Yi Talk (Merging) Current Topic: Is Yi A Legit Talent?

[slammyhome]

last year draft people were saying he way more 6'11", but i've been reading around and lopez is suppoze to be a legit 7footer, but yi looks taller when they stand next to each other.

[slammyhome]

i was reading this wizards fan blog, his perception of yi changed towards the end of the game.

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2008/10/2 ... log-vs-new

[realfung]

Maybe he grows in inches, but I think his game needs to grow too.

[MnM_McgradyMing]

Brook Lopez is a bit taller than Yi. I Saw photos of them two standing next too each other and brook is about 1/2 an inch taller.

[EFF]

Yi needs to cut to the basket for some opportunities and also to keep pressure on the defense. I really hope he doesn't turn into a stop and popper.

[tidbit]

Yi needs to cut to the basket for some opportunities and also to keep pressure on the defense. I really hope he doesn't turn into a stop and popper.

Yi ups and downs as I mentioned above

hopefully, he could be more stable next year, with a 15pts, 6rbs

[tidbit]

few posts here?

[SteveNets15]

Wheres the fadeaway jumper?

[Preludepunk27]

The one thing I've notice on Yi that I hope he improves on is creating space to take his shots. He's doing well so far this season. Even the shots that aren't falling, I wouldn't call them ill-advised shots. He's pretty smart on the court from what I've seen. My only knock is that he's taking a lot of contested shots. If he wasn't 7 feet tall, I've seem him take a ton of shots that would have been blocked. I don't remember Dirk when he was this young, but he needs to take a few notes on how Dirk creates space if he wants to become an above average player in this league.

[tidbit]

Wheres the fadeaway jumper?

Cann't you guys see the clips?
probably it's the problem of you ie,

[SteveNets15]

now i c it. It was gettin cut off b4 the shot when i looked earlier

[skones]

You guys will have to deal with the Chinese fans all year. Be prepared.

You're a racist. congrats.

Anyway, first, Vince is the key to our success. Without him, we are as bad as everyone predicts.
But if Yi stays aggressive I'm looking for him to be most improved player of the year. For a guy his size, he can do it all. He's like a poor man's KG or he could be in the future if he's as smart a player as he is physically gifted.

It has nothing to do with racism actually. Some of them, not all of them, are Yi fans, not Nets fans and that has to be remembered. As soon as your team starts to lose, some of them will tell you how your organization blows and how you're misusing Yi, blah blah blah. It can get annoying, plain and simple.

In response to the rest of your post, I can't see Yi becoming player of the year at least this year. The guy HAS NOT had an offseason for a very long time. He didn't get a break last summer since he was playing with the National Team and he didn't get one this summer because he was doing the same thing. There are a lot of holes in his game that need to be honed in on and that will take a lot of one on one drills.

Areas that need improvement from last year:
Ball handling
In order for him to fully utilize his athleticism, he needs to be able to take guys off the dribble otherwise he can be played for the jumper every time. It became obvious that that was shaky last season and teams started playing for the jumper all the time last season. As soon as that happened, hie jumper started falling a lot less and his shooting percentage took a significant hit.

Hands
He had very VERY week hands. I have NEVER seen a player who had that many rebounds in his hands simply ripped away from him by not only bigger players but smaller guys. He'll also fumble a few passes.

Passing
His passing is pretty lazy at times. He'll get caught throwing a slow lazy pass once in a while which will end up as two points for the other team.

Strength
When Yi puts on a few pounds this is the one thing that can help him turn the corner. I don't believe he's had the time to do that this offseason. He's just NOT a very good finisher around the hoop at this point. Last year the slightest contact and the ball would go sailing off the backboard.

Conditioning (he broke down towards the end of the season)

I like Yi as a player, I had mixxed feelings about the Jefferson trade when it went down. He's got a beautiful shot with a very high release which makes it nearly unblockable and he's a fluid seven footer. He's got tremendous potential, but he's more of a project than I think some of you realize. We all got excited at the start of last year, especially during December but then he came back down to earth and he looked like what he was, a young kid still trying to find his way in the NBA.

[tidbit]

You guys will have to deal with the Chinese fans all year. Be prepared.

You're a racist. congrats.

Anyway, first, Vince is the key to our success. Without him, we are as bad as everyone predicts.
But if Yi stays aggressive I'm looking for him to be most improved player of the year. For a guy his size, he can do it all. He's like a poor man's KG or he could be in the future if he's as smart a player as he is physically gifted.

