Marbury and Antonio Mcdyess

[Xenopathic Investigator]

Seeing how both of them are going to be waived soon why not just get them?

[JES12]

On vet min contracts, either would be nice. Their addition would allow us great trade flexability.
Bass & Stack for Mike Miller?
Terry, Stack and Bass for Michael Redd?
Howard, Stack and Bass for Wallace and Richardson?

Whatever, their addition would allow flexability. That said, I think NY is still waiting til Dec 15th to pull a Marbury to Dallas trade. Terry + Stack + George so they can pay that money for players that are actually playing.

[mffl_14]

On vet min contracts, either would be nice. Their addition would allow us great trade flexability.
Bass & Stack for Mike Miller?
Terry, Stack and Bass for Michael Redd?
Howard, Stack and Bass for Wallace and Richardson?

Whatever, their addition would allow flexability. That said, I think NY is still waiting til Dec 15th to pull a Marbury to Dallas trade. Terry + Stack + George so they can pay that money for players that are actually playing.

Do you think that NY would be willing to take on Terry's contract just to get rid of Marbury especially since Marbury's contract is big and expiring ? If they are I'm all for that I love JET but man that could do wonders for us cap wise.

[JES12]

It may be just a little intuition or maybe even wishful thinking, but I think that trade has a higher likeleyhood of happening than about 95% of the trades posted on the trade forum.

All of the following are "IMO"
-The actual trade happening would have Roberson and Colins coming back for salary (6.5 mil over the next 3 years) and roster space reasons.
-New York would like players that can contribute now
-Terry's contract this year + Terry's contract next year + all of George's (he will opt out of NY) + all of Stack's (waived) is just $1.5 mil more than what they would spend on Marbs and the scrubs coming back. They save that much in Lux tax this season alone.
-PG is one of their biggest issue
-Terry would give them leverage when it comes to resigning Nate and/or Duhon
-They are not going to have cap space before 2011 to do any major FA unless some team does them a favor in a trade.
-----Current roster in 2010 assuming they do not resign Nate, Lee or Duhon is $51,009,038 for 7 players.
-----2009, 2010 1st rounders will eat up at least 3 mil of that space
-----Min roster size is 13, so 13 - 7 - 2 rookies = 4 vet min players (~$0.8 mil in 2010?) eating up another 3.2 mil
-----That leaves $57.2 mil of a cap that will hover slightly above 60 mil, so all they would have is MLE in 2010
-Terry will be movable in 2011 as an expiring contract

So given that Terry fits a need, doesn't really hurt any long term salary plans (unless they use their picks to move Curry, Jeffires, Crawford, or Randolph) and they get 3 useful players instead of one headache.....yeah, from a NY perspective, I think they would do it.

From a Mav's perspective, Cuban likes Marbury and since Cuban is banking on a Chip while Kidd is here and then rebuild, it fits Dallas' plans perfectly.

George may need to be changed to Wright and/or Williams, but, yeah, I can see that happening, but it can't happen til Dec 15th (the reason why I thin the FO has not waived or bought out Marbury).

2008-09 (salary w/o trade $97,926,228)
Marbury ($20,840,625) + Collins ($1,034,760) + Roberson ($797,581) - Terry ($9,196,000) - George ($1,600,000) - Stack ($7,000,000) = $4,876,966 Salary savings for NY this year...$9,753,932 with tax

2009-10 (salary w/o trade $70,726,234)...no need to sign more players
Marbury expires, Roberson non-guaranteed contract
for simplification, I will assume their 2009 pick will eat the difference btwn the lux tax next year and the paroll listed above
Collins ($1,867,742) - Terry (9,075,000) = $7,207,258 added salary....$14,414,516 with tax
-----meaning, the trade defers $9.754 mil to next year after the economy recovers, and the difference is and additional $4.66 mil. IMO, that is a bargain for 2 years of Terry vs 1 year of Marbury headlines.

2010-11 ($51,009,038)
assuming 2 rookies, need to sign 4 players, thus no room for FA above MLE
Terry's $9,873,000 will not put them over the tax even with MLE signings 2 years in a row. This year, Crawford, Jeffries, Randolph, and Curry all playing for contracts.

2011-12
Terry only has 5 mil guaranteed, controlled by the management. Unless they squander their cap space, Terry will not affect major free agents from signing this year.