Ted Thompson Bandwaggon

[Neusch23]

are you on, or are you off?


***NOTE: Be honest. Base your decision off of his body of work with the Packers. We shall bump this a year from now.

[trwi7]

I'll jump on it just so I can knock him off while the wagon is moving.

[DanoMac]

Worst GM in football.

[Wise1]

Off.

[Mags FTW]

I'm driving the wagon.

[LUKE23]

TT can draft well and is a good talent evaluator.

He's terrible in FA.

He takes ZERO RISKS, even small ones.

He's about as personable as Mel Gibson during a traffic stop.



So while he does some good things, I'm definitely off at this point.

[eagle13]

I bashed TT hard after his 1st preseason when I saw his strategy of building for future.

Year 2 backed off as he showed some flexiblity with Pickett and Woodson.

This year he's back to being a wuss. And I even agree with him passing on FAs this year. I don't agree with his concervative approach - BUT if your gonna use that way He's done OK.

Biggest issue I have is he has no balls - he shoulda traded Brett long ago or gone out and got Moss.

I do not like TT but I support him for one more year to prove himself. IF Harrel or Jones or Rouse clearly suck - then TT deserves to get punted.

(I don't mention Jackson because that kid is gonna be fine)

IF TT were a man he'd trade Brett and get ARod out there with the rest of his great Offense.

[deep throat]

are you on, or are you off?


***NOTE: Be honest. Base your decision off of his body of work with the Packers. We shall bump this a year from now.

The question should be are you on board? All aboard!!!!!!! Are you going down with the ship? I think he will go Titanic this year. Not a good off-season, a weird draft, no Moss, not using free agency at all (keeping cap we can't use), Favre pissed, and the Packer Nation smelling blood if they don't have a winning season.

[Neusch23]

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The question should be are you on board? All aboard!!!!!!! Are you going down with the ship? I think he will go Titanic this year. Not a good off-season, a weird draft, no Moss, not using free agency at all (keeping cap we can't use), Favre pissed, and the Packer Nation smelling blood if they don't have a winning season.

I wanted to wait a bit before I posted my opinion, but you can +1 me since our posts would have been very similar.

[livestrong4ever]

What has he done to improve this team?

[deep throat]

What has he done to improve this team?

Free agency wise his big move was picking up a 3rd string CB. In the draft he picked up a DT (not a big need) that has been compared to our own Johnny Jolley, but this guy has a long injury history. He picked up about the 4th -6th highest rated back in a weak RB draft (he lost his job during part of his last season at nebraska). A WR who had a hard time learning the palybook at powerhouse San jose State (2nd team All-WAc woopie!), he picked up a Safety listed by many as a tweener (S/OLB), and a few guys that probably have the best shot at making the team on special teams.

For Favre's last hurrah he is providing the worst TE and RB units in the NFL. A just below average (at best) O-Line. One legitimate WR and about seven question marks.

If Woodson (who has a history of injury) or Harris goes down the defense could be in for a world of hurt.

That's what he did.

[th87]

If one were to mix Sherman and TT together, they'd form a great GM.

[BuckPack]

I think he's done a very good job in the draft and his record in free agency is probably even. I've maintained since the draft that his biggest mistake was/will be trying to short arm the Raiders in acquiring Moss and letting the Pats swoop in at the last minute. While I think that was inexcusable, I don't think it was a fireable offense, nor do I believe that there is much justification for calling for his head.

This is a HUGE year for him--we MUST see some big time improvement, or a step up to the next level-out of his previous years' draft picks, particularly since he puts soooo much weight in the draft. This year, Collins and Hawk must become elite players at their positions. Jennings, Spitz, Colledge, and Poppinga must become more than just solid starters (MAJOR emphasis on Jennings). While they don't need to be Pro Bowlers just yet, they need to be in discussion as top players at their positions. We also need to see one of the young players-Underwood, Culver, Rouse etc.-step in and unseat Manuel at the SS position. This incoming draft class needs to be solid contributors who demonstrate a bright future, with Harrell and Jackson needing to show the most. A-Rod must demonstrate, albeit in the preseason, that he is worthy of being the successor to Favre NEXT year, even if Favre decides to return for one more season (not entirely unlikely).

If all of that doesn't happen, particularly if the last two draft classes(excluding this most recent 07 class) fails to mark SIGNIFICANT improvement, then I think Teddy T will be in some very hot water. At that point, I will jump OFF the bandwagon. But until then, I am on it...the Moss debacle notwithstanding.

[paulpressey25]

I'm off the bandwagon......

I'm not against moving the Favre era on and rebuilding.....and I support TT's drafting and decision to build primarily through the draft rather than make one last run "for Favre"...

.....But other than being a draftnik, I'm not sure this guy has the skills in other areas. He's got to be one of the best draftniks ever to dig out of the holes he creates elsewhere....we'll know in about six-months whether his skills in April are middle of the road or extraordinary.....

