Would You Rather...

[Preludepunk27]

You PLAY to WIN the GAME!

OMG please don't bring up a bad spot in my life again in this thread. I hate Herm with a passion

[vincecarter4pres]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMk5sMHj58I

[ecuhus1981]

You PLAY to WIN the GAME!

OMG please don't bring up a bad spot in my life again in this thread. I hate Herm with a passion

Hey, you've survived and are done with it at least (you're a Jets fan, I assume). I'm still living it (yep, Chiefs fan. ugh.)

[Chris Morris]

I can't believe the Frank bashing going on right now.

We're 6-6 coming off of one of the best Net wins of the last 4 years. What more can you ask of this team right now?

[Chris Morris]

^ Agreed.

Frank is good at looking at the video tapes after the fact, but when it comes to in game decisions he sucks.

^

We have a winner!

As tireless a worker as LF is, it doesn't make you a quality NBA coach. He can review tapes 'til his eyes bleed, but it never, ever helps him make those split-second in-game decisions that routinely take away from this team's potential.

What the gay is everyone complaining about?

What has he done wrong so far this year?

[Stone]

When Coach Frank became our interum coach following Byrons departure. I looked for information about him. There was not much, he was a local Jersey guy from Teaneck who worked for Bobby Knight and didn't seem to have a lot of experiance. There were all the Jeff Van Gundy comparasons. The first thing that came to mind was this guy is in over his head.

Then we went on to win 13 straight games. Which set all kinds of records for a new coach across the board in the 4 major sports. That year we were eliminated in the second round by Detroit who went on to become champs that year. After that it seemed like everything went wrong. We lost Kerry Kittles and Kenyon Martin. Kidd had micro fracture surgery. The Alonzo Morning mess. Then we got Vince and Jefferson got injured. The next off season was the SAR deal gone wrong. That year we were elininated by the championship heat team. The next season we started off without Jefferson and then we lost Nenad and were eliminated that year by the conferance champian Cav's. Then last season drama was J Kidd wanting out and getting his wish.

I can't sit here and say "Could have, Shoulda have, Would have" done it this way. Hindsight is 20-20. My point is (and believe it or not there is one lol) now Frank has experiaance under his belt. Our expectations are low. Up till now the guys are playing for him and the team is again fun to watch.
For right now that works for me.

[VCRJKidd15]

lol i never noticed we alwasys got eliminated by the champs(except cavs who went to the finals)

[Rockice_8]

Frank hasn't been bad, everyone just hates him becuase he doesn't develop young players. Now if he continues to play the kids like he's been doing then I think he should stay.

[jerseyjac]

Lawrence Frank is an average NBA coach not a "bad" NBA coach...

I agree...there are some nights he can hinder us, which obviously can piss off any fan...but he is an avg coach who, sometimes, you cant figure out...like several games back w/ his choice of substitutions...you could always debate his strategies and philosophies, which we all dont agree with...but there have been worse...

In our situation, the FO should question L. Frank's coaching philiosophy, strategies and ability to connect with this team...Is he maximizing our potential? and is he the coach of the future?

I have to say, probably not...but he is a hard worker, a basketball sponge, researching every detail and doing his homework every night...he does preach his heart out to this team about various aspects of the game he feels the Nets need to focus on...but his in game coaching has been suspect, ect...and there is most likely a coach out there that might be a better fit...

I just feel coaches coach and players play...this team has to WANT to play and win not only for the franchise and its fans, but for its coach...thats when a higher connection presents itself and you see a team peforming at a different level...

[vincecarter4pres]

^^^^^
Not for nothing, but this team has been playing for the coach, the fans and themselves.
I have to say, with all the Opie bashing I do, I have grown to appreciate him more this season.
He really has these guys playing at a high level and playing together.
He has them playing winning ball and entertaining ball.

I almost hate to admit this, but I am close to annoiting him as a good coach.

That said, we could do better in the future and his substitution patterns and the timimg of his timeouts leave you scratching your head a lot.

Then again, it almost seems like he is finally "getting it" when it comes to utiizing the specific skillsets of his specific players.

All in all, I am happy with the way and level of play that Opie has them at right now and I am enjoying the ride.

A lot of guys say he doesn't develop the young guys or play them enough, but if everyone will recall honestly, I had said numerous times in the past and also in the near past such as this offseason that IMO Opie seemed like he would be a very good coach for a rebuilding team and it seems like that may hold true.

I just always felt he underutilized star veyerans, will namely ours, which of course has been his only opportunity.
I also felt and still feel that he never gets on or even yells at his vets enough or at all, maybe because he wsa afraid he would lose their respect, maube in turn because he feels he has yet to earn his.

Let's give him a chance, he's off to an awesome start maybe it will end well too.

(I can't believe I just wrote that.)

[treiz]

You PLAY to WIN the GAME!

Ah..good ol' Herm

[S.I.C. GM]

I dont know about you guys, but I dont want an Average Coach. If you mean average coach as a .500 coach, we got that.

I want something better then .500. If I cant get a Great coach I would like a Very Good one. Not an average one. Yeah we have a young team, but an average coach shouldnt coach average (right now) players. You need a Very Good coach to make a team above average.

[vincecarter4pres]

I dont know about you guys, but I dont want an Average Coach. If you mean average coach as a .500 coach, we got that.

I want something better then .500. If I cant get a Great coach I would like a Very Good one. Not an average one. Yeah we have a young team, but an average coach shouldnt coach average (right now) players. You need a Very Good coach to make a team above average.

For this situation he is a good coach, not just average.

We have a lot of talent, but none of these guys knew each other or played together before this season with a few exceptions and it only took Opie a few games to get these guys on the same page and playing some very good ball.
A lot of coaches would literally have us at 3-9 or 4-8 right now, such as an average coach.
A great coach or even a really good coach would have had us at 7-5 or 8-4 right now, because we should have one both the Golden State game and one of the Indianna games, but still.

I DO NOT VIEW OPE AS THE LONG TERM SOLUTION, but for this year and maybe one more he should be fine.

And as to your, "I want to lose as many games as possible" theory, that is crap.
Well, if we were flatout losing, were truly terrible and we had no shot at the playoffs I would hope for the same, but if you are literally talking about tanking, this is a horrible idea.
You teach the young guys all types of bad, hard to break habits, both playing style wise and mentally and you get them into an even worse mentality where they start feeling it is truly alright to lose and that it will just magically turn around one day when they get experience even if they don't change the things they do wrong.
Miami Heat style tanking is different, they just had such a putrid roster they could not help but be the worst team in the L.