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Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets

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Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#1 » by mkwest » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:23 pm

This is the final preseason game before the Regular season kicks off for us next Wednesday. We've dropped 3 of our last 4, and our last 3 against NBA teams, so it would be nice for us to end this preseason on a positive note. We've seen the good, the bad and the ugly through the first 7 games.

The Good:
Thornton has been putting up very solid numbers and has even managed to pick up a few assists along the way. We will be leaning heavily upon his shoulders this season, so we need for him to be a more consistent and efficient producer. Cassell and Maggette have tought him how to get to the line when your shot is not falling. He's going to soften the blow of Maggette's departure in terms of getting to charity stripe.

Eric Gordon has shown that he is more than capable of scoring in the NBA. He's averaged 14.2ppg, draining 36.7% of his threes (most from 27 feet out), and converted 84.6% of his free-throws. He unfortunately had a few early setbacks in his NBA career, but this guy is a natural talent. He gave us a glimpse of his potential in his 20 point 4th quarter effort against the Kings in a come from behind victory.

Mike Taylor was a pleasant surprise. You don't expect much from the 55th pick, but he has shown that he is worth a roster spot and can be effective at times. He had some truly impressive games, although he has not played as well in the past couple games. He is an exceptional athlete and knows how to score the ball. He's averaged 12.6ppg on 54% shooting. He's going to have to work on slowing down some and allowing the game to come to him so that he can stay in control. He's also had his pocket picked quite a bit. He's averaged 3.29 turnovers per game. They said he was a 2 but Dunleavy feels that he has the potential to be molded into a 1. As long as Davis is healthy, Taylor will have the luxury of being able to fine tune his game and be brought along slowly.

Paul Davis has been solid since returning from his injury. He's had to start the last few games and that is fine in preseason, but if he has to start in the regular season we're in trouble. If he is the 10th or 11th guy in the rotation then he's very solid. He's averaged 7.1 points & 5.6 rebounds through 7 games.

Steve Novak is as advertised. He's a sure shot from beyond the arc. He doesn't really do anything else, but at 48% that is fine by me.

Brian Skinner has been solid on the defensive end and is averaging over 2 blocks and a steal in less than 20 minutes. As long as we're healthy, we're going to enjoy him coming off the bench to maintain a strong defensive presence in the post.

The Bad:
We've lost our last 3 games against NBA teams and our offense has been stagnant. We had something like 51 points through 4 straight quarters in our last 2 games. We were without key players, but that is still very discouraging. Cuttino Mobley and Chris Kaman started off looking absolutely terrible. Mobley was not hitting his shots and was looking like his age had finally caught up to him. I am hoping that Gordon is able to take the wheel at shooting guard at some point in this season, but we need Cat to play dependable basketball and be a leader in the mean time. He did eventually pick his game up, but you can tell he has been frustrated with our injury woes. Kaman said that he wasn't taking it too serious since it was preseason, but I think he needed to come more prepared than what he did. He has looked decent the last couple of games, but I have to say that I'm disappointing in what he brought to the table in the first few games. Kaman 2.0 held his own last season, and we can't afford for him to regress, so he needs to keep pushing himself to stay focused.

The ugly:
I'm going to reserve this to having to play without 2 of our top 3 players due to injury. They could be showing some nice things in practice, but we have yet to see them put it all together on the floor when it matters. There's kinks that need to be worked out, and chemistry that needs to be built. By failing to have a full roster (primarily our regular starters) play together, we're looking at some rough times ahead. These guys need to gel, and we have a tough schedule to start the season off. Hopefully, they get a few full practice sessions together before the season starts.

Injury Report:
Clippers

Camby (bruised heel), Thomas (strained groin) & Davis (sprained ring finger) are all out.

Nuggets
Allen Iverson (sprained ankle) is questionable.
Chucky Atkins (knee), Sonny Weems (strained groin), & Steven Hunter (knee) are out.


