Diaw or David Lee?

[CarolinaCash]

The hot rumor today by Bonnell and the CNNSI via the New York Daily News is that Diaw will be shipped to the Knicks. In return the Bobcats would get David Lee (he's averaging 10 reb a game) and someone else to match the salary. Apparently, Diaw is a favorite of D'Antoni and Larry Brown is good friends with Donnie Walsh.

Would you rather see what Diaw can do here or would you rather go the safe route and get David Lee? The problem is that he's a free agent next year. Diaw definitely has a high ceiling and is intriguing to see what he can do with lots of playing time.

[BigSlam]

I really can't see the Knicks trading for Diaw. They have gone out of their way to create cap room for the 2010 sweepstakes. Diaw would soak a lot of that cap space up.

But if it came down to it, I think I would rather Diaw.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

David Lee.

Boris Diaw for Malik Rose & Lee works in the trade checker.

[doc.end]

Not that I dislike Lee , but this wouldn't make sense now. I think we traded for Diaw to keep him and for a reason (how it will turn out it's another thing).

[BigSlam]

Thing about Diaw is that he can play point forward and facilitate some of the offense, which is something we are really going to need. Adding Lee would make us even more offensively challanged than we already are.

[Willie Beamen]

The Catz can't trade Diaw right now unless it's a one for one type of deal. So I can't see a David Lee for Diaw trade this season because the salary don't match. That person who wrote that in the New York Daily News doesn't know the league rules.

[spectre_]

The Catz can't trade Diaw right now unless it's a one for one type of deal. So I can't see a David Lee for Diaw trade this season because the salary don't match. That person who wrote that in the New York Daily News doesn't know the league rules.

Does it have to be one for one or does it have to only be Diaw going out from our side?

The latter works in both ESPN & RGM trade machines:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &te=&cash=

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=4862460

[Felton for Pres]

Diaw definitely has a high ceiling and is intriguing to see what he can do with lots of playing time.

I don't think we can use the word "definitely" here. Everything I've read imply that he "should" have a high ceiling but he hasn't really demonstrated that lately. People assume that's because he hasn't played the minutes he needs to do so. I am not saying you're wrong, I am just saying that sometimes a known commodity is more valuable than potential, particularly if that potential hasn't been on display for 2yrs.

I like David Lee, but I highly doubt he'd re-sign here next year.

[Willie Beamen]

The Catz can't trade Diaw right now unless it's a one for one type of deal. So I can't see a David Lee for Diaw trade this season because the salary don't match. That person who wrote that in the New York Daily News doesn't know the league rules.

Does it have to be one for one or does it have to only be Diaw going out from our side?

The latter works in both ESPN & RGM trade machines:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &te=&cash=

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=4862460

Your right Diaw is the only player that could be traded from the Bobcats side of things. So he could be traded for Lee and another player from NY side of things. My thing is Diaw brings more to the table then Lee does. I think Lee is more New York Hype then anything. What player has left New York via a trade and has done good after the trade?

[rsavaj]

Diaw definitely has a high ceiling and is intriguing to see what he can do with lots of playing time.

I don't think we can use the word "definitely" here. Everything I've read imply that he "should" have a high ceiling but he hasn't really demonstrated that lately. People assume that's because he hasn't played the minutes he needs to do so. I am not saying you're wrong, I am just saying that sometimes a known commodity is more valuable than potential, particularly if that potential hasn't been on display for 2yrs.

I like David Lee, but I highly doubt he'd re-sign here next year.

When he's featured correctly, Diaw flourishes. D'Antoni went all 05/06(Boris at point center) in the last two games in the playoffs against San Antonio this year, and this is what Boris did

Game 4: 20 points, 10 rebounds, 8 assists
Game 5: 22 points, 8 rebounds, 8 assists

A lot of Suns fans are low on him b/c he's not as aggressive as he should be, but this year he was looking for his own shot, and he looked comfortable in his own skin. However, he really, really thrives as a point center who starts.

I really hope he does well for you guys, because honestly, even though Amare is spectacular, I honestly believe Boris is more skilled. He's the better passer(one of the best passers in the league, amazing court vision), the better defender(way better), the better teammate, the better post player.

I am worried about how Larry will use him though...I don't know if he'll use Boris like the point center he actually is.

[spectre_]

I am worried about how Larry will use him though...I don't know if he'll use Boris like the point center he actually is.

I think LB is going to love him IF he puts forth the effort. He has the skill sets we desperately need (typically we've only had ONE guy in the starting lineup who has average/above average handles and court vision).

