A solid two year rebuilding plan

Xam279 · Post #1 » by **Xam279** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:50 am

First of let me just say that Thorn and Kiki have done an excellent job at acquiring assets. They have so much assets that some are ignored in this post because I really don't know what to do with them. However I will start with 2010 and move backwards from there.

Sign A Big Free Agent: The big name going around is Lebron of course but he's not the only option. People like Joe Johnson (who may be very frustrated with ownership by then) will be available. The main thing is we need to keen in on a talented wing in 2010.

Sign Kristic: If and only if he has recovered from knee surgery we still retain his rights and his current deal in Europe will be expired in 2010. From what I've heard he's already been getting rave reviews so this may actually happen.

Trade Boone: Many of you are wondering why we would sign Kristic with such a loaded front court? Well Kristic does everything Boone does and more. He can shoot and wont be a liability with free throws. We currently have 7 big men. Lopez and Yi are going no where. William has too much potential to give up and the front court depth would allow us to wait and cash in. Najera wont demand a lot of playing time and his contract is excellent for what he provides. That leaves Swift, Boone and Anderson. We can let Swift walk when his contract expires and Anderson is one of the most ready to play big men we have.

Boone is a good player but we could use his value in other areas. Boone for a pick in the 12 to 15 range sounds about right.

2009 Draft Wing players:This team needs a talented wing player that will eventually replace Vince Carter. My hope is we finish with a record that lands us with the 8-10 pic in the lottery and get lucky like the Bulls and land a top 3 pic. If that is the case a combo 2/3 would be out best bet. I'm pushing for some one like Harden or Derozan.

Now keep in mind that the draft portion of this plan is subject to change due to where players project and what pick we end up with but we absolutely must have Stephon Curry. He's perfect for the system we run and he is just as capable of playing the two as Harris and Dooling. His ability to shoot the ball will have Lebron saying who's Boobie?

Trade pieces that don't fit: The great thing about this team is that the contracts are so fairly priced and manageable that it should be easy to move guys. We have a lot of expiring contracts and draft pics along with the contracts of Najera and Dooling that can be used to acquire better pieces. (if they dont mesh with the team)

There are other minor moves that should occur like what to do with Hayes and Simmons when they expire and how to get rid of Ager but other than that this is the core of what I feel they should do. Some of you may have noticed I held onto Vince Carter. I believe he has more value with the team than in a trade. Lebron wants to win now and Carter has a good 3 or 4 years left in him before he takes his shot at 6th man of the year. By that time which ever wing players we draft this year will be ready. Not to mention Carter's contract is up in 2011 and we have a lot of young guys to resign. If people like Lopez, Yi and CDR deliver on their promise we'll have to pay them.

The team should look something like this...

pg Harris/Dooling/Curry
sg Carter/CDR/Curry
sf James/ (Harden/Derozan)/Najera
pf Yi/SWAT/ Anderson
C Lopez/Kristic

ecuhus1981 · Post #2 » by **ecuhus1981** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:25 pm

Welcome, Xam279.

There are alot of solid ideas in your post. One, Boone's cap hold in 2010 will be a bit pesky, and I fully expect Jianlian and Lopez to be entrenched in the starting lineup and working well together by then. So, unless we signed him to an extremely reasonable, long-term deal (~4 years, $10.5mil), moving him would make some sense.

We don't really need a Curry on this team, even if we get James. Nor would he entice LBJ to come to the Nets. I wouldn't be heartbroken if we got him, though.

vincecarter4pres · Post #3 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:13 pm

I'm still hoping we land James Harden.

Perfect guy to put next to Devin in the future.

The next Brandon Roy.

Stone · Post #4 » by **Stone** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:53 pm

I'm still not sold on Kiki. Remember back to his denver days when he had a ton of cap room and everybody was saying he was a genius? All the NY media all giddy that his next stop might be with the Bricks. After all that where did Denver ever go?