P.S. There are a 11 games available for y'all to sign up for. They will be more fun once the games start to matter, and we get actually see them on tv. Hopefully those will start to fill up over the next few days :wink: :wink: :D
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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#2 » by mj_shoefanatic » Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:56 pm

I'll be in attendance that's for sure.

LET'S GO CLIPPERS! :clap:

btw I expect huge games from E-G and AL :wink:
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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#3 » by PlinkingPanda » Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:00 am

Too bad new-Q doesn't play for us anymore. I loved it when he got under Melo's skin.
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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#4 » by illastrate » Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:07 am

I'll be at the game tonight. Look out for a recap.
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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#5 » by mkwest » Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:45 am

Looking forward to reading it

I'm finally able to get decent reception and it's good to finally hear Ralph & Mike.


Hart/Mobley/Thornton/Skinner/Kaman start the game for the Clippers.
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Post#6 » by mkwest » Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:15 am

25-21 Nuggets lead at the end of the 1st quarter. Mobley got off to a nice start with 7 points. Skinner has been doing a little bit of everything. He has 4 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal. Jordan has been active on the boards. He did something that got Ralph & Mike excited but reception went crazy when they said whatever it was. He did end up with a technical after a basket though. He definitely has to improve his free-throw shooting. Come on rook.
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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#7 » by GuyverX » Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:46 am

They seem to be getting worse and worse...Baron needs to come back asap or I predict we'll be done with the season by New Year's at this rate. :lol:

I'm not listening to the game either and I think that's probably a good thing right now.
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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#8 » by TheBluest » Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:50 am

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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#9 » by TheBluest » Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:51 am

Dun put this team together if they can't perform better than this it will be a major embarrassment no doubt.
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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#10 » by mkwest » Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:52 am

62-42 Nuggets at halftime.

Pitiful 2nd quarter by the Clippers. Too many turnovers/fouls. Denver has shot 31 free-throws to our 10. This team desperately needs Diddy and Camby. Not even the Melo-stopper would help us tonight.
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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#11 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:44 am

I see that we're down big again......................................
I've been an LA Clipper fan since 1998 and that will never change. I hate our new logo and jerseys!
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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#12 » by TheBluest » Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:51 am

The team has almost committed 40fouls seriously. That's a tell tell sign of a team who isn't being coached any strong discipline methods in practice. Looks like Dun has acquired very lazy players defensively and impatient players offensively. The team just isn't good on either side of the ball. This is a team I wanted to keep an eye on during the season and so far I'm not impressed with Dun at all. I know he's missing two key pieces but come on an experienced coach like him should be producing better results. Maybe Baron and Camby truly will be the difference and if so then Dun the GM gets credit Dun the coach is up for some serious debate.
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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#13 » by GuyverX » Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:05 am

Let's hold on the judgment right now. It's pre-season and the starters have not played with one another for even one game. On the other side, the Nuggets have their full roster out there. Aside from AI and Melo, they actually do have a deep team.

None of this counts and the slate is clean on October 29th. The last few games have been horrible but I'm not worried.
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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#14 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:10 am

We lost 106-92 :(
I've been an LA Clipper fan since 1998 and that will never change. I hate our new logo and jerseys!
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Post#15 » by mkwest » Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:20 am

106-92 Nuggets win.

The foul disparity was ridiculous in this game. A few of our players were never able to get into a groove because of being in foul trouble. Gordon's production did pick up in the 4th quarter. That's his favorite time of the game and he is not afraid to have the ball in his hands down the stretch. Novak had a nice stretch, I think it was in the 2nd quarter where he hit a few 3's. Mobley had a decent outing and DJ was active on the boards tonight.

We lost our 3rd straight, but when you take out two of your best players and 5 of your players have 3 years pro experience, you're going to struggle. The guys have 4 days off before it really counts. I just hope that they can get in some quality practices between now and then, but if not hopefully the rehabbing players will be ready for opening night.
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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#16 » by corgiBear8 » Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:08 am

The offense started looking a little more fluid in the fourth with Hart running the point. Gordon was getting into the flow, and that was the only time Kaman was able to get the ball deep in the post.

