Washington Wizards @ Miami Heat 11/14/08

[FreeBalling]

Does QFT = Quit Freaking Talking? LOL.

[miller31time]

Does QFT = Quit Freaking Talking? LOL.

Quoted For Truth.

[JWizmentality]

Does QFT = Quit Freaking Talking? LOL.

When quoting one of hands11's epistles I guess they're interchangeable.

[JWizmentality]

- I think it's best if the Wizards bring McGee along slowly. While he's playing with a lot of energy, I don't think he can maintain that for 30 minutes per game. I think the Wizards should gradually increase McGee's minutes which EJ has been doing. Remember, he is a rookie and the NBA season is much longer than college. If McGee plays 82 games this year, that will be more games than he played in his entire college career. As long as McGee is their at the end of the games, I'm not complaining.

This another thing I don't understand. Why should we baby a guy making millions of dollars. It's his job! Apart from the few traditionalist coaches still around like Sloan, no other coach in the league is pussyfooting with there rookies. In fact, the majority of the coaches would have yanked Etan 3 games ago and McGee would be getting 30mins a game. Is it any wonder why this team has consistently failed to develop big talent? Had it not been for Haywood's injury, Javale would probably be rusting away down in the D-League, then probably not see PT from Eddie within 2 years. I am so sick of watching other teams start their rookies and watch them flourish while we bring them along friggin slowly.

[LyricalRico]

- I think it's best if the Wizards bring McGee along slowly. While he's playing with a lot of energy, I don't think he can maintain that for 30 minutes per game. I think the Wizards should gradually increase McGee's minutes which EJ has been doing. Remember, he is a rookie and the NBA season is much longer than college. If McGee plays 82 games this year, that will be more games than he played in his entire college career. As long as McGee is their at the end of the games, I'm not complaining.

This another thing I don't understand. Why should we baby a guy making millions of dollars. It's his job! Apart from the few traditionalist coaches still around like Sloan, no other coach in the league is pussyfooting with there rookies. In fact, the majority of the coaches would have yanked Etan 3 games ago and McGee would be getting 30mins a game. Is it any wonder why this team has consistently failed to develop big talent? Had it not been for Haywood's injury, Javale would probably be rusting away down in the D-League, then probably not see PT from Eddie within 2 years. I am so sick of watching other teams start their rookies and watch them flourish while we bring them along friggin slowly.

Exactly. Nobody's saying to bring Kevin Love or OJ Mayo along slowly, are they? Just because the 17 teams picking ahead of us whiffed on McGee doesn't mean we should punish ourselves by pretending that he doesn't have blue chip talent. If he's better than our other centers (which he is) then he should be our main man in the middle.

[Kanyewest]

- I think it's best if the Wizards bring McGee along slowly. While he's playing with a lot of energy, I don't think he can maintain that for 30 minutes per game. I think the Wizards should gradually increase McGee's minutes which EJ has been doing. Remember, he is a rookie and the NBA season is much longer than college. If McGee plays 82 games this year, that will be more games than he played in his entire college career. As long as McGee is their at the end of the games, I'm not complaining.

This another thing I don't understand. Why should we baby a guy making millions of dollars. It's his job! Apart from the few traditionalist coaches still around like Sloan, no other coach in the league is pussyfooting with there rookies. In fact, the majority of the coaches would have yanked Etan 3 games ago and McGee would be getting 30mins a game. Is it any wonder why this team has consistently failed to develop big talent? Had it not been for Haywood's injury, Javale would probably be rusting away down in the D-League, then probably not see PT from Eddie within 2 years. I am so sick of watching other teams start their rookies and watch them flourish while we bring them along friggin slowly.

All I'm saying is that the Wizards should slowly increase McGee's minutes. That's all. Kevin Love started the season coming off the bench and slowly eased his way into the starting lineup.

Speaking of Jerry Sloan only played Deron Williams 28 minutes per game in his rookie season and he turned out to be just fine. Sloan only played John freaking Stockton 18 minutes per game in his rookie season.

EJ is just making sure that McGee capable of doing a few things well (i.e. get rebounds and put backs). It's not an uncommon procedure among head coaches. Anybody who thinks McGee is in OJ Mayo's league right now needs to get their head checked. McGee still needs to work on his low post defense and positioning.

McGee is an upgrade over Thomas and EJ has been playing McGee more as of late. Ovver the past 5 games, Etan has only been playing 16 minutes per game while McGee has been playing 22 minutes per game.

