that will move the Nets to Newark.

[vincecarter4pres]

Anyone who thinks the Brooklyn project is still alive is out of his mind.

The cost in this economy is too steep, the roadblocks are too high.

Ratner will end up selling this team in the next two years to investors that will move the Nets to Newark.

Brooklyn project dead, probably.

Nets moving to the Bricks,

I just have a bad feeling this team gets bought and moved completely out of Jersey within the next 2 or 3 years and if we are "lucky", they aren't moved too far, although that'll be an oxymoron if they are moved.

[Chris Morris]

Anyone who thinks the Brooklyn project is still alive is out of his mind.

The cost in this economy is too steep, the roadblocks are too high.

Ratner will end up selling this team in the next two years to investors that will move the Nets to Newark.

Brooklyn project dead, probably.

Nets moving to the Bricks,

I just have a bad feeling this team gets bought and moved completely out of Jersey within the next 2 or 3 years and if we are "lucky", they aren't moved too far, although that'll be an oxymoron if they are moved.

There aren't any viable untapped NBA markets out there. Vegas won't happen in our lifetimes and I'm pretty sure that St. Louis doesn't have an NBA arena.

Unless Mexico City is an option (like in Madden) then the Nets are staying in New Jersey.

[jerseyjac]

Anyone who thinks the Brooklyn project is still alive is out of his mind.

The cost in this economy is too steep, the roadblocks are too high.

Ratner will end up selling this team in the next two years to investors that will move the Nets to Newark.

Brooklyn project dead, probably.

Nets moving to the Bricks,

I just have a bad feeling this team gets bought and moved completely out of Jersey within the next 2 or 3 years and if we are "lucky", they aren't moved too far, although that'll be an oxymoron if they are moved.

There aren't any viable untapped NBA markets out there. Vegas won't happen in our lifetimes and I'm pretty sure that St. Louis doesn't have an NBA arena.

Unless Mexico City is an option (like in Madden) then the Nets are staying in New Jersey.

Seattle...ugh...though I feel for that city...

[jerseyjac]

Anyone who thinks the Brooklyn project is still alive is out of his mind.

The cost in this economy is too steep, the roadblocks are too high.

Ratner will end up selling this team in the next two years to investors that will move the Nets to Newark.

Brooklyn project dead, probably.

Nets moving to the Bricks,

My fingers are crossed...I hope we at least get a chance in Newark...

[Preludepunk27]

I don't know. We just got awarded those tax free grants to save Ratner and his investment group some dough. I personally don't think the economy is gonna be the issue. I think if they make it through the court system finally, Brooklyn is still going to happen.

Even though he denied it, I'm sure Ratner shopped the team. From what I read they spoke with Russian investors and oil tycoons in Dubai. Trust me, he could see a portion of the team and to either group and they'd be able to come up with the capital to get the project done in Brooklyn.

[pistons_in_6]

LBJ + nets = not even for 200million...

thats it im jumping ship its been nice being a net fan for 5 years guys...


still think we can land a big FA ???