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BruceO wrote:haha to think i was thinking about this board writing an open letter to the team and it's management asking wtf they are doing. It might have begun, dear team, are we tanking? and for who
WizarDynasty wrote:Leonsis.. Please direct manage to make trades for player with true all star potential...not just offensive specialist who win popularity contest. A true all is dominant in his position on both sides of the ball...otherwise arenas is an offensive specialist. An allstar gives you such a superior advantage at position that dramatically swings the game into your favor. If arenas was able to shutdown hinrich well below his average and at the same time produce above average on offense...then that significantly swings the game in your favor. If arenas scores his points...but also lets the guy he is guarding score his average...arens isn't really changing the dynamic of the other teams offense. I.E. if arenas scores 30 points a game and he goes against hinrich who normally scores 20 pts a game..if arenas scores 30 pts and game and hold hinrich to 10 pts a game...arenas forces the other team to find another player to score hinrichs 10pts that he normally gives the team. Arenas doesn't do that. He allows the player he is guarding to scores his average or even above average and not affect the offensive chemistry of the other team. I.E. lebron. when he guards caron, he reduces caron's scoring average while at the same time...improving his scoring average. that is a super star. We pay arenas to be a superstar but he doesn't produce on the court like a superstar.
Please fire Grunfeld.
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Just for giggles, go visit basketball-reference.com and do a head-to-head of Gilbert Arenas vs Jason Kidd, vs Tony Parker, vs Sam Cassell, vs Chauncey Billups, and vs Chris Paul.
I know for a fact he lost vs the first three very decisively in important categories and in wins and losses.
yungal07 wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Just for giggles, go visit basketball-reference.com and do a head-to-head of Gilbert Arenas vs Jason Kidd, vs Tony Parker, vs Sam Cassell, vs Chauncey Billups, and vs Chris Paul.
I know for a fact he lost vs the first three very decisively in important categories and in wins and losses.
i went to Br.com and arenas did struggle against kidd, who has been the best point guard in the 2000's. he killed paul and parker last year and the season before. he also killed chauncey too. i'm not sure about the head to head numbers, but looking at the past few boxscores -- i'd say he's killed all those point guards except for J. Kidd.
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Just for giggles, go visit basketball-reference.com and do a head-to-head of Gilbert Arenas vs Jason Kidd, vs Tony Parker, vs Sam Cassell, vs Chauncey Billups, and vs Chris Paul.
I know for a fact he lost vs the first three very decisively in important categories and in wins and losses.
I think Gil when healthy is a tremendous scoring PG and one of the best ever at hitting game-winning shots. On the other hand, he routinely plays bad defense. Guys like Mo Williams and Ramon Sessions and Raymond Felton and Damon Jones all have hit shots to win games with Gil guarding them. Elite guards like the ones above (Cassell from a couple seasons back) routinely have their way with Gil.
In my book, Gilbert, like Antawn and Caron are good to great offensive players. Period.
WizarDynasty wrote:yungal07 wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Just for giggles, go visit basketball-reference.com and do a head-to-head of Gilbert Arenas vs Jason Kidd, vs Tony Parker, vs Sam Cassell, vs Chauncey Billups, and vs Chris Paul.
I know for a fact he lost vs the first three very decisively in important categories and in wins and losses.
i went to Br.com and arenas did struggle against kidd, who has been the best point guard in the 2000's. he killed paul and parker last year and the season before. he also killed chauncey too. i'm not sure about the head to head numbers, but looking at the past few boxscores -- i'd say he's killed all those point guards except for J. Kidd.
When you say killed, are you saying that arenas held the pg below their normal averages and at the same time maintain or exceeded his scoring average? i know that paul and billups don't average as many points per game as arenas..but did arenas hold paul and billups below their "personal pts per game for the season". or even field goal average for the season?
Dat2U wrote:Glibert is so overrated. We can't win with him. We played our best ball last your when he was out and he came back and ruined chemitry and we've been struggling ever since. He's a cancer. We need to build the team around Caron, who along with Jamison are true leaders and mature veterans. When Gil gets healthy trade him for an expiring contract & a PG. Maybe Portland gives us LaFrentz & Steve Blake.
Give Butler & Jamison are real PG like Blake and we'd be so much better. Nick Young can take up the scoring for Gil and be just as good if not better. Plus he's long limbed and can block shots well for a 2guard. Nick also has quick feet and decent lateral acceleration which is a must for a perimeter defender.
I envison lineups like this:
SB, NY, CB, AJ & BH
SB, CB, AJ, AB & BH
Both lineups give us scoring and decent size. For a different look we can do either:
DS, NY, DM, AJ & AB
JC, NY, CB, AJ & JM
JC, DS, AJ, AB & JM
When we really want to go big we can look like this:
DS, AJ, AB, JM & BH
JC, CB, AJ, JM & BH
DS, NY, AJ, JM & BH
hands11 wrote:Dat2U wrote:Glibert is so overrated. We can't win with him. We played our best ball last your when he was out and he came back and ruined chemitry and we've been struggling ever since. He's a cancer. We need to build the team around Caron, who along with Jamison are true leaders and mature veterans. When Gil gets healthy trade him for an expiring contract & a PG. Maybe Portland gives us LaFrentz & Steve Blake.
Give Butler & Jamison are real PG like Blake and we'd be so much better. Nick Young can take up the scoring for Gil and be just as good if not better. Plus he's long limbed and can block shots well for a 2guard. Nick also has quick feet and decent lateral acceleration which is a must for a perimeter defender.
I envison lineups like this:
SB, NY, CB, AJ & BH
SB, CB, AJ, AB & BH
Both lineups give us scoring and decent size. For a different look we can do either:
DS, NY, DM, AJ & AB
JC, NY, CB, AJ & JM
JC, DS, AJ, AB & JM
When we really want to go big we can look like this:
DS, AJ, AB, JM & BH
JC, CB, AJ, JM & BH
DS, NY, AJ, JM & BH
I hear what your saying. Those first group of line ups I've been talking about for years.
I go back to the team with Hughes and Gil. We needed a true PG and a Power forward.
Did that ever get addressed ?
We had Blake and Knight and let them both go.
But this kind of Gil trade isn't going to happen any time soon. At this point I can only hope he has been watching what the best point guards in the league are doing and is willing to adjust his game.
I'll say it again. There has never been a Championship team with a top 5 league leader in scoring playing PG. Gil needs to come start the game creating opportunities for his teammates and driving.
He can Hibachi in the 4th if needed and be the go to guy in tight games. If that is the game he plays, he will be great for us.