0-2 to how many wins?

[Icness]

An 0-2 start marked by simply inept play across the board. There is no pressure on the QB, poor coverage, lousy tackling, Roy Williams playing hard about 30% of the time, Kitna melting down, no attempt to run the ball, and Jeff Backus playing worse than ever.

So how many wins will this team wind up with? I could see a 2-14 season very easy right about now.

[m23uza1hem36]

I could see us go 2-14 or 7-9 or 8-8, everyone on this team is inconsistent. The problem to me isn't John Kitna, isn't our receivers or even our running backs; it's the line that we haven't improved. If we can get any type of blocking we'd be in better shape right now by far, but...the line is just terrible...
Nether to say the less, our defense hasn't been anything near good either, we're getting ripped up on the ground and through the air, a lot of people thought this season would be different then the last few years, to me, we're even worse then last year and the year before that, at least right now.

[xSABOx]

I thought they'd be a potential playoff contender, but have come to the conclusion that it's not possible when you have the following things: a QB who is nothing more than a backup (please let Stanton heal up), below average OL (how Backus, Peterman and Foster are still starting is beyond me), no pass rush specialist (where are IAF and Avril??), worst starting LB corps in the NFL (neither one of them is good), and veteran DBs playing the worst ball of their careers (Kelley and Smith are done)...

unless they show some life against the 49ers, I'd go into the bye week with the idea of putting all my young guys in and seeing what they can give me because these so called "veterans" haven't done ****..

funny how we still need to upgrade at QB, LT, DE, MLB and CB after three different coaching regimes...

[craig01]

I guess this is not an endorsement of Matt Millen.

BTW- why was Kevin Smith benched?

[chrbal]

I thought from 7 to 9 wins was very possible. then the first game happened, and I remembered it was the Lions. 2, maybe 3 wins...and then it finally happens. The organization cleans house.

The problem isn't any one single area, its EVERY single area. KItna, the starter, is the best backup QB in football. There is no offensive line. The running game is mediocre, the WRs are misused...Jon this is Roy Williams, hes pretty good. You might want to throw to him a bit more.

The defense is pitiful. The Lions are to the NFL what the Knicks have been to the NBA. A well funded, god-awful franchise.

[ajaX82]

Any time your future franchise back (Smith) is benched for a recently cut old-ish RB (Rudy), i get worried. Not that Rudy wasnt great against SF, but come on, this team is going no where fast. Play the kid.

The D is unwatchable, the O-line doesnt do anything accept commit false starts and let defenders by, Kitna is losing his mind, and the recievers give a ***** like half the time.

I actually am not sure who does care out there. The efforts ive seen....no one. No one cares. at all. Marinilli preaches being a hardass than cant get his players to try.

This team is pathetic

[Icness]

Up (down?) to 0-4, Millen has left the building, and the Lions come off one of the worst displays of NFL football I've seen in my 30+ years of watching.

Where are any wins to be found? The remaining schedule:
Sun 10/12 at Minnesota 1:00 pm
Sun 10/19 at Houston 4:05 pm
Sun 10/26 Washington 1:00 pm
Sun 11/2 at Chicago 1:00 pm
Sun 11/9 Jacksonville 1:00 pm
Sun 11/16 at Carolina 1:00 pm
Sun 11/23 Tampa Bay 1:00 pm
Thu 11/27 Tennessee 12:30 pm
Sun 12/7 Minnesota 1:00 pm
Sun 12/14 at Indianapolis 1:00 pm
Sun 12/21 New Orleans 1:00 pm
Sun 12/28 at Green Bay 1:00 pm

Houston is winless, their defense is also awful and they have QBs that turn the ball over a lot. They kinda remind me of the 2006 Lions. Decent chance for a win there if DET shows up.

Washington is a playoff-caliber team but they have been prone to lulls in the past. I don't see it happening this year, but in theory the Lions match up well with them.

Tampa could bring Jeff Garcia, the most hated man in the Lions locker room to this day. Perhaps some retribution motivation?

[ajaX82]

That schedule is not promising. I dont see Houston as the win, Schaub to Johnson will murder us. I predict a random upset somewhere (a division game maybe?) but in all reality this team could go 0-16 and i wouldnt be surprised

[Icness]

Best two remaining chances are at Carolina, the next MIN game, and the Saints. The Panthers are light years better but they are good for one major clunker a month, and it's more likely to happen at home against a crappy team.

MIN remains vulnerable because their special teams are horrible and that's the one area the Lions consistently do well. Quite well, in fact.

The Saints turn the ball over way too much, make too many stupid penalties, and they might not have Reggie Bush. That's actually the game I'm mentally circling for the Lions only win of the year.