When Gordon took that flagrant foul by JR Smith I was worried, but was very impressed that he was able to shake it off, and still play his game.

We definitely need Baron and Camby back. Looking forward to Wednesday.
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Post#17 » by illastrate » Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:51 am

Just got back from the game. It was terrible. The FT disparity was sickening. We were in constant foul trouble. And what hurts is the Nuggs didn't shoot well from the field (about the same as us), but they just simply outhustled us. One thing that stood out is our lack of a post presence. Unless Kaman gets back to his 07-08 form, we're gonna be hurting in that department. My player observations:

Mobley - As much as some of us hate on Cat cause he's "old" or "slow", the guy can still play. He was one of the few guys who actually made things happen. TT and Cat will be very important elements to the success of our team this year.

Kaman - His numbers were OK, but again, his post presence was lackluster and he was letting Nene get to the hole at will. BLAH.

Thornton - foul trouble the whole night. Couldn't get anything going. I'm just gonna act like this night never existed for him.

Taylor - again, foul trouble. Only played 10 mins. But he pushed the ball and made things happen. Was a perfect 4-4 from the field and 2-2 from the line. This guy can be a game changer and I hope he can takeover Hart's spot as the backup PG.

Hart - Jason is a steady player, makes very few mistakes, plays good D. That's the problem, he's kind of ordinary.

Gordon - Didn't get enough minutes. Dun better give him minutes during the season, at least 20 per. He's definitely a spark off the bench.

Ricky D - Decent passer, made a few shots, but overall didn't show much tonight.

Jordan - he's extremely raw offensively, but is a good rebounder and shot blocker, although he got outplayed by The Birdman Chris Andersen a few times.



I know it's just preseason, but I found myself overly frustrated at times. I REALLY CAN'T wait for Baron, Camby, and yes, even Timmay to return!
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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#18 » by JJ LoDuca » Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:06 am

illastrate wrote:I REALLY CAN'T wait for Baron, Camby, and yes, even Timmay to return!


SO glad to see that I'm not the only one who refers to him in this way!! :lol:

And while its frustrating to watch the losses pile up, the games don't begin till Wednesday. The aforementioned will be rested, whereas the laker's lineup will have to face us on the latter-end of a back-to-back after playing their starters solid minutes in the preseason. Not to mention Kob's potential "hyperextended" knee problem. But I guess this should've been saved for the REAL game thread. What can I say...I'm just pumped that after all this waiting, the preseason is done with and now we have the good stuff (knocking on wood) to look forward to!
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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#19 » by corgiBear8 » Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:24 pm

Another thing I forgot to mention is that Iverson gave his game worn shoes to a young boy wearing his all star jersey. Good to see the players showing appreciation to the younger NBA fans.
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Re: Preseason Game 8: Clippers VS Nuggets 

Post#20 » by PETEY PABLO » Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:54 pm

I was able to get seats 5 rows behind the basket.I had a good time and the view was great. The offense was not great, as there were many turn overs and the Clips could not get into any sets or get good ball movement. The Nuggets seemed to be playing pretty solid defense and really bothered LA. Mobley was the main option for most of the night. He looked to be getting more comfortable and like he has taken off some of the rust. I kept hearing the whistle blow every other play. I think that took the Clippers out of their flow. Allen Iverson looks kinda old in person, As if he has been smoking blunts every day of his life.

Carmelo Anthony looked kinda casual out there. He was abusing Mobley every time. JR Smith looks like he is really confident out there . He scored at will , especially when Gordon was guarding him. He made some hand gestures every time he dropped a three. Im not sure if it was a dis towards Gordon.
Nene looked like he was a pro. Every time i see him play , I think of him as being ineffective but last night he looked pretty good.

Over all , I think that Denver having their full squad out there and playing well was to much for the Clippers to over come. I cant wait for the season to start and hope fully the Clippers can start strong.
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