"I've had enough" postgame thread.

[dougthonus]

Someone comes over here and makes a comment that's right, and it's considered trolling? Okay then. Touchy bunch for sure.

You're trolling too, and if I were a mod here, like I am on the Bulls forum, I'd also give you a warning about it.

Neither one of you came to discuss the game or the loss, but to make fun of the fanbase who is upset about the lost. That's the difference between trolling and posting. What purpose does your post here serve? Does it discuss football or the Bears in any way? No, it's a direct attack on the fanbase.

Trolling.

[Cliff Levingston]

Cliff Levingston isn't worked up about the loss as many people here are. Yea it sucked, but every team is going to have a bad, even dreadful game here and there. Really, what more did we learn that we didn't already know?

- Our receivers are pretty bad? Already knew that.
- Forte is really good? Already knew that.
- Tight Ends are really good? Yep, already knew that.
- Defense can't defend the pass? Yep, we've proved that all season.
- Defense can't rush the passer? Nothing new there.
- Questionable game management from the coach? Definitely not anything we're not used to there already.

The only thing that was out of character for this team this year was the defense not being able to stop the run in quite a surprising way. Really though, it was a perfect storm of sucktitude on both sides of the ball and we couldn't expect Orton with his still sprained ankle to make that big of a difference.

Maybe it's just that Cliff Levingston hasn't been all that high on the Bears at all this season. Cliff Levingston expected this offense to be historically bad coming into the season, so seeing them lay an egg one game isn't that big of a surprise. They just so happened to lay an egg the same time the defense did and you end up with what happened yesterday.

This team needs a rangy safety more than anything else right now. Our zone happy defensive scheme is absolute crap if you don't have safeties who can cover someone especially when you're not getting any pressure on the QB. Cliff Levingston really wishes we still had Rivera about now.

[Chewie]

Cliff Levingston isn't worked up about the loss as many people here are. Yea it sucked, but every team is going to have a bad, even dreadful game here and there. Really, what more did we learn that we didn't already know?

- Our receivers are pretty bad? Already knew that.
- Forte is really good? Already knew that.
- Tight Ends are really good? Yep, already knew that.
- Defense can't defend the pass? Yep, we've proved that all season.
- Defense can't rush the passer? Nothing new there.
- Questionable game management from the coach? Definitely not anything we're not used to there already.

The only thing that was out of character for this team this year was the defense not being able to stop the run in quite a surprising way. Really though, it was a perfect storm of sucktitude on both sides of the ball and we couldn't expect Orton with his still sprained ankle to make that big of a difference.

Maybe it's just that Cliff Levingston hasn't been all that high on the Bears at all this season. Cliff Levingston expected this offense to be historically bad coming into the season, so seeing them lay an egg one game isn't that big of a surprise. They just so happened to lay an egg the same time the defense did and you end up with what happened yesterday.

This team needs a rangy safety more than anything else right now. Our zone happy defensive scheme is absolute crap if you don't have safeties who can cover someone especially when you're not getting any pressure on the QB. Cliff Levingston really wishes we still had Rivera about now.

Leave it to Cliff to keep it in perspective. Only snap judgments allowed here, CL!! I admit I predicted the Bears to be either 5-11 or 6-10 so I should be happy with the current record. That being said, after I saw we had a real QB on our hands, I got greedy and wanted more. The needs on defense are many but the need for some speed at safety is big. The need for any semblance of a pass rush is even bigger.

I'll add that the fact that opposing teams know an inside slant route at the goal line is an automatic TD is mind numbingly difficult to comprehend.

[The Sheik]

I think I agree with both of you and I also think your both right. This season has sucked though because we have been in every game, but the last one. We have lost 3 games we should have won and it seems to be a recurring thing with the bears that we cant lock in and take care of business that we always choke.

Its nice to see Kyle come into his own and Olsen too. Its great to see Forte erase our memories of Benson. We just need to upgrade the secondary this off-season and I have no idea WTF happened to Tommie Harris...but our pass rush sucks.

