Who's Our Best SG?

[STChaser]

In terms of a pure SG, I would have to say that Louis Williams fits the mold better than Iguodala but defensively, he's a bit small to cover opposing 2's. For that matter, at this particular time, Kareem Rush brings more to the table than Iguodala because he doesn't give up much size and he can spread the floor - something only Thaddeus can do among our starting lineup players. With Miller having such little range, I really think we need to either think about starting Lou at the point or replacing Iguodala with Rush - at least until Iguodala figures out how to play again. My ideal lineups would be (at least in terms of who deserves to start versus who we've paid to start):

Lou
Rush
Thaddeus
Brand
Sam

Miller
Green
Iguodala / Marshall
Speights / Evans
Ratliff / Speights

STChaser

[76ciology]

IMO, Lou Will at SG then Iggy at PG is the way to go.

First, this gives us another option, other than Brand and Young, on offense. Young and Brand aren't Shaq and Kobe where you can just surround them role players like our backcourt and Daly. We need more options out there, especially with the double teams Brand is receiving. And Louis Williams' shooting touch from the outside shall gives us better spacing with our halfcourt sets.

Second, this is one of the ways Iggy can make his contract reasonable. Imagine a 6'7 PG like Iggy with incredible length and athletic ability. I'd rather pay that kind of player rather than a SG who isn't a scorer and isn't a great shooter from the outside.

Third, we're stuck with Iggy and his contract. Let's put him at a position he'd be more comfortable with improving. Five seasons. You still expect him to be a great shooter and scorer? I don't think he is comfortable being a scorer for he never was a scorer. Don't be deceive by his 20ppg, it's bloated. I don't think he'll never be that kind of a scorer unless he'll be put in the same situation he was for the previous 2 seasons. He is a natural PG, IMO. He played PG in HS and he tries to emulate his game with Anfernee Hardaway. The positives of his game is that he's got length, ball handling ability (for his size), speed (for his size), and court vision (with his size). We can utilize this strengths by letting him play PG, this also allows us to have Lou Williams play SG. On the defensive end, Iggy will end up guarding opposing SGs, while Lou Will will guard opposing PGs.

Fourth, Iggy is playing the PG for us this season anyway. You saw Andre Iguodala bringing the ball down and calling the halfcourt plays. During our game with the Magic, he made some crucial plays down the stretch with the PG role and IMO, it was a solid job. He was playing the PG for us is some stretches, thus this won't give us any doubt if he's capable of playing PG in the NBA.

Starting Five:

Andre Iguodala
Louis Williams
Thaddeus Young
Elton Brand
Samuel Dalembert

off the bench:
Andre Miller
Kareem Rush
Donyell Marshall
Speights
Ratliff

[tk76]

I think Iguodala could be the "pg" in the triangle offense (like a Ron Harper with better driving but worse shooting) but I don't think Iguodala can be a conventional pg by any stretch. He just doesn't have the innate PG sills of a taller PG like a Livingston or Magic. He has about as much innate pg skill as Lou.

Since the Sixers won't be runnimg the triangle offense anytime soon, I don't see how Iguodala can be an effective point. Sure he can bring the ball up and call a play- but he can't run a tema, let alone an offense- and this is coming from a supposed Iguodala apologist.

[Sixerscan]

Iguodala plays SG better than anyone on this team.

[SouthJersey]

What are the other options to choose from? Lou Williams? He's been worse than Iguodala. Willie? HAH. Rush? Sure he's shot well, but he's not the defender/ passer Iguodala is.

There needs to be a change, but replacing Iguodala with Rush is just a bad idea. If you wanna take Miller out for Lou then fine, but Iguodala is our starter the whole year. Do you think this team will be better long term replacing him with Rush?

[IversonsMother]

I think Iggy is a sf only at this point.

[AnSweR07]

Start Lou Will. Iggy is a joke of a sg. Trade Miller. That is all.

[STChaser]

I would have to say that given their value to our team, at this point in time, Lou is more valuable than Iguodala. Iguodala is really a poor-man's Thaddeus Young. He's smaller than Young, lacks the post game Young possesses, and doesn't have the natural scoring ability that Young has. Unfortunately, Iguodala is lacks the quick first step enabling him to play the 2 so his only real option is to play the 3 - and at this point, Young is a better SF than Iguodala. I know there's been talk for years now about how Iguodala is a lock-down defender but I just don't see it. I think he's a decent defender but he's no Bruce Bowen as far as I'm concerned. What was impressive last season was Iguodala's leadership skills but with Brand here now, Iguodala becomes somewhat expendable in that area. If I had the option of trading Iguodala straight up for J.R. Smith, I'm pretty sure I make that deal.

What I would do is this: look to trade Iguodala for J.R. Smith and move Miller as well. I would then start Miller at PG and JR at SG - both possess the range to open up the inside for Brand, Sam, and Speights. New lineup:

PG: Lou Williams / Ivy
SG: J.R. Smith / WG
SF: Thaddeus / Rush
PF: Brand / Speights
C: Sam / Ratliff

STChaser

[magee]

*Disregard.

