Perk has to get suspended by the team

aboubata · Post #1 » by **aboubata** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:27 am

If doc (or danny) is serious about getting these guys back on track, they have to discipline Perk.

You want to be tough fine, but this isn't hockey and you can't go out there to start a fight every single game.

There has to be a DNP-Coach decision very very soon.

MaxwellSmart · Post #2 » by **MaxwellSmart** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:51 am

Don't worry--at the rate he's going,he's gonna get suspended by the league---he has like 8 techs already.

Post #3 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:52 am

They definitely need to bring it up. I wouldn't suspend him without warning him first.

Dogen · Post #4 » by **Dogen** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:54 am

Suspend our starting center? No thanks.

FakeScreenName123 · Post #5 » by **FakeScreenName123** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:01 am

lock/suspend this thread.

aboubata · Post #6 » by **aboubata** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:06 am

FakeScreenName123 wrote:lock/suspend this thread.

dude, if KG is calming you down, then there is a real major issue. I love Perk, but something has to be done.

Post #7 » by **ParticleMan** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:08 am

not sure suspending him is the right move, but something has to happen.
i think a good talking to from KG, PP and Ray might get the message across.
he just has to commit to playing 1 game without saying a word or gesturing to anyone. just one.

Post #8 » by **sully00** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:16 am

Look KG just missed a game becuase of someone taking liberties with Garnett and him retaliating. While not having Perk is a loss it isn't the same as not having KG. This may impact him personally but he is not hurting the team. I don't like the jawing techs because it doesn't accomplish anything, but the ones like tonight on Maxiel are fine until it becomes a real issue with the league. It is like Rodney Harrison it keeps guys head's on swivel when they start getting physical.

Jammer · Post #9 » by **Jammer** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:18 am

Perk has 7 technicals in 13 games.

4 more and Perk gets suspended for a game.

Then, it's like a suspension for every two technicals or something like that,
although the totals reset back to zero for the playoffs,
but then you get suspended after like 5 technicals or so.

MVP16 · Post #10 » by **MVP16** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:40 am

Jammer wrote:Perk has 7 technicals in 13 games.

4 more and Perk gets suspended for a game.

Then, it's like a suspension for every two technicals or something like that,
although the totals reset back to zero for the playoffs,
but then you get suspended after like 5 technicals or so.

I think you start getting suspended at 16 technical fouls, so Perk is 9 away. He has to be smarter, but suspending him is way over the top. You don't want to suspend him and for Perk to lose his aggressiveness fearing that if he gets another T that he'll be suspended again. I'm sure as Perk starts getting closer to that 16 technical number, he is going to take notice and calm down on the technicals. If Perk gets to that 16 number and the Ts cause him to get suspended by the league, then some action is necessary. Right now, nothing to seriously worry about.

Jammer · Post #11 » by **Jammer** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:06 am

MVP16 wrote:
Jammer wrote:Perk has 7 technicals in 13 games.

4 more and Perk gets suspended for a game.

Then, it's like a suspension for every two technicals or something like that,
although the totals reset back to zero for the playoffs,
but then you get suspended after like 5 technicals or so.

I think you start getting suspended at 16 technical fouls, so Perk is 9 away. He has to be smarter, but suspending him is way over the top. You don't want to suspend him and for Perk to lose his aggressiveness fearing that if he gets another T that he'll be suspended again. I'm sure as Perk starts getting closer to that 16 technical number, he is going to take notice and calm down on the technicals. If Perk gets to that 16 number and the Ts cause him to get suspended by the league, then some action is necessary. Right now, nothing to seriously worry about.

You're correct.

That's what I get for listening to some guy on TV.

So, Perk is 9 technicals away from a one game suspension, with a 1 game suspension for every other technical (18, 20) after 16.

In the playoffs, however, you get suspended for game for the
7th Playoff Technical and every other (9, 11) technical after that.

Pogue Mahone · Post #12 » by **Pogue Mahone** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:21 am

The one tonight was him sending a message to Maxiell to knock the **** off. Maxiell came down hard on the follow through into Pierce, after the whistle blew and Pierce had already been fouled. Sure, Maxiell should try to block the shot but his extracurricular stuff was excessive. Perkins was sticking up for his teammate.

Later in the game, with Perkins out, Maxiell was again excessive with the contact after a block attempt. Big Burger Davis just stood there with a cockengob look on his face, apparently oblivious to everything.