[Sinistar6]

As for the trolling part, Its just tough to have someone come in after a debilitating loss and stick the knife further in...

I'm not persecuting because I have done this before (esp after the bulls swept the heat) but looking back upon it I would like to think I have grown.

Also I believe in Karma and I think we play again. Not that it matters unless our money players step up. I guess we could play spoiler.

Its funny how on both the Bears and Bulls we have all league rookies and no team to complement them.

[DanTown8587]

Kinda said earlier the Bears are an 8-8 team with Orton because he is solid, but won't really win a game he isn't supposed to or carry an entire team. That is why I think he needs to be upgraded. With an above average defense, all you need is a QB that can not lose games. But if your defense is gonna be this bad, you need a QB who can change the outcome of games and as much as people love Kyle, the Bears are 4-4 in games he starts/finishes. I am not saying to not bring Kyle back, all I am saying is don't go into the off-season and say that the QB position is fine when it isn't.

And another thing, this team needs at least three WR. Right now we have this type of core (if slotted correctly)
3rd WR Lloyd
Gadget Guy Hester
5th WR/Spec Team Davis
Out of Job: Booker

So with that being said, I think we need to get a #1 receiver at least and a #2 couldn't hurt.

And Williams needs to start. St CLair isn't some world beater keeping the guys at bay, so why not go with the guy you invested in and can get valuable experience playing the final six games.

[Chewie]

Kinda said earlier the Bears are an 8-8 team with Orton because he is solid, but won't really win a game he isn't supposed to or carry an entire team. That is why I think he needs to be upgraded. With an above average defense, all you need is a QB that can not lose games. But if your defense is gonna be this bad, you need a QB who can change the outcome of games and as much as people love Kyle, the Bears are 4-4 in games he starts/finishes. I am not saying to not bring Kyle back, all I am saying is don't go into the off-season and say that the QB position is fine when it isn't.

And another thing, this team needs at least three WR. Right now we have this type of core (if slotted correctly)
3rd WR Lloyd
Gadget Guy Hester
5th WR/Spec Team Davis
Out of Job: Booker

So with that being said, I think we need to get a #1 receiver at least and a #2 couldn't hurt.

And Williams needs to start. St CLair isn't some world beater keeping the guys at bay, so why not go with the guy you invested in and can get valuable experience playing the final six games.

I swear everytime I see your user name, "Funkytown" starts playing in my head.

I think KO's performance prior to the GB game was nothing short of awesome especially given the average WR talent around him. Your attitude was as mine was when the season started - I saw Orton as a game manager and certainly not someone that could do anything once we were behind on the scoreboard - a mere placeholder until we could find better. I've seen enough games this year to make me a believer in Orton, though. I'll give him a pass on this past week coming back from injury. He'll be given every chance to solidify himself as the uncontested QB going into camp next year. Starting over at QB is a painful, painful process and one I thought we'd have to undergo in the '09 draft. I don't think that anymore. The game has clearly slowed down for him this year - he's hitting guys in stride, managing the no-huddle well, and avoiding the INTs. Should Neckbeard finish the season the way he started it, I see no reason to knock ourselves out looking for better.

I'm with you on the need for a #1 WR but I think Davis or Lloyd (if he gets his head on straight) could fill the #2 spot just fine with Hester as the #3. The needs all over the defense probably outweigh the receiver concerns in my book.

[CBS7]

Kinda said earlier the Bears are an 8-8 team with Orton because he is solid, but won't really win a game he isn't supposed to or carry an entire team. That is why I think he needs to be upgraded. With an above average defense, all you need is a QB that can not lose games. But if your defense is gonna be this bad, you need a QB who can change the outcome of games and as much as people love Kyle, the Bears are 4-4 in games he starts/finishes. I am not saying to not bring Kyle back, all I am saying is don't go into the off-season and say that the QB position is fine when it isn't.