I think this is going to be a long rebuilding process. Were going to have to truly bottom out and build from there. If we can pick up LBJ we have to go for it but if we can't I don't want to squander the money away and be another middle of the road team.

What we need is some of our young guys to have breakout years. When I say that I mean they have to do more than just put up good numbers on a not so good team. They really have to develope there games. Thats why I feel this is a very important season for us.

Da big3 · Post #5 » by **Da big3** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:22 pm

welcome xam, i like were u went w/ the other free agents, such as Joe Johnson, if we cant get Lebron...

Post #6 » by **jerseyjac** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:56 am

Da big3 wrote:welcome xam, i like were u went w/ the other free agents, such as Joe Johnson, if we cant get Lebron...

I agree too...I've become a Joe Johnson fan...curious to see where his game goes this year...you would think up is the only place...but I like to see the consistency, while maintaining his game and duplicating seasons of production...he's at an allstar level, I hope he keeps his game and doesnt overextend himself within the Hawks system...they have a nice team over there, he needs keep the team game perspective which he accomplished last year...

vincecarter4pres · Post #7 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:04 pm

I love Joe Johnson, but I would not want to sign him as a FA in 2010.
He will be 30 I believe and a 30-35 year old SG is not the route I want us to go with our newly aquired cap room.
If that was the case, give me a 32 year old Dirk for 3 or 4 years.

Xam279 · Post #8 » by **Xam279** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:29 am

Appreciate the love.... I been reading some of these replies and that got me thinking. Some one brought up a really good point about Joe Johnson's age. I hadn't thought about that so in that case I would only try to sign him if we did manage to trade Carter. I'd go after both Lebron and J.J. It sounds a little far fetched but it's not too different from what the Celtics did. Just fly them both in and sell them on the idea of playing with a solid team. As a matter of fact it's been done before. The Magic cleared cap space and got both Mcgrady and Grant Hill to sign after a team of all role players nearly made the playoffs.

deviljets7 · Post #9 » by **deviljets7** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:26 am

I love Joe Johnson, but I think he's more of a Robin than a Batman (especially since he'll be 30 when he hits FA).

I'd trade Carter and hope to sign one of the franchise FAs (we know the names at this point) to go with Johnson.

deviljets7 · Post #10 » by **deviljets7** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:31 am

Xam279 wrote:Appreciate the love.... I been reading some of these replies and that got me thinking. Some one brought up a really good point about Joe Johnson's age. I hadn't thought about that so in that case I would only try to sign him if we did manage to trade Carter. I'd go after both Lebron and J.J. It sounds a little far fetched but it's not too different from what the Celtics did. Just fly them both in and sell them on the idea of playing with a solid team. As a matter of fact it's been done before. The Magic cleared cap space and got both Mcgrady and Grant Hill to sign after a team of all role players nearly made the playoffs.

I don't think it's quite as far fetched as you think. By trading Carter, you'll probably have cap room for 2 big time FAs. I think that makes it a lot more appealing for an elite FA (LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Amare) since they can "bring a friend" with them. Also, if you can get one of those guys, I think you become the preferred destination for the older/2nd tier FA (like a Johnson).

I like Carter, but I can't see the ability of playing with a 33-year-old VC being more appealing for an elite free agent than the potential roster possibilities that would come with the additional $15 mil in cap space.

S.I.C. GM · Post #11 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:34 pm

Welcome Xam,

I agree with most of your ideas.

Yeah JJ's age may be a problem, but it also depends on How Much. As far as Lebron, I think it is going to be hard for us to get him if the Arena isnt ready. I am all for Lebron or Wade but this may be a setback.

I am all for trading Boone. Yeah S.Will has looked lost but I think he has more upside then Boone. I do agree with the Krstic idea. If he gets back to form, I say we sign him too. Lopez and Krstic would give us the Low post offense and rebounding. S.Will will help with the D. Anderson would be the big hard nose versatile F.

We have to draft wings the next two drafts. we have too many bigs. I am for a top 5 SG. I also want Curry. The kid can shoot and has balls. He can come off the bench and be instint offense from behind the ark.

