What do you think Danny Ainge is Thinking

return2glory · Post #1 » by **return2glory** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:11 am

Danny Ainge can't seem too happy about this team, despite a 9-2 record. This is not the same team that started 29-3 and was blowing out teams.

Is Ainge:
1. Kicking himself for not re signing James Posey?
2. Does he feel he made a mistake in counting on Tony Allen?
3. Does he regret drafting JR Giddens?
4. Is he interested in going after McDyess?

I personally think letting Posey go was a huge mistake. Ainge was thinging more about what would happen 4 years from now instead on what's best for the team now.

Giddens can be decent but lacks offense from what I've seen. I wish we can somehow get McDyess. I'm also grateful for Danny Ainge and trust in him to improve this team. Does anyone know if Ainge will be on the radio any time soon?

Ed Pinkney · Post #2 » by **Ed Pinkney** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:34 am

We are 9-2 and it is November. Relax.

Harison · Post #3 » by **Harison** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:25 pm

Lets not overreact, its still very early in the season and Celtics went through rough shedule already. After some resting and sorting out through issues, team will be working hard to fix those problems. I'm pretty sure inteligent guys like Ainge and Doc already have plan in works, either through getting McDyess, or wider trade is coming up during regular season to get another decent player to our roster.

cfan79 · Post #4 » by **cfan79** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:10 pm

Hopefully Marijuana gets legalized because some people need it to relax their hemorrhoids. I've never seen people so upset over a 9 and 2 start. The C's are the cats pajamas and the bee's knees all rolled into one.

But, I will say this about Danny. He does want Mcdyess like no man has ever wanted a man before.

Kefa461 · Post #5 » by **Kefa461** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:11 pm

It's early.....We've got plenty of time to fine tune things...

Last year this time

10-1 7 home games.....4 away games.....a plus 13 diff with 1 OT victory

This year

9-2 6 home games...5 away games.....a plus 4 diff with 1 OT victory

I've lost Posey and PJ Brown....I have new players and another year of experience with Rondo and Perk. Not so bad. No need to panic.

BTW.....do you know of any team in NBA history to win the title with a starting PG and C under the age of 24 both????? I can't find any..ever until last year. 8-)

Havlicek17 · Post #6 » by **Havlicek17** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:31 pm

I think Danny's thinking...Whew, that was a tough stretch of games, but we came through it 7 and 1.
Although Rondo had a tough stretch, the bench play was inconsistent, and we likely need another proven veteran or two in order to get us through the second half and playoff time. It's not yet time to panic.

If I were Danny, I'd be looking to pick up a veteran big and maybe another scoring option for the bench. The window of opportunity is between now and the all star game, so we can have time to integrate them into our system and flow.

Danny is making a run at McDyess, who would be a great addition and a great move because it would cause Detroit to lose a valuable piece of their roster for the 2nd half as well. If that doesn't work, there will be others who will end up on the trading block or released before the allstar game, so I am not worried yet.

Does OKC need 8 bigs on the roster, with their record? Joe Smith, anyone? PJ comes back for one more run? Anyone want a chance at a championship out there? I think there are plenty of veteran players who do.

This is no time to panic. We've got some holes but we have until the allstar game to fill them and there will be options.

N-V-da-Green · Post #7 » by **N-V-da-Green** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:04 pm

DA is doing a hell of a job and shouldnt be worried! However, he does need to do some work to make us better than last year. I think we need Mcdyess with his range and pick and pop would add a vital option to the bench. With Leon banging down low Mcdyess can keep the other big out the paint more room for Leon. Then a pick and roll with him and House could be crazy tough to guard both can set back and jack it!. He also needs to find a way sit Paul and Ray down more. Does that mean get another vet or have Doc work Scal in more or if Walker can bust through and get some mins.

**** Posey he was great but he was like all other players rather make a couple more millions and not be a Champ again or play on a team and town that loves u good or bad. Dude really left for a few more zero in front of a decimal. I know its a business but how much money do u really need he is already a millionare!