And another thing, this team needs at least three WR. Right now we have this type of core (if slotted correctly)
3rd WR Lloyd
Gadget Guy Hester
5th WR/Spec Team Davis
Out of Job: Booker

So with that being said, I think we need to get a #1 receiver at least and a #2 couldn't hurt.

And Williams needs to start. St CLair isn't some world beater keeping the guys at bay, so why not go with the guy you invested in and can get valuable experience playing the final six games.

Are you watching the same team I've been watching? I don't see Orton has a guy who won't win you games but won't make mistakes anymore. He has played outstanding football and was possibly on his way to a pro bowl before the injury.

The QB position is fine. Especially when you consider how many other glaring weaknesses we have. And how Orton's play this year was without any good WRs...

If we had the same ol same ol QB production as the last 10 years we'd probably be 1-9.

[NoSkyy]

Should we start having a draft thread? I'm thinking it's almost unanonymous now that we need a DE, WR, Safety, and OLmen.

[batman_crip14]

Kinda said earlier the Bears are an 8-8 team with Orton because he is solid, but won't really win a game he isn't supposed to or carry an entire team. That is why I think he needs to be upgraded. With an above average defense, all you need is a QB that can not lose games. But if your defense is gonna be this bad, you need a QB who can change the outcome of games and as much as people love Kyle, the Bears are 4-4 in games he starts/finishes. I am not saying to not bring Kyle back, all I am saying is don't go into the off-season and say that the QB position is fine when it isn't.

And another thing, this team needs at least three WR. Right now we have this type of core (if slotted correctly)
3rd WR Lloyd
Gadget Guy Hester
5th WR/Spec Team Davis
Out of Job: Booker

So with that being said, I think we need to get a #1 receiver at least and a #2 couldn't hurt.

And Williams needs to start. St CLair isn't some world beater keeping the guys at bay, so why not go with the guy you invested in and can get valuable experience playing the final six games.

Are you watching the same team I've been watching? I don't see Orton has a guy who won't win you games but won't make mistakes anymore. He has played outstanding football and was possibly on his way to a pro bowl before the injury.

The QB position is fine. Especially when you consider how many other glaring weaknesses we have. And how Orton's play this year was without any good WRs...

If we had the same ol same ol QB production as the last 10 years we'd probably be 1-9.

I've been saying that about Kyle Orton all along, its obviously I'm not the only one. Isn't it weird that in college he was being hyped for Heisman and then got hurt, played 1 bad game after coming back and couldn't rebound himself into that Heismen-Hyped QB. I'm not making a complete prediction of saying he will continue to play bad after this GB game(he should sit if he isn't healthy), but he was in a similar situation in college.

[Howling Mad]

I've been saying that about Kyle Orton all along, its obviously I'm not the only one. Isn't it weird that in college he was being hyped for Heisman and then got hurt, played 1 bad game after coming back and couldn't rebound himself into that Heismen-Hyped QB. I'm not making a complete prediction of saying he will continue to play bad after this GB game(he should sit if he isn't healthy), but he was in a similar situation in college.

...Seriously?!?!?!

Well if we're going with that theory, why don't we sit him for a couple years?

It's undeniable that he improved after riding the pine for almost two years, why don't we sit him for 4 years, just think how good he'll be then.

[batman_crip14]

I've been saying that about Kyle Orton all along, its obviously I'm not the only one. Isn't it weird that in college he was being hyped for Heisman and then got hurt, played 1 bad game after coming back and couldn't rebound himself into that Heismen-Hyped QB. I'm not making a complete prediction of saying he will continue to play bad after this GB game(he should sit if he isn't healthy), but he was in a similar situation in college.

...Seriously?!?!?!

Well if we're going with that theory, why don't we sit him for a couple years?

It's undeniable that he improved after riding the pine for almost two years, why don't we sit him for 4 years, just think how good he'll be then.

i love you too buddy :

[Howling Mad]