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Post#1 » by Luv 4 da game » Mon Dec 8, 2008 8:08 pm

I don't want to keep on making multiple threads, so i am putting everything together in one thread.

From Rotoworld :-

The Newark Star-Ledger reports that the Mets have spoken with the Blue Jays about B.J. Ryan.
It sounds like a rumor without much substance. The Mets have their focus on the free agent closer market right now with a strong desire to land Francisco Rodriguez. Brian Fuentes, Trevor Hoffman and Kerry Wood are also on the team's radar.


(Yeah, Blue Jays are new on that list. I heard late last night that the Mets and Jays had had some discussions about B.J. Ryan. Not sure it's realistic, though, since the guy the Jays want more than any other is Fernando Martinez, and the Mets don't want to deal him.)


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Milton Bradley declined the Rangers' arbitration offer Sunday night and has already drawn the interest of a few teams.
The Blue Jays have made Bradley their top priority of the offseason and the Cubs may also throw their hat into the ring. Bradley, who hit .321 last season with 22 HR and 77 RBI, is looking for a multi-year deal. The Rangers will try to keep him in Arlington, but will receive a supplemental first-round pick if they're unable to.


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Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports the Cardinals are taking a serious run at A.J. Burnett.
The Burnett-to-St. Louis rumors have been floated since 2005, the last time he was a free agent. The Cardinals would likely have to outbid the Braves, who have offered a four-year, $60 million offer with a vesting option for a fifth. The Yankees, Red Sox and Orioles are also in the hunt.


Burnett, who turns 32 on Jan. 3, recently received an offer from the Braves, believed to be $60 million over four years with a vesting option for a fifth year. He is seeking a five-year, fully guaranteed deal, and the Yankees, Red Sox and Orioles are among the other teams that have shown interest in signing him.


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What exactly can we get for B.J. ?
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Post#2 » by beater97 » Mon Dec 8, 2008 9:02 pm

I wouldn't think we could get much for BJ...
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Post#3 » by s e n s i » Mon Dec 8, 2008 10:25 pm

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Post#4 » by Raptorian » Mon Dec 8, 2008 11:13 pm

The poor economy is going to play into the offseason this year. It sounds as though some of the players looking for a big pay day may be coming up short.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/ind ... &year=2008

And the prices in the corner outfield market are collapsing. There had been talk during the summer of Adam Dunn's getting $15 million a year this winter, but now his salary range might be little more than half of that. Pat Burrell might be looking at a situation where he could take a one-year deal with a good team, like the Rays. If the Giants ever got serious about Ramirez, they might balk at the talk of the $25 million salary, because as one GM said Wednesday, "For that, the Giants could probably sign Abreu and Burrell and have money left over


I know that Dunn is probably out for the jays, but perhaps this would allow the Jays to look at options they previously thought were too expensive. Obviously this idle speculation on my behalf.
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Post#5 » by Duncanfan » Tue Dec 9, 2008 12:19 am

Too bad JP burnt the bridge with Dunn. Adding Dunn and a B-type starting pitcher would have been possible in the space created by AJ.
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Post#6 » by Schad » Tue Dec 9, 2008 3:05 am

The Jays are apparently interested in giving Rafael Furcal $40m or more. Reasons why JP would offer that much include: John McDonald, the fact that Billy Beane was also interested in Furcal, and neurosyphilis. Not necessarily in that order.
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Post#7 » by spykelee » Tue Dec 9, 2008 6:24 am

JP not trading Ryan to the mets

http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/news/ar ... p&c_id=tor

"I don't see us trading B.J., to be honest with you," Ricciardi said on Monday at the Winter Meetings. "He's good at what he does, No. 1. No. 2, we've got him for two more years. I think as you keep looking down the road, we've still got a good club, and we're going to have a good club next year, too. It's tough to fill that spot."


Jays interested in Pavano

http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/news/ar ... p&c_id=tor

"It was a great meeting," said O'Connell, referring to his discussion with the Jays. "I think they have significant interest in Carl, so we'll see how it all plays out. We're still at the stage where I want to meet with all the teams that have interest. We don't want to leave any stone unturned in this process."

Given Toronto's financial situation, Pavano appeals to the Jays. Toronto doesn't have an excess of money to spend this offseason and is willing to consider a low-risk, high-reward possibility like Pavano.
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Post#8 » by Mak » Tue Dec 9, 2008 3:02 pm

Looks like BJ wont be going to the Mets. Looks like they will sign Francisco Rodriguez.
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Post#9 » by trellaine201 » Tue Dec 9, 2008 7:54 pm

Mak wrote:Looks like BJ wont be going to the Mets. Looks like they will sign Francisco Rodriguez.



I don't think the Jays would get a whole lot for BJ. BJ has never been the same since he cameback from surgery. But perhaps with rest etc during the offseason he can come back to the BJ in which we signed him for.
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Post#10 » by Michael Bradley » Tue Dec 9, 2008 9:23 pm

I remember reading that Toronto's payroll this year (unless they sign Burnett) will be around $84 million. If that is true (given the economy and Rogers cutting back employees I'm guessing it is) then that doesn't leave much room to add anyone significant. Which means the Pavano's and Penny's of the world for the pitching, and maybe a hitter who falls under the radar due to the falling economy for the offense.

