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Thoughts on Terry Porter So Far?

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Post#81 » by The Diesel » Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:09 am

He's a terrible coach. His offense sucks, he hasn't improved the defense, 3 starters are ALREADY complaining about the team's offense, and his Head-Coaching experience has been useless so far.

I can't believe management forced out D'Antoni. What a joke.
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Post#82 » by BurningHeart » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:24 am

rsavaj wrote:Thought this was fascinating. Check out the defensive efficiency stats from February 06, right before Kurt Thomas went down:

http://web.archive.org/web/200602130102 ... 6/d_de.htm

Yep, Mike D'Antoni's Phoenix Suns were FOURTH.


I've mentioned this many, many times.
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Re: Thoughts on Terry Porter So Far? 

Post#83 » by garrick » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:24 pm

Would it be too difficult to incorporate a triangle offense much like Phil used in LA and Chicago? I guess one problem with that is Phil never had a superstar PF in his system.
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Re: Thoughts on Terry Porter So Far? 

Post#84 » by The Diesel » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:56 am

Porter has ruined this team. Great job, Kerr.

I mean, we're 17 games into the season and four players are already complaining. (Nash, Bell, Dragic, Amare)

Kerr hired the wrong guy.

Nobody respects Porter and I can't blame them.

This team has been blown out a bunch of times under him (Utah, New Orleans, Miami, Houston, L.A.) and got extremely lucky to beat the Thunder, Kings, and Grizzlies.

Porter is terrible.

And those losses were a result of bad coaching.
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Re: Thoughts on Terry Porter So Far? 

Post#85 » by Frank Lee » Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:34 pm

Don't give Porter the credit..... Our demise lies in the hands of RSarver and his lap dog Kerr.

All the good that was done in Season One of the the Sarver yrs has been slowly unraveled in to this tangled mess.

Sure, TPorter may not have been the best hire, but he was the perfect puppet selected by our moronic string pulling GM, who had to have on-the-court input and control of this team. Kerr'veball HAD to hire Porter, for no other coach would put up with this prettyboy pompous know it all Spinspewing parrot sitting on their shoulder, squawking how they should run HIS team.

Why do you think Saunders and Thibedeu(?) were not even considered. Hell, they may not of even applied, after seeing what shinnanigans went on with D'Ant. Coaches do talk to each other. Can you imagine the phone call to D'Ant for the skinny about his former boss(es) ? Dollars to doughnuts, Kerr did not have the entire list of 'available coaches' to choose from. Do you really think that it would be public knowlege if likely candidates politely declined to enter the 'BlunderDome'. Nope, this GM went to his tried and true methods of hiring YESMEN.

Get these Tucsonian Punks outta Dodge.

THAT , my friends, is the solution to this prob
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Re: Thoughts on Terry Porter So Far? 

Post#86 » by b-ball forever » Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:56 pm

Yeah, everybody's throwing all of the crap at Porter, but I bet there's a lot more going on behind the scenes then some peeps think... This crapball we're playing has Steve moron Kerr written all over it.

Don't forget how last year at the time he pulled off the Marion for Shaq trade, his response to the dumbfounded journalists was "I'm either a genius or I'm an idiot".
After Shaq got utterly exposed during the playoffs 1st round slapping last year (which basically proved him to be an idiot, as he himself put it), it looks like he's desperately trying to save face by making Shaq look real good at the expense of the team, all run thru his puppet ex-SanAN homeboy Terry Porter.

It's all good for Mr Kerrvey dumbass, dump the ball into Shaq and play slowball... Shaq looks good, the casual fans bite on the koolaid, Shaq still sells a ton of jerseys, and while the team is worse they're still good enuf to make the playoffs (thus preventing the loss of his job, very good combo from a financial POV, Sarver likes!), and since Shaq is producing Kerrvey doesn't exactly seem like much of a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) anymore!!! Genius!!!

One major problem with that tho, what he completely overlooked while drawing up his buisiness plan is that there are guys on the team like Steve Nash and Raja who are a lot more interested in having their team play good basketball then stacking up on cash and saving their GM's sorry ass face.
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Re: Thoughts on Terry Porter So Far? 

Post#87 » by |||-Abaddon-||| » Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:56 pm

What I want in a coach is one who preaches alot of balance.

We have to two very potent post scorers, good for at least 20+ a game.

We have the best shooting point guard in the league, who has to assume the role of shot creator on this team.

We have a big three, and we have a very solid core around us, we just have a find our groove by getting everyone their touches and focusing on defense.
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Re: Thoughts on Terry Porter So Far? 

Post#88 » by Stix » Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:48 pm

Frank Lee wrote:Don't give Porter the credit..... Our demise lies is from the hands of RSarver and his lap dog Kerr.

All the good that was done in Season One of the the Sarver yrs has been slowly unraveled in to this tangled mess.

