Trade Idea Thread

[ARodr21]

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4/ TEAM Trade Chi/Wash/Sac/L.A.Clips

Wizards Trade
A. Daniels
E.Thomas
Wiz Get
Larry Hughes
Mike Taylor (filler)
Larry seems to be back to his old self of playing well and would provide the scoring punch they need at SG which Nick Young is not getting it done. Potential Wiz can have a core of Hughes, Arenas, Butler, and Jamison getting hot and in a groove heading into the playoffs. Potential development of Mcgee and Blatche can make them very tuff. Hughes can win them games in the time being which Thomas and Daniels can not.

Kings Trade
Kenny Thomas
Kings Receive
Noce
2009 or 2010 protected 1st round pick
Kings make this deal for the plain talent upgrade that it is and I think Sac Town would approve due to the fact that their were talks initiated by Sac Town earlier this season for Noce and they were talking Brad Miller at the time. Noce BTW makes PT room for Thompson next to Hawes and Garcia can play super 6thman backing up Noce and KMart at the SG/SF positions.

Clips Trade
Kaman
Mike Taylor (filler)
Clips Recieve
Noah
Hinrich
The Clippers get a young Big to develop behind Camby and possibly be a cheaper replacement next season if they chose not to resign him. Hinrich gives them a complimentary SG to Davis and a nice back up to him.

Bulls Trade
Hinrich
Noce
Hughes
Noah
Bulls Receive
Daniels
E.Thomas
K. Thomas
C. Kaman
Outside of Kaman these are all 2010 friendly contracts. The Kaman addition is still friendly to a 2010 plan because a LEGIT CENTER is what Amare and Bosh would want to play along side as a POWER Forward. As for this season and next.... Daniels serves as a decent backup PG to Rose (better then Hunter) and he can play spot minutes at SG. Kenny Thomas and E. Thomas are nothing but serviceable bodies whose contracts expire 2010 and provide depth until then.

[jgustav1]

Clippers not interested in this trash trade, Kaman is not being moved for backup depth.

[Hoops23]

^The worst part of the trade is trading Nocioni for a srub like Kenny Thomas.

[Neptune_Balla21]

Bucks fan here...
Idk if this trade has been brought up on this board yet or not, but it was proposed in our forum the other day... curious to see what you guys think. 3-Way trade (MIL, LAC, TOR)

Clippers Trade: Marcus Camby

Clippers Receive: Andrea Bargnani, Joey Graham, Roko Ukic

Why for Clips?:
Gives you guys a young promising prospect in Bargs, Graham expires and Ukic is just there to make things work $$-wise. Nudges your team in the right direction towards solving your frontcourt issues.

Raps Trade: Anthony Parker, Andrea Bargnani, Joey Graham, Roko Ukic

Raps Receive:Michael Redd

Why For Raps?:
Since many speculate Bosh is gone in 2010, the Raptors are wanting to make a run NOW. The guys they have at the moment aren't cutting it and this trade gives them one more all-star in Redd to add to the Bosh/O'Neal frontcourt. Gives Calderon nice targets in Redd/Kapono.

Bucks Trade: Michael Redd

Bucks Receive: Marcus Camby

Why For Bucks?:
Allows us to remain competitive for the remainder of the season while gaining some expiring contracts as well. Finally gives us a defensive big man to put beside Bogut and brings us a high energy guy like Parker.

Take it for what it's worth but many thought this was one of the best trades ever posted. Seems to make sense for all parties involved. Please comment and express your opinions. Modifications are appreciated as well...

[Forte IV]

I actually dont think the Bucks would pull the trigger cuz they giving up their best scorer for a guy who gets 10 a game. The Raps might do it, but not sure on this one.

[Neptune_Balla21]

I think the Bucks WOULD pull the trigger on this deal... saying that as a Bucks fan. We are a better team without Michael Redd. We need a defensive presence (Camby) and a guard who plays hard on both ends of the floor (Parker) and cap space. This trade fills all of those needs.

[Ben]

What about this deal for Kaman:

Bulls trade:
Drew Gooden (expiring)
Joakim Noah or Tyrus Thomas
2009 1st round draft pick (top 10 protected)

Bulls receive:
Chris Kaman

Warriors trade:
Jamal Crawford (after 60 days)

Warriors receive:
Drew Gooden

Clippers trade:
Chris Kaman

Clippers receive:
Jamal Crawford
Joakim Noah or Tyrus Thomas
Bulls 2009 draft pick (top 10 protected)

Clips get a guard who can score 18-20ppg plus a young 6'11 defender (who's been playing like crap after an offseason of no conditioning but who's starting to come around) who can replace Camby when he declines unduly. Or Tyrus Thomas. Plus a 1st round draft pick.