If you want McGee to get significant more minutes than that, than you are probably going to cut Andray Blatche's time. While I'm getting tired of Blatche's play, I would say he's now the Wizards's best post defender and the Wizards need to play him at least 15 minutes per game to see what he's got. Hopefully, Blatche can just focus on the little things, score efficiently, and not be a turnover machine.

[Kanyewest]

I share the frustration at the rotation.

But I'm shocked and dismayed at hot crappy Caron was. This is an all-star? This is the guy that hands maintained is the heart and soul of the team, not Gil? Caron's a role player on a top tier team. On nights like last night, he's supposed to carry the Wiz to a win, if not close. Highly unimpressed.

I agree that this is not being emphasized enough. He only had 6 points and no trips to the free throw line. While he had 5 rebounds, he only had 1 assists. I love the guy players like Richard Jefferson and Shawn Marion have been outplaying him. Maybe that blow to the head is affecting his play as of late.

[Kanyewest]

Just to note, Caron Butler is not playing like the 2nd best small forward in the league; at least shown by the numbers.

LeBron James - 28 ppg 7 apg 8 rpg
Danny Granger- 24.3 ppg 2 apg 5 rpg
Kevin Durant - 22ppg 4 rpg 2 apg
Carmelo Anthony - 22 ppg 8 rpg 4 apg
Rudy Gay - 20 ppg 4.6 rpg 1.6 apg
Paul Pierce -20 ppg 7.4 rpg 3.7 apg
Caron Butler - 19.7 ppg 6.4 rpg 3.4 apg

[hands11]

Does QFT = Quit Freaking Talking? LOL.

When quoting one of hands11's epistles I guess they're interchangeable.

And you were just starting to become one of you more favorite posters because you actually
talk sense most the time.

[hands11]

- I think it's best if the Wizards bring McGee along slowly. While he's playing with a lot of energy, I don't think he can maintain that for 30 minutes per game. I think the Wizards should gradually increase McGee's minutes which EJ has been doing. Remember, he is a rookie and the NBA season is much longer than college. If McGee plays 82 games this year, that will be more games than he played in his entire college career. As long as McGee is their at the end of the games, I'm not complaining.

This another thing I don't understand. Why should we baby a guy making millions of dollars. It's his job! Apart from the few traditionalist coaches still around like Sloan, no other coach in the league is pussyfooting with there rookies. In fact, the majority of the coaches would have yanked Etan 3 games ago and McGee would be getting 30mins a game. Is it any wonder why this team has consistently failed to develop big talent? Had it not been for Haywood's injury, Javale would probably be rusting away down in the D-League, then probably not see PT from Eddie within 2 years. I am so sick of watching other teams start their rookies and watch them flourish while we bring them along friggin slowly.

Yeah baby. Can't get on the floor until you pay your rookie dues. Ride the bench until you learn those Princeton Principles. Without that, your 7-6 wing span and athletic nature feel for the game is unless to us. Send him to D League already and please bring back Ruffin. We haven't been the same since he left. He was a center... right. We need a vet center don't we ?

[hands11]

Just to note, Caron Butler is not playing like the 2nd best small forward in the league; at least shown by the numbers.

LeBron James - 28 ppg 8 rpg 7 apg
Carmelo Anthony - 22 ppg 8 rpg 4 apg
Paul Pierce - 20 ppg 7.4 rpg 3.7 apg
Caron Butler - 19.7 ppg 6.4 rpg 3.4 apg
Danny Granger- 24.3 ppg 5 rpg 2 apg
Kevin Durant - 22ppg 4 rpg 2 apg
Rudy Gay - 20 ppg 4.6 rpg 1.6 apg

Actually, using these numbers they rank more like this when you factor in what rebounds and assist count for in pts.

[Kanyewest]

Just to note, Caron Butler is not playing like the 2nd best small forward in the league; at least shown by the numbers.

LeBron James - 28 ppg 8 rpg 7 apg
Carmelo Anthony - 22 ppg 8 rpg 4 apg
Paul Pierce - 20 ppg 7.4 rpg 3.7 apg
Caron Butler - 19.7 ppg 6.4 rpg 3.4 apg
Danny Granger- 24.3 ppg 5 rpg 2 apg
Kevin Durant - 22ppg 4 rpg 2 apg
Rudy Gay - 20 ppg 4.6 rpg 1.6 apg

Actually, using these numbers they rank more like this when you factor in what rebounds and assist count for in pts.

Yeah, that looks about right.

[BanndNDC]

please bring back Ruffin. We haven't been the same since he left. He was a center... right.

actually we haven't. most of our troubles can trace to that fateful day when the entire region turned on Ruffin. Since then we've had nothing but injuries and disappointment.

but hey, who needs circumstantial truth when there's an easy scapegoat in sight. shouldnt you have mentioned Songaila in this current rant? actually you shouldnt have but i kind of expected you to.

