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Re: Artest has two slightly torn ligaments... 

Post#21 » by Amel » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:49 am

Guy986 wrote:Bless Artest.

If this is Tmac, he'll take half the year off.


was about to write that 8-)
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Re: Artest has two slightly torn ligaments... 

Post#22 » by tisbee » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:01 am

Over the past 3 seasons McGrady has played in 184 games.
Artest has played in 183.
Yao has played in 160.

As far as McGrady's rehab work-or lack thereof-Richard Justice(certainly no huge fan of McGrady's)wrote that the Rockets were satisfied w/McGrady's seriousness in rehabbing this time compared to previous lackluster work in the past. The Rockets medical staff didn't clear McGrady for 100% weightlifting until after training camp started.
Could McGrady worked harder at rehab? Who knows. We do know Battier overdid his rehab and was lost for a month. Hindsight being 20/20 it looks like when McGrady complained of pain in camp the team should have completely shut him down til mid-Nov when the original estimate of 6 months would have been up and then get him ready for early Dec.
It should be kept in mind that when McGrady was complaining of pain in his knee last season the Rockets brushed him off,saying it was something minor. When he kept complaining they finally took a detailed look and discovered,yes,he did have serious damage.
Personally,I believe Wade's comments about his knee scared the s*** out of McGrady and he went into full panic mode.

I'm also a tad concerned about the Rockets medical team. While their strength and conditioning coach spent the summer w/Yao,Battier was screwing his rehab,McGrady's was obviously not handled properly and Morey stated they had no clue how Rafer would respond until Sept.
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Re: Artest has two slightly torn ligaments... 

Post#23 » by Baller 24 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:02 am

Also the famous "It feels great to be out of the first round", or "I feel our team is more talented than ever!" (2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009..)

Nah Shay, McGrady has been my favorite player since 2000; I know this dude like a hat, he IS a mentally weak player. When injuries happen to McGrady he complains and whines in a way that makes him look VERY weak, it might be hurting him, but come on man show us some mental preparation and male dominance; its always been this way (especially since '04 with the Magic).
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Re: Artest has two slightly torn ligaments... 

Post#24 » by TMU » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:17 am

tisbee wrote:Over the past 3 seasons McGrady has played in 184 games.
Artest has played in 183.
Yao has played in 160.

As far as McGrady's rehab work-or lack thereof-Richard Justice(certainly no huge fan of McGrady's)wrote that the Rockets were satisfied w/McGrady's seriousness in rehabbing this time compared to previous lackluster work in the past. The Rockets medical staff didn't clear McGrady for 100% weightlifting until after training camp started.
Could McGrady worked harder at rehab? Who knows. We do know Battier overdid his rehab and was lost for a month. Hindsight being 20/20 it looks like when McGrady complained of pain in camp the team should have completely shut him down til mid-Nov when the original estimate of 6 months would have been up and then get him ready for early Dec.
It should be kept in mind that when McGrady was complaining of pain in his knee last season the Rockets brushed him off,saying it was something minor. When he kept complaining they finally took a detailed look and discovered,yes,he did have serious damage.
Personally,I believe Wade's comments about his knee scared the s*** out of McGrady and he went into full panic mode.

I'm also a tad concerned about the Rockets medical team. While their strength and conditioning coach spent the summer w/Yao,Battier was screwing his rehab,McGrady's was obviously not handled properly and Morey stated they had no clue how Rafer would respond until Sept.


Read the article again. The Rockets are satisfied with McGrady's current rehab. This implies that McGrady's rehab didn't go well in off-season. Well, he's learned his lesson and I'm glad he's taking it seriously.
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Re: Artest has two slightly torn ligaments... 

Post#25 » by CuttingEdge » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:20 am

To be honest, TMAC isn't all that bad as I say or others have proclaimed, sorry. It's just that the Rocket's training and medical staff aren't first class but more of bargains because the Rockets have a budget they have to meet and are some how unable to exceed. You know why Keith Jones wasn't fired long ago? Because he's cheap and probably paid significantly less than say the Laker's trainer. The Rocket's budget is consumed by the payroll of TMac, Yao, and Artest. They are well worth it and I hope neither one of these guys get traded. They should use their own wealth to get training and medical attention the Rockets are unable to provide. I love TMac, Yao, Artest, Battier and company and want to see these guys win a championship together.
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Post#26 » by ShaY » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:12 am

Baller 24 wrote:Also the famous "It feels great to be out of the first round", or "I feel our team is more talented than ever!" (2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009..)

Nah Shay, McGrady has been my favorite player since 2000; I know this dude like a hat, he IS a mentally weak player. When injuries happen to McGrady he complains and whines in a way that makes him look VERY weak, it might be hurting him, but come on man show us some mental preparation and male dominance; its always been this way (especially since '04 with the Magic).


I agree with you and I have been a T-Mac fan since those days too , he is not so strong mentally but he did play through injuries before in his career
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Post#27 » by ShaY » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:14 am

CuttingEdge wrote:To be honest, TMAC isn't all that bad as I say or others have proclaimed, sorry. It's just that the Rocket's training and medical staff aren't first class but more of bargains because the Rockets have a budget they have to meet and are some how unable to exceed. You know why Keith Jones wasn't fired long ago? Because he's cheap and probably paid significantly less than say the Laker's trainer. The Rocket's budget is consumed by the payroll of TMac, Yao, and Artest. They are well worth it and I hope neither one of these guys get traded. They should use their own wealth to get training and medical attention the Rockets are unable to provide. I love TMac, Yao, Artest, Battier and company and want to see these guys win a championship together.


Keith Jones was with the US team in the olympics , I doubt he is cheap.
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Re: Artest has two slightly torn ligaments... 

Post#28 » by Baller 24 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:23 pm

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Baller 24 wrote:Also the famous "It feels great to be out of the first round", or "I feel our team is more talented than ever!" (2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009..)

Nah Shay, McGrady has been my favorite player since 2000; I know this dude like a hat, he IS a mentally weak player. When injuries happen to McGrady he complains and whines in a way that makes him look VERY weak, it might be hurting him, but come on man show us some mental preparation and male dominance; its always been this way (especially since '04 with the Magic).


I agree with you and I have been a T-Mac fan since those days too , he is not so strong mentally but he did play through injuries before in his career


The injuries in his early days with Orlando weren't bad at all. They would sideline him through short stints, and it was only for about 2-3 games. Until 2004, and there on, he experienced much more trouble. This was going to happen especially due to his poor conditioning, but that's how he is. He will complain and sometimes even start talking out of his ass (blame others); that's just his nature, just hope everything gets better for him, and proves everyone wrong. He also thought he was some kind of doctor this season, kind of surprised me from his usual "I gotta take some time off, I'll be back in a little" kind of thing.
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Re: Artest has two slightly torn ligaments... 

Post#29 » by 10scott10 » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:20 am

also commonly known as a sprain, he should be back soon
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Re: Artest has two slightly torn ligaments... 

Post#30 » by moofs » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:18 am

Scott, that, sir, is an awesome tag.
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