Sure, TPorter may not have been the best hire, but he was the perfect puppet selected by our moronic string pulling GM, who had to have on-the-court input and control of this team. Kerr'veball HAD to hire Porter, for no other coach would put up with this prettyboy pompous know it all Spinspewing parrot sitting on their shoulder, squawking how they should run HIS team.

Why do you think Saunders and Thibedeu(?) were not even considered. Hell, they may not of even applied, after seeing what shinnanigans went on with D'Ant. Coaches do talk to each other. Can you imagine the phone call to D'Ant for the skinny about his former boss(es) ? Dollars to doughnuts, Kerr did not have the entire list of 'available coaches' to choose from. Do you really think that it would be public knowlege if likely candidates politely declined to enter the 'BlunderDome'. Nope, this GM went to his tried and true methods of hiring YESMEN.

Get these Tucsonian Punks outta Dodge.

THAT , my friends, is the solution to this prob



I think Frank hit it right on the head... and I'm from Tucson. I feel bad for Stevie Nash.
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Re: Thoughts on Terry Porter So Far? 

Post#89 » by The Diesel » Mon Dec 1, 2008 3:44 am

Surprisingly, I will NOT blame Porter for tonight's loss. The offense looked MUCH better tonight and that was my biggest issue with him.

A disappointing loss, though.
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Re: Thoughts on Terry Porter So Far? 

Post#90 » by KJ7 » Mon Dec 1, 2008 4:01 am

Sure it looked better but I still blame Porter for tonights loss. His rotations still stink and what the heck is he doing defensively exactly? Isn't "getting these guys to play defense" the main reason he came on board.

He changes nothing in the last qtr and sits back and watches us get our tails spanked. I know some players have got to put up their hand and take responsibility but you still implement traps. For all of Harris and Wade's freakish athletic ability IMO they don't read the game fantastically well and are prone to dribble themselves into trouble. We rarely (I counted once against NJ) forced them into doing that. They just got around the pick and the world was their oyster. They could pick their spot or get into the lane at will.

Truly pathetic.
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Post#91 » by The Diesel » Mon Dec 1, 2008 4:07 am

You know why it looked better? Because Shaq didn't shoot the ball that much and Amare was used properly.

THIS is the way they should run the offense. Nash was also good with 9 assists.

Hopefully they learned their lesson and learned to not make Shaq such a big part of the offense.
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Re: Thoughts on Terry Porter So Far? 

Post#92 » by mkot » Mon Dec 1, 2008 4:09 am

Frank Lee wrote:Don't give Porter the credit..... Our demise lies in the hands of RSarver and his lap dog Kerr.

All the good that was done in Season One of the the Sarver yrs has been slowly unraveled in to this tangled mess.


Sarver is an@sshole who f**ked this team up, plain and simple, no other way to put it. From selling draft picks to the firing of BC. Really, losing BC was the beginning of the end. How do you let go the reigning EOY who put the current title contending team together? Then, instead of ponying up the money for the right executive with experience, you let Coach Mike D'Antoni, with no management experience, do double-duty. Then, after he missteps, you hire a first time GM, your good buddy, who promptly gets into it with your successful coach and helps expedite his exit. Then your first time GM hires his old playing buddy, who has little experience, to coach a veteran group of players ready to make a last run.

If we have threads 10 threads about Terry Porter, we should have at least 20 official Robert Sarver sucks thread. I can't put all the blame on Kerr. Really, he shouldn't even be here. BC should still have a job. I don't know that he had Sarver's ear all these years, telling him that the suns don't need JoeJ, BC, or that they should sell the picks.

I can only blame Sarver for the team being in this mess.
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Re: Thoughts on Terry Porter So Far? 

Post#93 » by KJ7 » Mon Dec 1, 2008 4:16 am

Look at the inexperience of our entire front office.

Sarver - basically had to have Jerry C stick around to show him the ropes.
Kerr - first exec position after coming from journalism post-playing career
Porter - 2nd head coaching job but seriously inexperienced.

Does another team have an owner, exec and head coach with such little experience?

Ironically we have the oldest playing list and the least experience in the front office. Don't you usually try to get it the other way around?!
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Re: Thoughts on Terry Porter So Far? 

Post#94 » by Frank Lee » Mon Dec 1, 2008 5:34 pm

Amen brothers Mkot + KJ Amen

My how the mighty have fallen. I just don't know how we can get back to the level of contention in this yr or next, especially under this current administration.

I would relish the opportunity to be able to heckle both RSarver and Kerr'veball at a game.... pointing out the damage they have done. a full fledged fan mutiny is needed.... but so unlikely in the sleepy bluehaired arena that was once a Madhouse. (its soon to be come a Madhouse again, but one of different definition)
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Re: Thoughts on Terry Porter So Far? 

Post#95 » by rsavaj » Mon Dec 1, 2008 6:51 pm

Can we fire Kerr AND Porter?
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Re: Thoughts on Terry Porter So Far? 

Post#96 » by TASTIC » Tue Dec 2, 2008 4:41 am

And buy the team...and put JC back in charge


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