[AAEXPRESS]

If the Wiz get blown out again by the Heat in the next game, its time to proclaim the sky if falling. Even when Gil gets back, he will not help our pourous defense. This season is close to being over before it gets started.

[dobrojim]

I think some of you folks are missing the issue re the starting lineup and McGee
or N1 for that matter. It's not where our youngin's are compared to OJ or Love
or whoever, it's how they are compared to the guys who's minutes they would
be taking. After UT, I thought it would be fine to continue to start ET since McGee
played 2x as much as he did. But vs MIA, EJ had a severe brain fart and reversed
those proportions in the first half. To me it's far less about who starts than how much
they play. Thing was though when MIA made their put the game away run, ET
was sitting. It wasn't on him. He didn't play in the 2nd half IIRC. That doesn't
excuse the first half but is worth pointing out.

With De-Brick, I'd give him a little more rope to hang himself with before
starting N1 even though I think the writing is plainly on the wall there.
De-brick could suddenly become de-swish, at least for a game here or there.
And DS could play with N1 as we saw vs UT.

[WizarDynasty]

biggest problem with javale is that he doesn't pay attention to someone banging his knees against an inferior athletic sub player...and he doesn't know that once he gets an injury to his knees, his passion for the game will drop.
Problem with blatche is that he doesn't have any body control when he is sprinting and dribbling. And that is apparent that he doesn't work on executing close range hakeem moves with a hand in his face, he misses way to many close shots to the basket which means he doesn't hire someone focus on him shooting with a hand in his face.

[hands11]

I think some of you folks are missing the issue re the starting lineup and McGee
or N1 for that matter. It's not where our youngin's are compared to OJ or Love
or whoever, it's how they are compared to the guys who's minutes they would
be taking. After UT, I thought it would be fine to continue to start ET since McGee
played 2x as much as he did. But vs MIA, EJ had a severe brain fart and reversed
those proportions in the first half. To me it's far less about who starts than how much
they play. Thing was though when MIA made their put the game away run, ET
was sitting. It wasn't on him. He didn't play in the 2nd half IIRC. That doesn't
excuse the first half but is worth pointing out.

With De-Brick, I'd give him a little more rope to hang himself with before
starting N1 even though I think the writing is plainly on the wall there.
De-brick could suddenly become de-swish, at least for a game here or there.
And DS could play with N1 as we saw vs UT.

How many minutes they get and with WHOM

The beauty of the Utah game was - even though EFJ didn't start the players I wanted - EFJ rotated them so that McGee was on the court with lots of good line ups. I was wetting myself. Not just one good line up but all of these. All in ONE GAME. It was like invasion of the EFJ snatchers. Who was that masked man.

McGee, AJ, CB, NY and DS then
McGee, AJ, CB, NY and Dixon then
McGee, AB, AJ, NY and DS then
McGee, AB, AJ, CB, NY and DS then
McGee, AB, CB, NY and Dixon then

It was like he was reading a script from one of my posts.

Sadly, EFJ stayed up late the next few nights celebrating by hitting the pipe and completely forgot what he did on the night he got his 1 and only win.

Seriously. Who thinks EFJ likes to smoke a little Mojo. I defiantly thing he does. Not that that's a bad thing. Just saying.

[hands11]

biggest problem with javale is that he doesn't pay attention to someone banging his knees against an inferior athletic sub player...and he doesn't know that once he gets an injury to his knees, his passion for the game will drop.
Problem with blatche is that he doesn't have any body control when he is sprinting and dribbling. And that is apparent that he doesn't work on executing close range hakeem moves with a hand in his face, he misses way to many close shots to the basket which means he doesn't hire someone focus on him shooting with a hand in his face.

You mean like when he was out of control going coast-to-coast with AK47 in his back pocket right before he scored on him.

[WizBiz]

biggest problem with javale is that he doesn't pay attention to someone banging his knees against an inferior athletic sub player...and he doesn't know that once he gets an injury to his knees, his passion for the game will drop.
Problem with blatche is that he doesn't have any body control when he is sprinting and dribbling. And that is apparent that he doesn't work on executing close range hakeem moves with a hand in his face, he misses way to many close shots to the basket which means he doesn't hire someone focus on him shooting with a hand in his face.

You mean like when he was out of control going coast-to-coast with AK47 in his back pocket right before he scored on him.

That was like the first time ever that Blatche actually finished a 1-on-1 fast break, or any fast break for that matter. Blatche is normally how WizarDynasty described him.