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Re: Heat @ Jazz 

Post#61 » by Duiz » Thu Dec 4, 2008 5:08 am

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Duiz wrote: I mean, SORELY. I think we would have had Boozer out there, and we would have gotten blown out by 20


You're such an ass clown, Duiz.

I bet you right now we win with Boozer. He can finish around the rim and we dont get pussy whipped on the boards. I will take Boozer-Millsap over Okur-Millsap anyday.

I seriously dont understand how Jazz fans will hate on Boozer passionately, but give Memo a free pass. Even that string of nice games he had, he did the same thing Boozer does. Score points, not play D. Except the chief difference is Boozer is consistent and is a beast on the boards.


Okur has played terribly the last couple of games. Let's say we switch Memo for Boozer, I think we would have still SORELY missed AK. Ever since AK became the franchise player a while ago, we don't do well without him.
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Re: Heat @ Jazz 

Post#62 » by Racer X » Thu Dec 4, 2008 5:24 am

Paul Millsap was great. Korver and Kosta were just okay. Everyone else was bad and that was the game.

Deron and Memo were just flat out awful. It was horrible to watch.

Can we please just once get to see a full Jazz team that is NOT playing in a back to back? BTW I am not going to the back to back excuse tonight. That was a winnable game. We should have been up by 20 at the end of the first, but just collapsed. We also would have shortened their lead early in the third but Sloan stuck with Almond who was as cold as ice waaaayyyyy too long (though Brew and CJ werent any better).
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Re: Heat @ Jazz 

Post#63 » by outerspacefella » Thu Dec 4, 2008 5:49 am

We played without Boozer, AK, Harp, Collins, and without 60% of Williams, and without 40% of Okur, and without Knight... (and with Fesenko whom no one knows if he's able to play or not).

That's 3 starters, the only backup center with experience, the key bench player, the usual 6th man, and the best of the 2 backup PGs... way too much... yet anyway we should have won this one.

The count of games we shouldn't lost now stands at 3 (Wizards, Bobcats, Heat)... and there's a big difference between 12-8 and 15-5...

Shorthanded or not we're just doing the same thig again: giving up the chance of HCA thru West playoffs by losing against mediocre teams...
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Re: Heat @ Jazz 

Post#64 » by GP » Thu Dec 4, 2008 5:59 am

Horrible game by the jazz, biggest thing I saw in the game is a lack of interior toughness and defense (not too uncommon for the jazz). I think I am growing tired of our center camping out at 20ft and launching jumpers. Please give us a center who camps in the lane, grabs rebounds and blocks shots. Boozer would have definitely helped, I don't know how people can blame him solely for our weak interior defense. He's injured and our interior defense is as sieve-like as ever.
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Re: Heat @ Jazz 

Post#65 » by gojazzmjsucks » Thu Dec 4, 2008 6:19 am

I'm all up for Okur taking better shots, but when there is a shot blocker killing us he needs to shot some money balls. The jazz looked flat on another back to back. We can't keep losing those back to backs. If we just played the West we would be the best team in the league. The East has killed us this year and now we are losing HOME games. We need to get healthy and fast, this is not where I want to be right now. We are not the 3rd best team in this division.

When this team gets healthy we need to look at this team and make a move!something....I not sure if it's a big move or not, but something.
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Re: Heat @ Jazz 

Post#66 » by HammerDunk » Thu Dec 4, 2008 6:22 am

AK is the key to the last 2 of our losses IMO. With him we win tonight and would have had a much better chance against the Nets. Boozer gets us a win tonight, but probably not much else against the Nets. I really want a healthy AK back!
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Re: Heat @ Jazz 

Post#67 » by Duiz » Thu Dec 4, 2008 6:41 am

I don't know from where is coming this idea that we are worst defensively because we don't have Boozer. As a matter of fact, I would argue the opposite. What has been killing us is the diahrrea of Turnovers that turn to very easy points. Deron's 5 turnovers vs New Jersey, 4 turnovers vs Sacto, 6 turnovers vs Miami haven't helped us at all. I don't think I can blame him completely. Without Kirilenko, the defense can focus mostly on him while defending the distribution to the 1st and 2nd options. I don't know why I don't buy Almond as such reliable fella.

I think with Kirilenko and Knight back, this could have been a blowout. We SORELY need AK back.
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Re: Heat @ Jazz 

Post#68 » by carrottop12 » Thu Dec 4, 2008 7:56 am

You can see how the injuries are wearing on the Jazz. It's not just the players that are missing it's the time other players are having to play to make up for it.

Millsap played 44 minutes tonight, Deron is playing 33 minutes in a game he was questionable for on a back to back. You can just see how tired everyone is out there when going for the rebounds. It's a shame.

I would love to see this team healthy this year.
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Re: Heat @ Jazz 

Post#69 » by Reckless » Thu Dec 4, 2008 10:13 am

when we came out of halftime showing no fire i knew we were in trouble.

really missing ak and booze
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Re: Heat @ Jazz 

Post#70 » by @ndrew » Thu Dec 4, 2008 10:23 am

When are AK and Boozer scheduled?
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Re: Heat @ Jazz 

Post#71 » by schneiderjazz » Thu Dec 4, 2008 10:48 am

Horrible game by the Jazz. Deron and Memo sucked big time. I wonder if the Jazz were in really good shape when training camp started like Sloan said. Players are getting injured left and right and it seems we only have a 10% chance of winning the second game of a back to back.
I'm gonna put some blame on Jerry for this one too.
3rd quarter: game tied. Heat go on an 11-0 run. Sloan calls a timeout.
About 5 minutes later: Heat have a 16 point lead. Jazz cut it down to 11. Spoelstra calls a timeout.
That's how it works, Jerry. You don't wait until you're **** to call a timeout. It's one thing when the team is playing well, misses a couple of shots and you try to let them figure it out by themselves. It is another when they're playing like crap and you just leave them there getting their asses kicked. That's just bad coaching.
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Re: Heat @ Jazz 

Post#72 » by cjs55 » Thu Dec 4, 2008 5:57 pm

Is there any doubt that the Jazz trio at this point is Dwill/Boozer/AK? Okur was just terrible thrust into a prime scorer role tonight. But even when he's playing well, he still doesn't have the same impact as AK. If we have either Boozer or AK, and no Okur, I say we win this game. Millsap played really hard and you can hardly blame him for this one. It's gotta lay on Dwill and Memo unfortunately.

Dwill I think is pretty good physically. His problems seem more mental, which hopefully just means he needs to play more and get back into the groove. Some of his TOs were very uncharacteristic of him.
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Re: Heat @ Jazz 

Post#73 » by vinzanity » Fri Dec 5, 2008 12:55 am

What's the status of AK47 and Booz for Friday's game against the Raptors?

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