S.I.C. GM · Post #12 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:42 pm

Stone wrote:I'm still not sold on Kiki. Remember back to his denver days when he had a ton of cap room and everybody was saying he was a genius? All the NY media all giddy that his next stop might be with the Bricks. After all that where did Denver ever go?

I think this is going to be a long rebuilding process. Were going to have to truly bottom out and build from there. If we can pick up LBJ we have to go for it but if we can't I don't want to squander the money away and be another middle of the road team.

What we need is some of our young guys to have breakout years. When I say that I mean they have to do more than just put up good numbers on a not so good team. They really have to develope there games. Thats why I feel this is a very important season for us.

Stone dont worry about Kiki. First lets hope both Kiki and Thorn have learned their lesson on signing useless players. This summer the signed three players that they needed. A defensive minded backup PG/SG. Najera is going to help on and off the court. Hayes is the insurance SG/SF.

Second, We have most of the pieces. Young PG, Young PF, and Young C. Hopefully either CDR or Anderson can develop into a SG or SF type player. If not, those two on our bench is great.

What we really need is a Young PLAYER that is going to be a STAR. Whether it is by drafting or signing or trading, we need a guy that is a STAR. Either we get lucky and get Lebron or Wade or we have to draft the NEXT ONE. Someone that would eventually lead and make people around them better.

vincecarter4pres · Post #13 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:20 pm

S.I.C. GM wrote:What we really need is a Young PLAYER that is going to be a STAR. Whether it is by drafting or signing or trading, we need a guy that is a STAR. Either we get lucky and get Lebron or Wade or we have to draft the NEXT ONE. Someone that would eventually lead and make people around them better.

Do I hear someone saying James Harden?

S.I.C. GM · Post #14 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:08 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
S.I.C. GM wrote:What we really need is a Young PLAYER that is going to be a STAR. Whether it is by drafting or signing or trading, we need a guy that is a STAR. Either we get lucky and get Lebron or Wade or we have to draft the NEXT ONE. Someone that would eventually lead and make people around them better.

Do I hear someone saying James Harden?

Not too familiar with the up and coming but a lot of people talk about this guy and the derozon guy.

As long as one of these guys have the potential to be Wade or Lebron or Kobe type talent to an extent, I am for it. I want someone young that is going to grow with this team. So in 2 or 3 yrs we are a force.

lurkingobeiscity · Post #15 » by **lurkingobeiscity** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:05 am

The Nets focus should be increasing talent with players who can/will play defense and acquiring a top flight PF. Looking around the league, almost every top team has a top PF/C.

vincecarter4pres · Post #16 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:07 am

Think of James Harden as the next Brandon Roy.

He just has a solid overall game.

He plays good defense.

He makes people around him better.

Preludepunk27 · Post #17 » by **Preludepunk27** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:53 pm

I love Derozon, but Harden I think is absolutely perfect for this team. If we landed either of them, I'd love life.

I love CDR, but I think that he's better suited as a 6 man off the bench at the 2 and 3 spot. If he understands that and is willing to become a James Posey type player off the bench for his career, man we'd have a solid young team ready for a star to come in and bring it all together in 2010.

S.I.C. GM · Post #18 » by **S.I.C. GM** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:03 pm

lurkingobeiscity wrote:The Nets focus should be increasing talent with players who can/will play defense and acquiring a top flight PF. Looking around the league, almost every top team has a top PF/C.

From what I have seen in the preseason and some college games, Lurk, I think Lopez can be a top flight C. I agree we may need a PF that can defend but I dont think he has to be top flight. If sean williams can wake up he might fit the bill, but that is all speculation.

Like I said before, We are going to need a scorer at the SG or SF positon. Someone that can score at will.

We have a very good PG, a C that can be good (like VC4pres said, not but I hope close to Duncan), we have Yi whether he develops as a SF or PF and we have a nice young group of players that can round out our bench.