Clips could have Drew straight up instead of Crawford if you wanted an expiring contract, but I figured that Drew and Zbo wouldn't be the best frontcourt pairing for the time being (when Camby's not in the game).

Warriors would probably sub in Corey Maggette for Crawford if you had any desire to get him back, but I kinda doubted that. Is that right?

Any takers?

[ClipperDomination]

I don't think the Warriors would trade Craw, and we definitely do not want Maggs back.

[Ben]

I don't think the Warriors would trade Craw, and we definitely do not want Maggs back.

I can understand about the Clips not wanting Maggs back. But I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors were willing to deal Crawford. I don't think that they traded to get him per se; they traded to get rid of Harrington. Crawford is playing OK, but no better than he did last year, and he's shooting 40% from the field again. The bottom line is that GS has too many damned guards. Unless they think that Ellis is simply shot and will never get back to any kind of high level, they're looking at: Ellis, Crawford, SJax, Azubuike, Watson, Morrow, Belinelli, Nelson, and then Maggette, who's a 2/3 (even if it's primarily 3). That's just incredible. And their frontcourt is very thin right now, b/c they don't seem to trust Randolph, Wright, or Turiaf to play big minutes. So they continually do stupid things like play Maggette or SJax at the 4. That's why I thought they might want to dump Crawford's contract (which goes on for 2 more years), given that he duplicates a lot of what they already have, and acquire Gooden as an expiring big man who can score in an uptempo offense.

My question to Clippers fans is, IF Crawford were available along with Tyrus or Noah and a 1st rounder, would that be of interest? Obviously this stuff is incredibly unlikely to happen, but I'm just curious as to what Clipper fans are hoping for IF Kaman's on the block. If I were the Clips I wouldn't trade Kaman at all.

[thanumba2clippersfan]

I don't want to trade Kaman either. We will have strength in our front court with Kaman, Camby, and Randolph; no other team in the NBA has a front court like that.

[corgiBear8]

I don't like these trades where we give quality for quantity (give 1 get back 2). Presently, I'd like the Clippers to get better, and I worry less about depth right now. I definitely don't want to take any prospects or projects either, unless we are going into total rebuild mode.

Joakim's skills are not there, he's not in great shape, and he doesn't give it 100%...I'd stay away from him. Bargani...he'll give me more headaches than Kaman with his inconsistent play.

[Hype97]

ok, maybe I am starting to get a little delusional, but I am warming up to the possibility of trading Kaman.... to the Bulls no less.... for a package including Larry Hughes.

remember back when we had to worry about redundancy in the front court? Kaman had finally made a break through in the absence of Brand, and all the talk was Kamans numbers were going to take the biggest hit when they reunited. well, if Brand was going to hurt Kamans game, I dont even want to think about what will happen when hes next to Randolph. other than allowing plenty of opportunities for blocks, i cant really come up with too many reasons why i think it will work. also, i think most people would agree with me that Baron seems to flow much better with Randolph than he does with Kaman. i might even be willing to climb out on a limb and say Randolph seems to be a better fit for Dunleavys offense than Kaman.

ok, after that long winded response as to why i think Kaman should be the one to be traded (it doesnt hurt that he has the most trade of the 3 on out front court either ) lets get into what we need. every one should agree we need another wing player so we can send mardy collins to the 3rd string where he belongs. is Ricky Davis that guy? i defiantly have my doubts. i think we need more defense and (as much as some of us may not like) somebody that fits into the system atleast a little bit. larry can also handle the ball which i think is especially useful for this team. other than that, i really think we could use a big man who plays above the rim and does so with some ferocity. Tyrus Thomas seems to fit this mold to a t, and hes a nice young prospect to put next to Thornton and Gordon as well.

I checked the trade checker, this worked;
Kaman
Hart
Ricky Davis

for

Tyrus Thomas
Larry Hughes

what do you guys think? oh, and i almost forgot to mention, this gives us back our capspace in 2010.

[heathmalc]

Chicago would send you a #1 pick, a 2nd rounder, Hughes and Thomas for that package. But you'd be silly to take it.