It has nothing to do with racism actually. Some of them, not all of them, are Yi fans, not Nets fans and that has to be remembered. As soon as your team starts to lose, some of them will tell you how your organization blows and how you're misusing Yi, blah blah blah. It can get annoying, plain and simple.

Thanks.
Skones, You have a nice and accurate comment on Yi, he needs to improve himself in many fields, good potential never guarantee a good future.

But do you think all Yi's fans should always keep silent when Bucks play like last season?
I seldom made comment on Bucks, but I don't think Bucks board is for academic use only or something, and all criticism and advice are forbidden there.

No matter what you says, you post there or here just to share you ideas, don't you?
Unfortunately, Truth seldom sounds pleasant.

BTW：
When it comes to racism, there is no racism in china, all colors of guys are equal and welcome in china, we have over five thousand years of history, anyone look down upon us just showing that their are simple.

Never look down upon others, any living things in the universe deserve OUR respect.

[EFF]

In response to the rest of your post, I can't see Yi becoming player of the year at least this year. The guy HAS NOT had an offseason for a very long time. He didn't get a break last summer since he was playing with the National Team and he didn't get one this summer because he was doing the same thing. There are a lot of holes in his game that need to be honed in on and that will take a lot of one on one drills.

Areas that need improvement from last year:
Ball handling
In order for him to fully utilize his athleticism, he needs to be able to take guys off the dribble otherwise he can be played for the jumper every time. It became obvious that that was shaky last season and teams started playing for the jumper all the time last season. As soon as that happened, hie jumper started falling a lot less and his shooting percentage took a significant hit.

Hands
He had very VERY week hands. I have NEVER seen a player who had that many rebounds in his hands simply ripped away from him by not only bigger players but smaller guys. He'll also fumble a few passes.

Passing
His passing is pretty lazy at times. He'll get caught throwing a slow lazy pass once in a while which will end up as two points for the other team.

Strength
When Yi puts on a few pounds this is the one thing that can help him turn the corner. I don't believe he's had the time to do that this offseason. He's just NOT a very good finisher around the hoop at this point. Last year the slightest contact and the ball would go sailing off the backboard.

Conditioning (he broke down towards the end of the season)

I like Yi as a player, I had mixxed feelings about the Jefferson trade when it went down. He's got a beautiful shot with a very high release which makes it nearly unblockable and he's a fluid seven footer. He's got tremendous potential, but he's more of a project than I think some of you realize. We all got excited at the start of last year, especially during December but then he came back down to earth and he looked like what he was, a young kid still trying to find his way in the NBA.

All makes sense.

Ball handling: no argument here.

Hands: We are used to weak hands because of Josh Boone. I have a question though: does he have small hands for his size? is that why he can't grab them or is it because he does not do so assertively enough?

Passing: I feel like the reason for slow lazy passes in is because of lack of acclimation to the speed of the nba game. anyone can throw a pass, but you wont throw it confidently until you get used to the system and know that its the move you wanna make. But the ball will come out flat if you're second guessing yourself mid pass.

obviously, RJ's 22 ppg will be missed, but we needed a system change if anything. RJ didn't work well with vince and considering we needed a play maker more than a straight scorer, RJ was the one the go. It may have been the way they were used that made them not mesh well since the offense consisted of 80% isolations.

But if Yi can become more aggressive and diversify his game, then he should work out well. I am afraid though that he's gonna be a jump shooter which would make him inconsistent since he's clearly not a dirk yet.

[vincecarter4pres]

obviously, RJ's 22 ppg will be missed, but we needed a system change if anything. RJ didn't work well with vince and considering we needed a play maker more than a straight scorer, RJ was the one the go. It may have been the way they were used that made them not mesh well since the offense consisted of 80% isolations.

Yeah, Frank's iso's always have and will kill me. Just such a dumb way to underutilize the playmaking skills of Kidd and VC, especially with a slasher like RJ around them.
And RJ's one on one game and handle just aren't the stuff made for constant iso's.
Sad part is, I was watching extended minutes of a couple of the first few Bucks games this season and saw way too much RJ iso and RJ pull up pops from deep already, which is starting to lead me to believe that RJ takes it upon himself to iso and shoot off the driblle way too much. I guess he has way to high a regard for his own abilites and which facets of the game he is strongest in?
Maybe Opie wasn't calling half those plays, further proving that RJ was actually the culprit in sabotaging the offense and giving more merit to him being the most selfish player out of the big 3.

[skones]

Thanks.
Skones, You have a nice and accurate comment on Yi, he needs to improve himself in many fields, good potential never guarantee a good future.