I'm not expecting much, which might be a good thing since JP hasn't been particularly good at handing out long-term deals lately (Thomas in particular).
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Post#11 » by Duncanfan » Tue Dec 9, 2008 11:22 pm

Assuming we don't resign Burnett, which is becoming very likely, we won't be able to reallocate that money to any other signings. However, if we can dangle Overbay for starting pitching, spend around 4 million per on a Milton Bradley, a minimum deal for Pavano and perhaps a reasonable 7-8 mill per for Ibanez, we could have a pretty solid lineup

Marco SS / McDonald (Backup)
Hill 2B / Inglett (Backup)
Rios RF / Snider (Backup)
Wells CF / Rios (Backup)
Bradley DH / Snider (Backup)
Ibanez LF / Snider (Backup)
Lind 1B / Bautista (backup)
Rolen 3B / Bautista (backup)
Barajas C / Thigpen (backup)

That gives us enough pop in the batting lineup.


The pitchng rotation could look like:
Halladay (God Bless Him)
No. 2 starter via trade of Overbay
Litsch
Purcey
Cecil / Richmond / Romero / Pavano / Jensen

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BJ Ryan
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Post#12 » by trellaine201 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:20 am

Apparently the Jays and Royals are serious about Furcal. I say do it. Even with his injury history. How long has it been since we had a true shortstop/leadoff hitter?
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Post#13 » by Relentless88 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:51 am

I agree, I would love to have Furcal.
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Post#14 » by PJTucker » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:06 pm

Relentless88 wrote:I agree, I would love to have Furcal.



Count me on the Furcal bandwagon. In my opinion, he's much a better addition than Bradley. He provides a leadoff hitter with speed and a little pop. I'm also pretty sure he has one of the strongest arms in the big league (although I think I recall him going through a real poor stretch defensively last year).
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Post#15 » by PJTucker » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:09 pm

Duncanfan wrote:Assuming we don't resign Burnett, which is becoming very likely, we won't be able to reallocate that money to any other signings. However, if we can dangle Overbay for starting pitching, spend around 4 million per on a Milton Bradley, a minimum deal for Pavano and perhaps a reasonable 7-8 mill per for Ibanez, we could have a pretty solid lineup

Marco SS / McDonald (Backup)
Hill 2B / Inglett (Backup)
Rios RF / Snider (Backup)
Wells CF / Rios (Backup)
Bradley DH / Snider (Backup)
Ibanez LF / Snider (Backup)
Lind 1B / Bautista (backup)
Rolen 3B / Bautista (backup)
Barajas C / Thigpen (backup)

That gives us enough pop in the batting lineup.


The pitchng rotation could look like:
Halladay (God Bless Him)
No. 2 starter via trade of Overbay
Litsch
Purcey
Cecil / Richmond / Romero / Pavano / Jensen

Bullpen:
BJ Ryan
Carlson
Accardo
Downs
League
Tallet
Frasor
Wolfe
Camp


I think it's extremely optimistic to suggest you can dangle Overbay, a well below average starting 1B, for a No.2 pitcher (something every team is in desperate need of).
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Post#16 » by Griff83 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:46 pm

Why even sign anyone? This team isnt going anywhere next year regardless of a Furcal/Bradley/Ibanez signing or not.

This team needs to rebuild badly. Time to trade Halladay and attempt to peak in 2010.
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Post#17 » by Modern_epic » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:03 pm

Griff83 wrote:Why even sign anyone? This team isnt going anywhere next year regardless of a Furcal/Bradley/Ibanez signing or not.

This team needs to rebuild badly. Time to trade Halladay and attempt to peak in 2010.



I don't disagree that we should try somewhat of a rebuild (with a new GM, I would add), but you are suggesting we should try and trade someone who may have been the best pitcher in Baseball over the past 5 years to attempt to peak in... 1 year?

Who, exactly, do you think we are going to get that could replace him in 1 years time?
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Post#18 » by Relentless88 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:01 pm

Trade Halladay and there goes half the fan base with him.
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Post#19 » by spykelee » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:57 am

For all you glass half full people...


With major injuries to their starting rotation, Toronto Blue Jays manager Cito Gaston is writing off 2009 and looking towards 2010 instead.

As reported in Thursday's Toronto Sun, Gaston rcognizes that with injuries to starters Shaun Marcum and Dustin McGowan, it is unrealistic to expect much success this coming season.

"We're not moving backward, we're moving forward, we'll have a good team in 2010 and for a long time," the Blue Jays manager told reporters on the day the New York Yankees landed free agent starter CC Sabathia.

"We'll have Shaun Marcum back (in 2010, he'll miss all of 2009 because of elbow surgery) and we'll have Dustin McGowan back in May or June this year and we have some good kids like Travis Snider and Adam Lind," Gaston said. "But right now ... today ... we have three starters."

Gaston projected the Jays to have a "good team" for four or five years starting in 2010.

"I might not be here, but there is a foundation for a good club in 2010 ... of course we'd have to talk about signing Roy Halladay to a long-term deal again."
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Re: Latest News/rumours on the Jays December/8/08 

Post#20 » by vi3t » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:54 am

Ryan Howard was at Caesars last nite in Waterloo....of all the places in the world, what is he doin at a bar in waterloo?.....could this possibly be Jays related? highly unlikely but its always fun to speculate

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