So DA is fine and this team will be fine just needs some fine tuning thats all. dont worry guys just get ready for 18!

Red2 · Post #8 » by **Red2** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:11 pm

Danny did not put this team in a position to repeat.Worrying about what posey will cost us 4 years from now when we have a chance to win another title is stupid. Our window is now. I thought that move determined our whole offseason. If we keep Posey then we certainly don't draft giddens AND Walker. Clearly those guys were drafted to offset the loss of posey at the backup small forward position. He also thought Leon would step in as the backup 4. While that is still a work in progress Leon has yet to demonstrate that he can perform consistently at the 4/5. If we had intended to keep Posey Danny could have drafted a big man or a shooter with the 30 pick. I love walker as a 2nd rounder so no issue there and the Big Turk might help next year. BUt the problem is that we need help now. POB was a low cost, low risk roll of the dice so I'm ok with that move. the kid will need a year of conditioning, training and just learning what it means to play hard before he can help us but that move may pan out down the road. Again though, as with Giddens and Walker those are moves for the future and are not helping us now. Cassell was another strange move. What exactly is his role?? Rondo's babysitter as conjectured by Bill Simmons? God, I hope not. He showed us nothing last year so why is he on the roster. I'm ok with re-signing Eddie but he has way too big a role on this team right now. He is turnover prone and he takes too many bad shots. I'm ok with eddie as the 3rd or 4th option on the second but not as the first option whichis what he is right now. Tyrone Lue got it right when he said that the Celts panicked when they signed House. If you believe Lue Danny tried to get him BEFORE House so what does that tell you about how successful our off season was? Finally we get to Tony Allen. He is the dumbest player in the NBA and had we signed Posey Tony was history. In his defense he hasn't played badly this year but after that one 23 point explosion he hasn't done much. He stil commits dumb fouls and turnovers and he can't shoot a lick from the outside which is why teams are now playing him for the drive. He is undersized at small forward and not a good enough shooter at the 2. All of this media spin about how he can replaced Posey is just a bunch of drivel. He comes now where close to replacing Posey. And that leaves Scal. I could write a book on how bad he is but let's just say he is Danny's biggest mistake as a GM and he continues to haunt us 4 years after signing him. Danny did nothing to address our lack of size and right now Powe and Davis are getting out rebounded and scored upon on a nightly basis. So in answer to your question I don't think Danny is thinking too much. He he were we wouldn't be sitting here with a bench that is undersized and can't score.

Fencer reregistered · Post #9 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:23 pm

He's probably thinking that Perk/Garnett/Pierce/Allen/Rondo/Powe/Allen/House are up and down -- mainly up -- just as he would have thought.

He still needs a second big man who can play no-apologies defense and hit a mid-range jumpshot, like PJ Brown or McDyess, with none of Davis, Scal, or POB seeming very convincing in that role.

cfan79 · Post #10 » by **cfan79** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:30 pm

I can live with Baby and Powe at the backup big spots, if we can bring in a tall small forward (mcdyess). Tony is just too small to cover 6 ft 7 wingplayers.

Fencer reregistered · Post #11 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:38 pm

cfan79 wrote:I can live with Baby and Powe at the backup big spots, if we can bring in a tall small forward (mcdyess). Tony is just too small to cover 6 ft 7 wingplayers.

Which have gone off on him? And in an emergency, why can't Ray cover them?

Post #12 » by **ParticleMan** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:40 pm

man, the Posey crowd just won't quit, will they?

Do we have to hear this the ENTIRE season, after every loss, even after every win that wasn't a blowout?

waaa, we miss Posey, we need Posey, we'll never win anything without Posey, waaa.

seriously, you'd think the guy was an MVP candidate. when in reality he was a backup SF/PF who had one of the worst stats on the team. woo, he hit a couple of clutch shots. yay for him. the idea that we're suddenly not a championship team because we lost a backup forward is beyond ludicrous. We will win with our Big 3, or lose with our Big 3. When our Big 3 actually decide to play all out for 48 mins or however long they play, instead of in spurts, then we will blow out teams again. Personally, I'd rather have the Big 3 relax for now, and then not be overhyped and overtired come playoff time like we were last year.