[showtimesam]

Everyone would be fine with TT if he had landed moss...
I'm definitely pissed off he didn't pull it off, but I don't think he's a horrible GM, and I like how he's building this team.
Let's all relax and see how this young talent develops this year before we all call for Thompson's head.
Go Pack!

[deep throat]

Everyone would be fine with TT if he had landed moss...
I'm definitely pissed off he didn't pull it off, but I don't think he's a horrible GM, and I like how he's building this team.
Let's all relax and see how this young talent develops this year before we all call for Thompson's head.
Go Pack!

It wasn't JUST Moss. It was drafting an oft injured DT (not a big need) #1. It was reaching for a possession WR in the 3rd. It was a lack of doing anything in free agency of ANY consequence. let's face it, the NFC is as weak as it has EVER been and with some moves they could have at least had a fighting chance. Favre's coments legitimized what a lot of us were thinking. A lot of pro Teddy supporters were saying"how do you know that Favre really wanted Moss...." Now you have your proof.

It's one more year of sucking.

For those of you that are Bucks fans-it looks like we could go from Oden/Durant discussions to McFadden talk in several months. At least we have the Brew Crew.

[El Duderino]

I'm not a fan,nor am i a hater of Thompson

I wish he had bigger balls to makes some moves,i don't believe you need 5-6years in the NFL to become a contender if a GM is good at his job.If though Ted wants to do this almost entirely via draft picks,i'm willing to give him a bit more time to see how his plan works out.

The kids in his draft classes need to start stepping up and being big playmakers.The NFC is a weaker conference and the NFC North is hardly a powerhouse.We'll find out relatively soon if his plan is starting to come together nicely or if it's time to seriously evaluate whether Thompson is better served as an advice giver to a good GM vs him being the GM.

[BuckPack]

this team's depth was oblitterated by Sherman. TT has done a very good job in turning that around--the talent base for this franchise is 100% better than the last few years under Sherman. That takes a few years of good drafts with many picks....that is where TT has done the best.

However, Teddy has yet to add playmakers to this squad, and while a deep, talented roster is a necessity to win ballgames and divisions, the elite playmakers seperate the playoff contenders from the Championship contenders. Under Sherman, we had those type of players- Favre, Walker, Driver, Clifton, Green, Sharper, etc. but lacked the depth around them. Those guys hd us competing year in and year out in the playoffs, but due to a talent dearth around them (particularly on defense), this team inevitably failed. TT has done the opposite--he's built up the overall talent base on the roster, but has yet to unearth elite playmakers ala Sherman/Wolf. If we cannot find/develop a few of these players into being elite players (see Hawk, Jennings, Collins), then TT will have to go. We need to find some difference makers in this lineup--(that was my biggest argument for Moss)--and whether he does that with young players on our existing lineup, or in the 08 draft, it will determine Ted thompson's future here. Next year, this team will not need a draft of 9 picks; instead, I'd rather trade them to move up and grab a few of the elite prospects (i.e. McFadden, Jackson, Sneed, etc.) who will be able to take this team to the next level. In years past, TT has chosen to add depth throughout the roster, rather than gamble on the few elite playmakers at the skill positions (see V. Davis, or trade up for falling AP this year etc.).

I think he has this year and next to show some substantial progress. Due to the difficult of our schedule, I don't think you can say sub .500 and he's gone. If this team competes in all of their games next year. and certain yong players show big time progress, I don't think the # of wins will matter.

[Reggie White]

I am still on the TT bandwagon. I agree that if they had signed Moss then I would feel better. However, after I saw that picture someone posted of Sherman falling asleep at the combine I knew that having a GM who is passionate about player evaluation is what we need.

Sherman lived off the core players that Ron Wolf had found and signed, but never drafted anyone of consequence (except for Javon Walker) or signed a free agent that wasn't already with the Packers. TT had a rebuilding job to do.

If people are so ready to fire him, then I'd like to see their list of replacement candidates. Do we really want to start over ... again ... so soon?

[showtimesam]

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It wasn't JUST Moss. It was drafting an oft injured DT (not a big need) #1. It was reaching for a possession WR in the 3rd. It was a lack of doing anything in free agency of ANY consequence. let's face it, the NFC is as weak as it has EVER been and with some moves they could have at least had a fighting chance. Favre's coments legitimized what a lot of us were thinking. A lot of pro Teddy supporters were saying"how do you know that Favre really wanted Moss...." Now you have your proof.

It's one more year of sucking.

For those of you that are Bucks fans-it looks like we could go from Oden/Durant discussions to McFadden talk in several months. At least we have the Brew Crew.

Its easy to sit back and say he should or shouldn't draft players based on what the media says, but I tend to trust Ted's judgement here.
Sure he may have reached, but what if justin harrel and that 3rd round reciever turn into big time contributors. All of a sudden this team has a young base to work with and thompson can go out and add a big time free agent or two that isn't 30 or a malcontent.
I'll admit, im pissed we didn't get moss, but I just don't see how that suddenly makes TT a crappy gm. Year one (inherited shermans mess) 4-12, last year (8-8). Let's see how this team fares.