Thomas is a constant complainer, as is Hughes. Hughes is a guy that cannot make a shot if his life depended on it, and he is ALWAYS injured!!!! This would be a REALLY,REALLY,REALLY bad deal for the Clippers.

Here is a better deal with the Cavs:

How about Eric Snow + 2 1st round picks (unprotected) plus cash , and the rights to Sasha Kaun (currently considered the top big man in europe), for Kaman.

The picks wont be high... but Eric snow makes 2 million less (7,000,000) so Clips get IMMEDIATE relief... plus he is "unofficially" retired, so he wont be a cap-hold next summer. Sasha Kaun may be a bust once he gets here...or he may be an all-star. It is really hard to say about young big men. But he is very talented.

[Leto]

The Bulls deal is miles better than that Cavs proposal-- unless you're smoking crack.

[Ben]

Chicago would send you a #1 pick, a 2nd rounder, Hughes and Thomas for that package. But you'd be silly to take it.

Thomas is a constant complainer, as is Hughes. Hughes is a guy that cannot make a shot if his life depended on it, and he is ALWAYS injured!!!! This would be a REALLY,REALLY,REALLY bad deal for the Clippers.

Here is a better deal with the Cavs:

How about Eric Snow + 2 1st round picks (unprotected) plus cash , and the rights to Sasha Kaun (currently considered the top big man in europe), for Kaman.

The picks wont be high... but Eric snow makes 2 million less (7,000,000) so Clips get IMMEDIATE relief... plus he is "unofficially" retired, so he wont be a cap-hold next summer. Sasha Kaun may be a bust once he gets here...or he may be an all-star. It is really hard to say about young big men. But he is very talented.

As Leto wrote earlier, this Cleveland proposal is an absolute joke compared not only with the Bulls trade that a Clipper fan proposed earlier, but compared with many other proposals vetted here. Eric Snow doesn't even play! He's working out a medical retirement package-- and, by the way, I don't think that any team he's traded to would get the same relief that the Cavs could get if his insurance winds up paying some of his salary. The proposal is a PURE salary dump, plus two future, low draft picks. WTF?

Tyrus Thomas has been a big disappointment thus far but he's far from a constant complainer. That was written by someone who obviously doesn't follow the Bulls closely. Thomas just put up 16/5 with 3 steals and 2 blocks in 24 minutes, and although he was being benched by Del Negro for a while before that, a week and a half earlier he put up 14/13/3 in 32 minutes. He's inconsistent, yes, but can still be quite good.

Hughes has been an absolute delight. Sure, our standards had been set low, but Hughes has been our 3rd-best player this season. He's shooting his highest FG% ever, and is shooting 44% from 3-point range, and has been playing very good defense. It helps that he's been playing alongside Derrick Rose, but it would also help if he were playing alongside Baron Davis. And his salary only lasts 1 year longer than Eric Snow's, and then it's off the books before 2010. Plus the Bulls would give up at least 1 first rounder, probably a 2nd rounder as well, if there were a package involving Hughes, Tyrus or Noah, and possibly Thabo if you were to want him.

I still doubt that Kaman gets traded at all, but that Cleveland proposal and the attendant evaluations, were just putrid regardless.

[ClipperEric]

Baron Davis for Steve Nash.

[Leto]

Baron Davis for Steve Nash.

Thats not totally out of the question as some may think. Davis does not fit with Dunleavy's philosophy. Then again, I don't think Davis fits with what Kerr is trying to do either.

[ClipperEric]

A week ago I would have loved to see this deal, but now that we're winning, I think we need to give it a chance and see how we mesh. Man I love Z-Bo, I had no idea how good he was.

[ClipperDomination]

Kaman for Tayshaun swap?

Works on tradechecker...

[Ben]

Kaman for Tayshaun swap?

Works on tradechecker...

That's OK talent-wise, and the Pistons would probably do it, but why would the Clips want Tay? Don't you have Thornton penciled in at the 3, Prince's primary position, and Zbo at the 4, where Tay can provide backup minutes?

Tay really isn't a SG, but that's what you seem to need most. So you would be trading Kaman for a very capable 6th man to back up the 3 and 4? And one who doesn't give you any salary relief in terms of the 2010 FA market? I thought that one of the big reasons for trading Kaman at all, which I wouldn't do in the first place, was to free up some of the cap space that Zach ate up?