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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#21 » by sully00 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:52 pm

Willie Beamen wrote:I have no problem with Perkins getting Technical Fouls. For one Perkins Ts haven't really hurt the team, in fact they seem to bring some much needed energy to the team. Also I think behind close doors Doc and Danny doesn't mind Perk getting a Technical Foul but he can't get one every game. Last season Kobe Bryant lead the league in Technical fouls did you hear the Lakers fan talking about how the Lakers should suspend Kobe? Heck no! So I don't understand some of you be calling for Perkins to get suspended by his own team for too many technicals.


Doc is saying one thing in the press and practicing another there is no player on this team with a tighter leash on him than Perk. Notice Doc simply addressed the trash talking techs as well. Because again that just breads more talking. Now if people start landing on their ass then the talking will stop.

I thought the comment last night to the TNT crew about KG being good role model for Perk and Perk saying not as far as the trash talking, was pretty funny stuff. I think Perk might get hit off sometimes for what the Big Brother had to say as well take it for what it is worth.
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#22 » by DieselCeltic » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:36 pm

We need an enforcer and so far we have 3: Perk, Powe and Baby. Perk doesn't need to get suspended. WTF...I mean the guy plays with Passion and doesn't let nobody mess with him, period. KG is solely responsible for bringing fire in all of our young players, I give him credit for that. Never let anyone walk over you - that's my rule in life. Who the heck is Maxiell dunking the ball and losing by 20 points. A scrub who I personally can't stand. I'm glad Perk shoved him letting him know he's just a scrub.
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#23 » by Willie Beamen » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:45 pm

All I have to say is I don't mind Perkins technical fouls. Just like I didn't mind Rodney Harrison bone crushing hits, nor do I mind Hines Ward laying out DBs. You need tough minded guys on your team and I love the how Perkins and KG feed off each other.
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#24 » by MyInsatiableOne » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:48 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:He needs to calm down. It's only going to be a matter of time before other players start baiting Perk into confrontations. And when you get into enough confrontations, one day, punches are eventually going to be thrown. This team can't afford to lose Perk for 10+ games due to a lengthy suspension.

He's also getting a reputation amongst league officials too. He'll be prone to the quick whistles, which is another thing we don't want
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#25 » by threrf23 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:04 pm

Some of his techs are the result of an established reputation with officials.

Obviously I haven't watched any games courtside, but I haven't seen anything this season too out of place from Perk. And while Doc is right he needs to control emotions better if it affects his game, but part of what he has always brought to our team was toughness and attitude and the energy that entails. Its not like he's spouting his mouth off on the floor like an immature ****, like KG he just gets into it emotionally.

So I kinda agree with Willie, above. Perk isn't the type of guy thats going to pick up a 2nd foul all too easily, and if he does we can survive, and we have seen nothing from him his entire career which indicates we'll see him losing control and throwing punches or what not. Doug Collins thinks that Perk really needs to temper himself, but Doug Collins also thinks that Tony Allen is a gifted scorer who needs to show that he can be a decent defender before he can contribute regularly to our team.
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#26 » by Ortho Stice » Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:09 pm

If it becomes a bigger problem later on maybe he'll tone it down a little, but as for now we're trying to win as many games as possible which means you don't bench one of your most important players.
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#27 » by Dave_From_NB » Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:25 pm

I'm fine if Perk is taking enforcer type physical technicals, because thats a role he plays on the team. He's the big guy, and frankly I expect him to ensure people aren't taking physical liberties with the other starters.

I do wish Perk would stop the theatrics about the foul calls, and if he is getting technicals from being mouthy to the refs that should stop. He seems to be gaining some respect from the officials and isn't nearly the foul machine he used to be, but when you're constantly acting surprised that a foul is called when you did actually commit the foul, that's just trying to show up the refs, and I think that is bad long term.
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#28 » by Datruth345 » Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:13 am

this is a ridiculous proposition imo
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#29 » by GuyClinch » Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:59 pm

^^^ Yes. I agree. I don't think a player has ever been suspended preemptively by a team. Perkins would be singled out and teams, fans and the media would go nuts on the Celtics. It's up there with the Gonzo thread about Doc not getting respect.
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#30 » by pERKiSaBEAST » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:49 pm

Perk's presence is needed, and by presence I mean let Perk be Perk.