But do you think all Yi's fans should always keep silent when Bucks play like last season?
I seldom made comment on Bucks, but I don't think Bucks board is for academic use only or something, and all criticism and advice are forbidden there.

No matter what you says, you post there or here just to share you ideas, don't you?
Unfortunately, Truth seldom sounds pleasant.

When did I say they should keep quiet? There were many Chinese posters bashing our organization saying how it was the organization's fault for Yi performing like he did the second half of the season. In fact, Yi WAS JUST A BAD PLAYER from January on last season. That's the straight 'TRUTH.' The team goes deeper than one player. It's rather frustrating when people think player before team. It just gets extremely annoying, if you don't understand that, I don't know another way to put it.

[skones]

All makes sense.

Ball handling: no argument here.

Hands: We are used to weak hands because of Josh Boone. I have a question though: does he have small hands for his size? is that why he can't grab them or is it because he does not do so assertively enough?

Passing: I feel like the reason for slow lazy passes in is because of lack of acclimation to the speed of the nba game. anyone can throw a pass, but you wont throw it confidently until you get used to the system and know that its the move you wanna make. But the ball will come out flat if you're second guessing yourself mid pass.

obviously, RJ's 22 ppg will be missed, but we needed a system change if anything. RJ didn't work well with vince and considering we needed a play maker more than a straight scorer, RJ was the one the go. It may have been the way they were used that made them not mesh well since the offense consisted of 80% isolations.

But if Yi can become more aggressive and diversify his game, then he should work out well. I am afraid though that he's gonna be a jump shooter which would make him inconsistent since he's clearly not a dirk yet.

He's got very big hands, they're just not very good. Whether that's something that will improve with strength remains to be seen. He grabs the rebounds, but he's stripped time after time. The ball just comes out very easily.

He's got a very nice turn around jumper from the post but he rarely uses that move. He prefers to drift out to the perimeter and shoot 18 footers. He's got to get away from that. If he does, he could be a very nice player.

[DrM]

Excellent analysis, Skones.

Jefferson was a very popular player in NJ, and he deserved to be popular. A lot of fans resent Yi for being part of the RJ trade. So they have been unfairly critical of Yi for anything he (the 2nd-year player) is not (yet) as good as Jefferson (the 8th-year player). A lot of people take shots at skills that Yi has not developed and expect him to be like last year for the rest of his career.

Last year was just a wasted year for Yi. With Milwaukee’s incompetent owner and GM, clueless coach, selfish franchise player and point guard, toxic team chemistry, lazy/no defense mentality, Yi did not make any progress at all. I think of him more as a rookie progress wise even though he is in his second season.

Fortunately for him, Milwaukee gave up on him. NJ provides a much better sandbox for him. (No comment on Frank.) Carter and Harris want to get everyone involved in the game. (Carter is a much better playmaker than people give him credits for.) Everyone is playing hard despite many defensive breakdowns due to unfamiliarity with new teammates and youth. His teammates are much more willing to help him utilize his strengths and shore up his weaknesses. He has the desire and work ethics to develop his skills. I don’t know how fast and how far he’ll develop. But he’ll be a much better player in a couple of years.

Moving to NJ is good for him, and he’ll be good for NJ. With the development of Yi, Lopez, Anderson and maturing of Harris and Boone, the Nets will improve in leaps and bounds and become one of the better teams in a couple of years. Go Nets.

[lurkingobeiscity]

Most of Yi's issues would be fixed if the coaches made him operate closer to the basket, mostly in the mid post and elbow area. Then the main thing he would have to work on is his ability to go left.

His conditioning has looked good and his defensive effort is better than I expected too. He should improve there with some time.

[tidbit]

Thanks.
Skones, You have a nice and accurate comment on Yi, he needs to improve himself in many fields, good potential never guarantee a good future.

But do you think all Yi's fans should always keep silent when Bucks play like last season?
I seldom made comment on Bucks, but I don't think Bucks board is for academic use only or something, and all criticism and advice are forbidden there.

No matter what you says, you post there or here just to share you ideas, don't you?
Unfortunately, Truth seldom sounds pleasant.

When did I say they should keep quiet? There were many Chinese posters bashing our organization saying how it was the organization's fault for Yi performing like he did the second half of the season. In fact, Yi WAS JUST A BAD PLAYER from January on last season. That's the straight 'TRUTH.' The team goes deeper than one player. It's rather frustrating when people think player before team. It just gets extremely annoying, if you don't understand that, I don't know another way to put it.

There always some comments over the top on any board. Even lakers, spurs, rockets, celtics...let alone bucks...

They just disappointed with Bucks, not just Yi's fans.