First time he comes in fat or acts lazy tho I wouldn't want to be him.

[e4Nf6]

I'll take Diaw thank you.....

Better player all around, and I suppose you are not getting any cap room because you have to take back Jeffries/Rose or someone.

[Dexmor]

I think on any other team Lee is the right pick but Lee is to similar to Okufor, PF's who grab rebounds and score 15 but mostly off garbadge points and not really playmakers or guys that you just throw the ball into although Okufor seems to be improving on that,
Diaw can get Okufor some free baskets and get him going,
Diaw is one of those guys were he is as good as he wants to be.
Lets see how good he is. He could be a goto guy and end up flourishing.

[rsavaj]

Interesting stuff on Diaw/Brown from our beat writer:

* Nobody in league circles seems to think that Brown and Boris Diaw are a good fit. Diaw is going to instantly start but he may not be the post presence that the Bobcats talk about needing. Then again, Diaw thrived when he was a bigger part of the offense and Diaw immediately talked about how he was looking forward to playing for a coach like Brown. After Mike Woodson, Diaw was great for Mike D'Antoni so maybe his distasted for how Terry Porter used him will lead to a productive relationship with Brown. The Bobcats are high on Alexis Ajinca, a 20-year-old, 7-foot Frenchman, and hope Diaw's presence as the captain of the French national team will play a role in his development.

[StutterStep]

Your right Diaw is the only player that could be traded from the Bobcats side of things. So he could be traded for Lee and another player from NY side of things. My thing is Diaw brings more to the table then Lee does. I think Lee is more New York Hype then anything. What player has left New York via a trade and has done good after the trade?

Ariza, Balkman... Mardy Collins: TBD

[Bassman]

I also prefer to see how Boris works out here. I would have been happy to get Lee in some other deal, but I think Diaw and Bell will add dividends to this squad. Try using these guys together with Okafor, Crash and DJ at the point, with Felts providing dual sub roles plus Ammo, Jinx and (hopefully) Juwan Howard (when you comin' in JH???) as our key bench players. Yes Ajinca is hardly ready but if they're not going to send him to D league get him minutes as our reserve C.

Still would not surprise me to see Crash traded for another big and LB move Diaw to SF.

[Paydro70]

I think for many teams Lee would have to be preferable... Lee is more athletic and a WAY better rebounder, but he's not much as a defender and thrives in an uptempo system (like NYK). That makes me think Diaw is better for Larry.

On the other hand, maybe Diaw turns out to be nothing whatsoever and we're paying a below-average guy way too much money for 3 more years and we'll look back on these opinions and laugh (more likely cry).

[SamBone]

Thing about Diaw is that he can play point forward and facilitate some of the offense, which is something we are really going to need. Adding Lee would make us even more offensively challanged than we already are.

That is why Larry would do it. I think he wants to win games scoring 65 points a game.

On a serious note, I would like to see Diaw play next to Mek. I think they should match up well.

[Walt Cronkite]

My initial thought when a friend told me about this was "OMG WE SHOULD DEFINITELY DO THIS IT MAKES SENSE FOR BOTH TEAMS!!!!"

Now that I've had time to weigh it I'll amend that thought. If the Jrich trade would've been a 3 way trade that landed us Lee and whatever else we needed to get it done (Malik Rose, as someone suggested, who I have no doubt is STILL a LB guy.) I think the reaction on the board would've been much better, here's why:

1. Lee was productive for Brown, Diaw is the great unknown.

2. We're kinda hoping for best case scenario Boris Diaw right now while Lee is a known commodity that maybe doesn't work out with our current collection of talent, but at least will go rebound, hustle, shoot a high percentage (basically an upgraded Jared Dudley). This leads me to my next point...

3. Lee's contract is much more favorable. If Diaw plays to justify his contract, AWESOME TRADE and we get exactly what we needed. If Diaw doesn't play up to his career bests than we've lost the trade and no GM in the league wants him, making him an unmovable contract. On the other hand, Lee either resigns with us for a reasonable deal, we acquire an asset through a S&T, or he takes his game overseas similarly to how Josh Childress did (meaning I can't imagine GMs that are trying to be fiscally conservative in general getting into a bidding war over Lee)

Unfortunately, this didn't happen. It would've been a MUCH safer move, but we didn't do it...so let's see what we've got in Boris and hope for the best.

[rsavaj]

As long as Larry uses Diaw as an enabler/someone who will grease the wheels of the offense and keep thing moving, I think you guys are in good shape.