Al Thornton

[Nicky Nix Nook]

So as some of you saw I posted a trade That involved DET, LAC, and Sac that would bring Thornton to SAC. The salaries didnt match up so the thread was locked. I have been spending a lot of time trying to find a scenario where the Kings get him without dealing Martin, Thompson, Hawes, Greene. Some people disagree with me but I am willing to give up Salmons and Miller in a 3 or 4 way deal. Salmons is very good, but no one is giving a young prospect up for him, so you have to trade with win now teams. Thornton can be our SF of the future, and although he is inconsistent now (he's young), I think he will develop into a very good 20/10 player. Just think: Martin, Thornton, Thompson, Hawes. Those are all star candidates in 3-4 years (Martin already a candidate).

I have been working with DET/LAC quite a bit and throwing in teams like POR to try and make the salaries work, but I can't seem to come to a conclusion. I think DET would be smart to move Rip for Salmons, and the Clips seem interested in Rip. I think there's a deal there somewhere. Anyway, if you come up with a solution let me know. Thanks.

[deNIEd]

And why would LAC give up Thornton to get Rip or Salmons or Miller or whoever you had going there?

Takes 2 teams to make a trade

[RoyalCourtJestr]

Thornton isn't going to be a star alibur player. He's good, no denying that, but I'm not sure I'd give Salmons for him.

[pillwenney]

Thornton will never be a 20/10 player because he'll never average 10 rebounds. He's a nice player, and I wouldn't mind seeing him here, but it's not worth going through a ton of trouble to get him. I'm also not sure he would be a particularly nice fit next to Kevin. I think unless our SF is a franchise player, he would ideally be more of a jack-of-all-trades-specifically-a-defender type.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

Thornton will never be a 20/10 player because he'll never average 10 rebounds. He's a nice player, and I wouldn't mind seeing him here, but it's not worth going through a ton of trouble to get him. I'm also not sure he would be a particularly nice fit next to Kevin. I think unless our SF is a franchise player, he would ideally be more of a jack-of-all-trades-specifically-a-defender type.

good point about Martin/Thornton. But I think that Al might be able to take pressure off Kevin.

But I do think Thornton can be a 20/10 player, he had 23/9 last night...and he's a second year player.

I'm not opposed to getting a physical, defender type at SF, but who's a young prospect that brings that to the table?

[Nicky Nix Nook]

Thornton isn't going to be a star alibur player. He's good, no denying that, but I'm not sure I'd give Salmons for him.

I'd trade Salmons talent now, for Thornton's potential talent.

[pillwenney]

good point about Martin/Thornton. But I think that Al might be able to take pressure off Kevin.

But I do think Thornton can be a 20/10 player, he had 23/9 last night...and he's a second year player.

I'm not opposed to getting a physical, defender type at SF, but who's a young prospect that brings that to the table?

This team has plenty of guys that'll be able to score. I don't think that should be the top priority.

Everybody has good nights. Thornton is averaging 5.4RPG right now in over 37MPG and he's almost 25.

I don't know, it could be a bunch of guys. It could be somebody that's not in the league yet. It could be Cisco, I don't know. But the point is that we don't need to rush out and find that guy right now.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

And why would LAC give up Thornton to get Rip or Salmons or Miller or whoever you had going there?

Takes 2 teams to make a trade

The clippers want to win now, and Salmons and Hamilton are both upgrades.

Do you watch basketball? You make many bold statements (mostly to me) but have no knowledge or evidence along with them.

Your constant harsh negativity is really getting old.

[RoyalCourtJestr]

He's not exactly "brimming" with potential. Like mitchwebber said, everyone has good nights, but he's not ever going to consistantly score 20 points or get ten boards. A good 13/6 SF from years to come, but Salmons is better then him now and I think Salmons (defenetly on the scoring front) will remain the better of the two.

[pillwenney]

He's not exactly "brimming" with potential. Like mitchwebber said, everyone has good nights, but he's not ever going to consistantly score 20 points or get ten boards. A good 13/6 SF from years to come, but Salmons is better then him now and I think Salmons (defenetly on the scoring front) will remain the better of the two.

Well that's taking it too far. He's already averaging 17PPG this year. He's a really nice scorer. But that's about it.

[RoyalCourtJestr]

He's averaging 17PPG? I knew he was about 14-15 but I didn't realize it was that high.

[deNIEd]

And why would LAC give up Thornton to get Rip or Salmons or Miller or whoever you had going there?

Takes 2 teams to make a trade

The clippers want to win now, and Salmons and Hamilton are both upgrades.