I am perfectly fine with Perkins doing that. In fact, I think he should really lay someone out, take the game or two off courtesy of Emperor Stern and Darth Jackson. Then play it cool because any opponent who even considers the excessive crap will have a fresh thought of 270 lbs of beastliness doing the Watusi on an agitator's grill.

Enforcers need to be allowed to enforce; it's part of their job description. It's a physical game and when an opponent oversteps the bounds of acceptable contact, someone on the team needs to step forward and protect his more talented teammates with equally aggressive contact.

Now, while shoving the man directly after the play may seem crude, it did send a message. Really, though, if Big Burger had undercut Maxiell on box-out, it would have been equally effective.

Sometimes, players need to take things into their own hands because you know the Violet Palmers and Dick Bavettas of the world are fairly oblivious to the nuances of what is occurring on the floor.

Bad-Thoma · Post #13 » by **Bad-Thoma** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:27 am

Perk needs to be suspended by the team? *snickers* Thanks, I was feeling down and needed something to laugh about.

Kefa461 · Post #14 » by **Kefa461** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:52 pm

aboubata wrote:If doc (or danny) is serious about getting these guys back on track, they have to discipline Perk.

You want to be tough fine, but this isn't hockey and you can't go out there to start a fight every single game.

There has to be a DNP-Coach decision very very soon.

Stop the insanity 8-)

GWVan · Post #15 » by **GWVan** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:59 pm

aboubata wrote:If doc (or danny) is serious about getting these guys back on track, they have to discipline Perk.

You want to be tough fine, but this isn't hockey and you can't go out there to start a fight every single game.

There has to be a DNP-Coach decision very very soon.

Good golly, we should stop keeping score so none of the players get their feelings hurt too.

Jungle Jim says "Howdy"

Oh and as far as "getting back on track"
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings

MyInsatiableOne · Post #16 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:08 pm

While I'm not sure he needs to be suspended, it does need to be addressed...there's being aggressive and then there's being stupid about it:

from RedsArmy.com (http://redsarmy.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/perk-aint-changin-for-no-one/):

"Kendrick Perkins is… how do you say… intense. That intensity leads him to get into some dust-ups and pick up some technical fouls. Some might consider that problem. Perk is not one of them.

“I love it,” Perkins said of the intensity that fuels him and his team. “I love how we fight and how we’re competing. Every game is like a playoff game. Guys are giving us our best shots, and we’re pushing forward.”

Doc Rivers, however, doesn’t love it.

“He has not listened to me so far,” Rivers said of Perkins. “He’s the one guy I think emotionally when he starts getting involved with other guys and getting techs, it affects his game. He has to be better at that. He still doesn’t understand that just because a guy is trash-talking to you, not talking to him is a sure strength more than responding. What do you need to respond for? Just play.”

I agree with Doc wholeheartedly. He needs to cut this **** out...

Prophet_C · Post #17 » by **Prophet_C** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:40 pm

GWVan wrote:
aboubata wrote:If doc (or danny) is serious about getting these guys back on track, they have to discipline Perk.

You want to be tough fine, but this isn't hockey and you can't go out there to start a fight every single game.

There has to be a DNP-Coach decision very very soon.

Good golly, we should stop keeping score so none of the players get their feelings hurt too.

Jungle Jim says "Howdy"

Oh and as far as "getting back on track"
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings

Willie Beamen · Post #18 » by **Willie Beamen** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:47 pm

I have no problem with Perkins getting Technical Fouls. For one Perkins Ts haven't really hurt the team, in fact they seem to bring some much needed energy to the team. Also I think behind close doors Doc and Danny doesn't mind Perk getting a Technical Foul but he can't get one every game. Last season Kobe Bryant lead the league in Technical fouls did you hear the Lakers fan talking about how the Lakers should suspend Kobe? Heck no! So I don't understand some of you be calling for Perkins to get suspended by his own team for too many technicals.

Tricky Ricky · Post #19 » by **Tricky Ricky** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:25 pm

Dogen wrote:Suspend our starting center? No thanks.

Perk is a Beast

CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #20 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:32 pm

He needs to calm down. It's only going to be a matter of time before other players start baiting Perk into confrontations. And when you get into enough confrontations, one day, punches are eventually going to be thrown. This team can't afford to lose Perk for 10+ games due to a lengthy suspension.

He's also getting a reputation amongst league officials too. He'll be prone to the quick whistles, which is another thing we don't want.