[ajaX82]

Sun 11/16 at Carolina 1:00 pm
Sun 11/23 Tampa Bay 1:00 pm
Thu 11/27 Tennessee 12:30 pm
Sun 12/7 Minnesota 1:00 pm
Sun 12/14 at Indianapolis 1:00 pm
Sun 12/21 New Orleans 1:00 pm
Sun 12/28 at Green Bay 1:00 pm

The remaining 7...and after the way we played today not promising. I dont see a win. I really dont

[chrbal]

I'm basically hoping that any of the last 3 games are when those teams are locked into their posistions (playoffs, wild card, or "sitting this one out") and the Lions get to play that teams "C" team. I don't think that will be an easy win, but at least it will be a better chance.

Of course, I'm at the point where I want them to lose all 16 and have this season go down in history as THE WORST EVER. With Millen, Marinelli, and all the other suspects stapled right to it. So ESPN, Sport Illustrated, Sporting News, ESPN Classic, and all the rest can bring this sad team up again and again.

So that no other franchise makes the horrid mistakes that were made, and real change happens.

Is it wrong that I watch the NFL waiver wire for help?

[Icness]

Well the Panthers exorcised their clunker last week at Oakland, so they will crush the Lions.

It really is looking like New Orleans or 0-16.

[ajaX82]

oh boy....we got some really tough games left. TB and Carolina were prolly the two most winnable. NO the only one we could take left maybe?

[ajaX82]

Sun 12/14 at Indianapolis 1:00 pm
Sun 12/21 New Orleans 1:00 pm
Sun 12/28 at Green Bay 1:00 pm

Thats it. Three tough games. 0-16 is very real right now.

Im kinda rooting for it in a way, because such a terrible, terrible year could hopefully convince the morons running this team that big changes are needed. Starting with the Fords selling their ownership...

[mastertang]

Sun 12/14 at Indianapolis 1:00 pm
Sun 12/21 New Orleans 1:00 pm
Sun 12/28 at Green Bay 1:00 pm

Thats it. Three tough games. 0-16 is very real right now.

Im kinda rooting for it in a way, because such a terrible, terrible year could hopefully convince the morons running this team that big changes are needed. Starting with the Fords selling their ownership...

Yeah it seems most likely we're not seeing a W this season. It's kind of unbelievable... 0-16? I never thought I'd see it.

[Liqourish]

Well it will be a historic season. Hopefully it leads to a turn around in the offseason.

With the #1 pick in the 2009 NFL draft, the Detroit Lions select....

[Icness]

0-14, tying the record for the worst start in NFL history. Hurrah

To Rod Marinelli's undying credit, this team has not mailed it in other than the turkey day game. They played pretty well against the Colts, just not enough talent or experience in how to win.

I have more than a inkling that the Lions beat the Saints this weekend. I'm torn as to whether I want that to happen.

Re: the 1st pick.
This is straight from my current working draft of my next mock draft. And I got this opinion from several people both on and around the team:
Round 1:
1. Detroit Lions--Andre Smith, T, Alabama. If the current regime remains in place, you can expect two things. First is a commitment to toughness in the trenches, something the current LT, Jeff Backus, sorely lacks. Second is a steadfast refusal to risk top $$ and pay exorbitant bonuses to a top 10 QB that has a better-than-50% chance of failure. If the Fords sell the team and new management is brought in, that could change. But if the Ford family and Martin Mayhew are still in place at draft time, any mock that you see with the Lions picking a QB #1 overall is ignorant, using that term literally.

I know the Ford family is at least listening to offers for the team, no idea the level of seriousness. I also know that Mayhew has garnered a lot of respect around the league for what he's done in Millen's wake, and the Fords aren't oblivious to that.

I have them taking Ball State QB Nate Davis with the Roy Williams pick, then a couple of defensive players I know they've heavily scouted: Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati and Tyrone McKenzie LB South Florida. The 3rd round Dallas pick I haven't gotten that far yet.

[Liqourish]

Well then I hope the Fords sell because a franchise QB is needed, badly. This team is in such shambles based on poor decisions by the Fords and their chosen management personal. The only way to turn it around is a full overhaul and rebuild with key pieces that can be the faces of the franchise.

[ajaX82]

Well then I hope the Fords sell because a franchise QB is needed, badly. This team is in such shambles based on poor decisions by the Fords and their chosen management personal. The only way to turn it around is a full overhaul and rebuild with key pieces that can be the faces of the franchise.

No, drafting a QB first overall is a very bad choice. Putting a young QB behind a bad line will kill him (see: Carr, David and/or Harrington, Joey). We need to build a line, than put a QB in there. Look at how Miami or the Jets have done things. PLEASE DRAFT ANDRE SMITH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!

I pray the Fords sell anywho, but thats another story.

Last game comin up, i do hope we win. 0-16 is just embarassing, not that 1-15 isnt i suppose, but still.

[Bosanac]

0-16 Whoooooooooooooooooo. Can nobody do it like us!!!