Do you watch basketball? You make many bold statements (mostly to me) but have no knowledge or evidence along with them.

Your constant harsh negativity is really getting old.

Portland wants to win now too, yet they won't be trading Oden for Shaq anytime soon.

Am i suppose to back myself up, when you make idiotic homeristic trades that have no resemblance of reality at all? Making trades 2-5 mil off is perfectly fine as a starting ground, but all your trades are over 10-15 mil off in terms of salary.

Thornton
17 pts, 5.4 reb, 1.5 ast, 1 blk, .7 stl, 45% FG,
Salmons
19.2 pts, 3.6 reb, 3.1 ast, .2 blk, 1.2 stl, 50% FG
Rip
16.1 pts, 3.5 reb, 3.7 ast, 0 blk, .6 stl, 41% FG

Rip 30 years old, 10th year in league
Salmons 29 years old, 7th year in league
Thornton 25 years old, 2nd year in league.

Thornton has the most value out of all three players without question.

[Smills91]

I'd rather target Julian Wright...a cheaper option and a better fit IMO with MORE potential than Thornton

[deNIEd]

Wright is a better fit, Thornton is more of a scorer, Wright will compliment Martin better, and easier to be had in my opinion.

[pillwenney]

Both Nicky Nix Nook and denIEd, calm down a little.

[Smills91]

Wright is a better fit, Thornton is more of a scorer, Wright will compliment Martin better, and easier to be had in my opinion.

I think Salmons for Wright/Butler/lotto protected 1st is pretty reasonable. We could even toss in Douby to balance the rosters.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

And why would LAC give up Thornton to get Rip or Salmons or Miller or whoever you had going there?

Takes 2 teams to make a trade

The clippers want to win now, and Salmons and Hamilton are both upgrades.

Do you watch basketball? You make many bold statements (mostly to me) but have no knowledge or evidence along with them.

Your constant harsh negativity is really getting old.

Portland wants to win now too, yet they won't be trading Oden for Shaq anytime soon.

Am i suppose to back myself up, when you make idiotic homeristic trades that have no resemblance of reality at all? Making trades 2-5 mil off is perfectly fine as a starting ground, but all your trades are over 10-15 mil off in terms of salary.

Thornton
17 pts, 5.4 reb, 1.5 ast, 1 blk, .7 stl, 45% FG,
Salmons
19.2 pts, 3.6 reb, 3.1 ast, .2 blk, 1.2 stl, 50% FG
Rip
16.1 pts, 3.5 reb, 3.7 ast, 0 blk, .6 stl, 41% FG

Rip 30 years old, 10th year in league
Salmons 29 years old, 7th year in league
Thornton 25 years old, 2nd year in league.

Thornton has the most value out of all three players without question.

NOTHING I have said has been blatantly homeristic.

If the salaries are off, it's no need to get your panties in a bunch. People can include a fourth team or even just TALK about the value of the trade. Are you going to use this site to execute a trade in real life? NO, so stop having a b***h fit everytime I post something.

Oh and in case you didn't know. Win now, means that they want to win NOW, as in present time(you can look "now" up on dictionary.com). That means they are NOT rebuliding, therefore having good talent NOW is better than young potential

got it?

[pillwenney]

NOTHING I have said has been blatantly homeristic.

If the salaries are off, it's no need to get your panties in a bunch. People can include a fourth team or even just TALK about the value of the trade. Are you going to use this site to execute a trade in real life? NO, so stop having a b***h fit everytime I post something.

Oh and in case you didn't know. Win now, means that they want to win NOW, as in present time(you can look "now" up on dictionary.com). That means they are NOT rebuliding, therefore having good talent NOW is better than young potential

got it?

Both Nicky Nix Nook and denIEd, calm down a little.

[RoyalCourtJestr]

I still don't get why everyone is so willing to throw away Salmons for unproven talent. Yeah, I guess Thornton's doing pretty good, but Salmons has a good contract and I don't consider him one of the veterans that should go. Wright has potential, but it's not to the ammount where I'd trade Salmons for him and a Hornets 1st (cause they'll suck, for sure XD).

[SacTown Kings]

^^^ I gotta agree. I have mentioned this a few times on the trade board mostly replying to Smilll's Salmon trade proposals. I just don't get why we would trade Salmons for potential talent when the "potential" isn't likely to be any better than Salmons even if these young players even reach their "potential". Then I think maybe salary wise, no that can't be it because Salmons is on one "potential" reach their potnetial we would have to pay them more than Salmon to keep them around. I guess people think Salmons is old, lol.