Remember last game against the Raptors, when he got into it with Jermaine O'neal and after jermaine got in his face he stood right in his face and said something like "we gon be bangin down here you better get used to it" in an aggressive manner and Jermaine went away for the rest of the game.


I do think he needs to complain to the refs a little bit less, it's ok to let out a little emotion but when you talk to the ref you need to be more calm and under control...Authority figures are much more receptive to a person with a calm demeanor, it's like dealing with a cop, they are much less likely to write you a ticket if you deal with them in a calm, relaxed manner and don't complain, it makes their job easier, now they may still write you a ticket, but if you complain too much or piss them off they might write you two, or up the fine rather then reduce it.


Perk has to realize that the NBA has make up calls and all types of stuff that make it so that not every call is going to be a fair or correct call, since there is no instant replay, refs try to make up for bad calls at the other end, also if one team hasn't gotten to the line enough they might call a few ticky-tac fouls to make it more even if they think they might have missed some calls, so Perk just has to realize and accept this (to a degree) and keep his cool more often, because the "make up calls" will more often be called on him rather then the Big 3.



But as far as picking up Technicals simply for protecting his teamates (which the refs shouldn't call) I fully support his physical play and intensity that ends up with him going overboard now and then and getting too physical, it's more of an advantage then liability especially now with teams trying their hardest to push the C's around to make them lose focus.

But rather then pushing guys after they give a hard foul to Pierce (which results in a technical), I think it would be more effective for Kendrick to lay a HARD FOUL on that guy at the other end, a taste of his own medicine...and if they don't call the flagrant fouls when they're doing it to Pierce, then they shouldn't when Perk does it to them.
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#31 » by PPAW4Life » Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:39 pm

I really think this year the C's are getting a lot of ticky tack fouls and quick T's called on them. Maybe the League is coming down harder on us because we're the Champs?
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#32 » by canman1971 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:52 pm

The league has become soft. It will now be known as the No Balls Association.
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#33 » by MyInsatiableOne » Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:25 pm

While usually I think Perk needs to STFU and stop getting stupid techs, the one he got in TOR yesterday was BS. Bosh had Perk's arm wrapped after that dunk and all Perk did was yank it away and start running down the court. Of course, given his reputation, he got tagged with the T...so it's a vicious cycle...

But the league is so wimpy now...news flash to NBA, basketball is a CONTACT SPORT, not **** cricket!
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#34 » by cloverleaf » Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:31 pm

Wasn't Parish a stoic rather than trash-talking center? Would that Perk could find a little of his Inner Chief.
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#35 » by sully00 » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:18 pm

cloverleaf wrote:Wasn't Parish a stoic rather than trash-talking center? Would that Perk could find a little of his Inner Chief.


The Chief was also pretty notoriuos for kicking ass and taking names in on court dust ups, essentially Larry Bird's secret service. I would say part of Perk's problem is that he has already found his inner Chief and it isn't 1984, on top of that he also has tapped into his inner KG which is turning him into an outer Charles Oakley (without the sick rebounding numbers).

I think that Ainge has to have a sit down with Stern and swing the bat a little here. Perk is not a dirty player he is frequently the big guy getting nailed with a tech because of retaliating from a cheap shot or the refs blowing calls. I would tell Stern "We are the NBA champs with a sold out arena and bombing teams on a nightly basis. You may not like us very much but we are national TV once a week and the last thing you need is our owner going Mark Cuban about technical fouls. The guy has 8 techs and he hasn't done damn thing it is time to chill out."
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#36 » by MyInsatiableOne » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:25 pm

^^Well said sully. I agree, a lot of Perk's T's (like the cheap one he picked up in Toronto yesterday) are flat-out wrong.

That being said, you're right, he doesn't have the necessary cachet, as it were, to be acting like this circa vintage Chief...
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Re: Perk has to get suspended by the team 

Post#37 » by aboubata » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:26 pm

I looked up the rules last night and found this http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... s_too.html

a player with 16 technicals will suspended for one game and every technical after that equals one game suspension.

so at this rate, Perk will get his 16 in the 30th game, be suspended for the 31rst, and then play every other game after that.

yea, lets not hurt his feeling, he is going to be our enforcer, or 1/2 enforcer?
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