Post #13 » by **canman1971** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:45 pm

Boo hoo. I get so tired of people just looking to be negative. It is November! They are 9-2! Relax, go for a walk or something. It really is pathetic.

cfan79 · Post #14 » by **cfan79** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:50 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:
Which have gone off on him? And in an emergency, why can't Ray cover them?

If we are playing both Allen's we still would have a height disadvantage. With our small bigs we need a little more height. Rondo and Tony seem like they are allowing for the drive too much by the men they are covering.

humblebum · Post #15 » by **humblebum** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:58 pm

I think that Danny Ainge looks at this like anyone worth their salt in management looks at their team. They have room to improve internally and externally, through trades or free agency. Danny has faith in the coaching staff that leads him to believe that the team will improve interally throughout the season. And he plans on diligently surfing the waiver wire to look at potential FA additions who he believes could help the team a la McDyess.

Record-wise Danny is most likely pleased and is looking forward to finishing the busy part of the schedule when the team will be able to get some practices in. He's not anywhere near satisfied (he wasn't last year either (see Cassell, PJ). His expectations are high and he's hopeful/confident that come playoffs they'll be a contender (which is his main goal).

That's what Danny is thinking.

rambo_ortega · Post #16 » by **rambo_ortega** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:05 pm

it's just that we don't look dominating or maybe the opponents know how to play us now compared to last year. Nevertheless, we have to look to improve if we are having a hard time with those wins. i definitely think that and athletic, defensive and long sf would be really helpful to us. let's trade giddens, walker or big baby then try to play pruitt.

Kefa461 · Post #17 » by **Kefa461** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:05 pm

canman1971 wrote:Boo hoo. I get so tired of people just looking to be negative. It is November! They are 9-2! Relax, go for a walk or something. It really is pathetic.

Well said

Kefa461 · Post #18 » by **Kefa461** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:11 pm

ParticleMan wrote:man, the Posey crowd just won't quit, will they?

Do we have to hear this the ENTIRE season, after every loss, even after every win that wasn't a blowout?

waaa, we miss Posey, we need Posey, we'll never win anything without Posey, waaa.

seriously, you'd think the guy was an MVP candidate. when in reality he was a backup SF/PF who had one of the worst stats on the team. woo, he hit a couple of clutch shots. yay for him. the idea that we're suddenly not a championship team because we lost a backup forward is beyond ludicrous. We will win with our Big 3, or lose with our Big 3. When our Big 3 actually decide to play all out for 48 mins or however long they play, instead of in spurts, then we will blow out teams again. Personally, I'd rather have the Big 3 relax for now, and then not be overhyped and overtired come playoff time like we were last year.

I am with you,
The Hornets are really burning up the West with Posey right.....5-4.....so everything takes time 8-)

kakopedi1 · Post #19 » by **kakopedi1** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:22 pm

Ainge is thinking how can I get in the GS/NJ trade rumor(Beli for Sean Williams).

I want Boone or Williams.

Other than that C's are in good shape.

ryaningf · Post #20 » by **ryaningf** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:36 pm

Ainge is thinking about how to improve the team, which is something he's always thinking about. Per his recent interview on CSN, he doesn't think the team has as much urgency as last year. Try as he might, there's nothing much he can do about that one--that's on the players, and you gotta think they'll figure it out. But respecting the process is under Doc's domain, not Danny's. And that's this team's main problem right now.

Per Posey: in no way is he second-guessing himself. He had a plan and stuck to it. Tony Allen has been a bargain and will only improve in the next 2 months. He's had a few bad games (last night he just didn't score, but otherwise he played well) in the 8 games in 12 nights stretch, but otherwise he's been very solid.