[76ciology]

I would have to say that given their value to our team, at this point in time, Lou is more valuable than Iguodala. Iguodala is really a poor-man's Thaddeus Young. He's smaller than Young, lacks the post game Young possesses, and doesn't have the natural scoring ability that Young has. Unfortunately, Iguodala is lacks the quick first step enabling him to play the 2 so his only real option is to play the 3 - and at this point, Young is a better SF than Iguodala. I know there's been talk for years now about how Iguodala is a lock-down defender but I just don't see it. I think he's a decent defender but he's no Bruce Bowen as far as I'm concerned. What was impressive last season was Iguodala's leadership skills but with Brand here now, Iguodala becomes somewhat expendable in that area. If I had the option of trading Iguodala straight up for J.R. Smith, I'm pretty sure I make that deal.

What I would do is this: look to trade Iguodala for J.R. Smith and move Miller as well. I would then start Miller at PG and JR at SG - both possess the range to open up the inside for Brand, Sam, and Speights. New lineup:

PG: Lou Williams / Ivy
SG: J.R. Smith / WG
SF: Thaddeus / Rush
PF: Brand / Speights
C: Sam / Ratliff

STChaser

That would pose a bigger problem. Perimeter defense.

I still think that Iggy at point and Lou Will at SG is the way to go.

[STChaser]

Problem with using Iguodala at PG is that he lacks the handle and is turnover prone.

STChaser

[76ciology]

Problem with using Iguodala at PG is that he lacks the handle and is turnover prone.

STChaser

This is just my opinion, since we really don't know how Iggy would fair if he plays full time PG. But the reason for this TOs is because he is forcing himself to become a scorer. Like for example, when he drives to the hoop and most of the time it's an offensive foul because he is forcing too much or lacks quickness to create a seperation between him and his defender. Because as a SG, and now with his contract, he has too much pressure in him to score and prove his worth.

My idea of this "let's try to play Iggy at PG" would be Iggy just bringing down the ball then pass it to either Lou or Thad who are running through screens set by our big men. If this won't work, then we call the two men game between Lou or Thad and EB begins. He'll be basically just be playing the role of what Eric Snow used to do back then. Just some conventional PG stuffs, no Chris Paul or Steve Nash ball handling requirements.

He might not be up for this because it's been a while since he last played PG full time. But it would be easier for him to learn this than trying to be someone he's not, a scorer. PG chore seems to be more of a natural for him. For he never was a scorer nor had the personality of a scorer in his entire basketball career.

[sixerswillrule]

What changes when you say put Iggy at PG and Lou at SG? All you're doing is taking away minutes from Miller and giving it to Lou. Big deal. How about we just trade Miller?

And like I've said before, an outside shooting PG would open things up for not only Brand but Iggy as well. With Brand at the high elbow and a PG to go along with Young on the outside, things will be less congested when he drives into the lane. He'll be more effective because he will no longer be forcing things that aren't there.

[Fire BK]

Rush.

He should be getting all of WG's minutes IMO.... And Iggy is simply not a SG.

[LieCheatSteal]

Best SG is still Iggy. His role has changed though from last year (from 1st scoring option to second or even third behind Young). This is an adjustment period for him (and also for the entire team, btw). It always happens when you add a high caliber player like Brand that demands the ball. I think it will take a month or two for everyone to understand their new role. Hell, it took the Sixers until January last year to come around (or, you can make a case that it took a year for them to adapt to Miller and losing Iverson).

However, if you want instant success, but sacrificing the future, you start Willie Green at SG and Brand at the C. Then you get:

C- Brand
PF- Young
SF- Iggy
SG- Green
PG- Miller

Kind of reverts back to last year, upgrading offensively with Brand replacing Dalembert. Could be successful now, more run and gun. More pop with Iggy back to his slasher role, Young to post up role from last year and Green just shooting. However, it's a sacrifice long term because 1) you alienate Dalembert, whose, by in large, is still a headcase, 2) you increase the pounding Young would receive against bigger PFs, 3) you don't make Iggy improve his jumpshot, which he'll need for his eventual return to SG and 4) you see a lot more Willie Green.

So, depends on what you do. Do you try to win now or you try to hold the fort a bit and see if the team can get it together by January, same time last year when they made their run to the playoffs.

[Sixerscan]

Iguodala plays SG better than anyone on this team.

[AnSweR07]

Iguodala plays SG better than anyone on this team.

Iggy can't shoot or finish. He's better suited at small forward or point forward.

[Sixerscan]

Iguodala plays SG better than anyone on this team.

Iggy can't shoot or finish. He's better suited at small forward or point forward.

Sentence number 1 is a gross overstatement and sentence number 2 has nothing to do with what I said.

[jackg27]

I don't like Iggy at the 2 for offensive purposes. I feel like he struggles to create his own shots and his jumper is not where it should be for an upper tier shooting guard. I like him at the two defensively though. I think the best option for the two would probably be Lou, but he is so damn short. Maybe one of the problems with the team is that we lack a true 2 and that could be leading to our poor performances as of late.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Iguodala could create his own shots if he played the way he played with AI here. He took his shots carefully. Got open. He needs to be the Iggy of old.