Jazz/Pacers

[HicksvsKnicks08]

Pacer Fan,

I saw this quote from hoopsworld :

Arguably Boozer has been a bust in Utah - if you look big picture. For the first year or two he was hurt nonstop, miserable and in trade rumors. Eventually he righted his body (and his mind) and the Jazz had a great playoff run. Last year Boozer really struggled against the Lakers in the postseason - and this year he's been capably replaced by Paul Millsap. There's a high probability that Boozer looks to leave after this season - if the Jazz could land a top notch two-guard in his place - that's probably something they should consider. Now will they? I'm not so sure - there's something to be said for having depth and a chance to win in the here and now (once Boozer gets healthy).

It made me think of our situation and the fact that we drafted Brandon Rush , we could maybe take a chance and move Dunleavy. He will be on the court again in January

One trade example

http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/


My question is what is the board thought on whom the Jazz should keep Milsap or Boozer?

I think a Dunleavy package could benefit, not sure who means the most value but would love to know your thoughs.

Thanks and good luck

[hoops4life]

How do you get the "f" out of "way"?

The only player on Indiana that I would be remotely be interested in is Granger and even further down the list Rasho and Foster.

I will renounce my Jazz fanship and never attend or watch game if Dunleavy or Wally S ever put a Jazz uniform on.

We do not need Dunleavy. The article talks about us trading Boozer for a top notch two-guard (which I don't really think we need anymore) and you come back and offer us Brandon Rush.

[HicksvsKnicks08]

How do you get the "f" out of "way"?

Wow, a lot of anger comming from the Salt Lake area that was unwarranted

First I never offered Rush, if you look at the link it was Dunleavy, whom while you are trashing puts up substanually better numbers than your current SG.

The question I was asking was whom did most Jazz fans want to keep Milsap or Boozer and why

so please, "lighten up Francis"

[HicksvsKnicks08]

The only player on Indiana that I would be remotely be interested in is Granger

LMAO at "remotley" interested in

Yes Granger is an average player we would have to beg you to take

[carrottop12]

If the Jazz move Boozer to Indiana you would have to include Granger and probably another player at Dunleavy's level and the Jazz would probably throw Almond in the trade.

[fivas14]

I don't understand why other fans and Jazz fans bring up trades here. KOC will not make a trade involving boozer...we might as well get used to it.

[HicksvsKnicks08]

If the Jazz move Boozer to Indiana you would have to include Granger and probably another player at Dunleavy's level and the Jazz would probably throw Almond in the trade.

So that out of the way

Who is the priority to keep Milsap or Boozer?
Do you realistically thinkn you can keep both?

What would it tkae to get Milsap?

[carrottop12]

Jazz won't keep both. And seeing that Millsap is an RFA, they will probably let another team decide their fate.

If Millsap gets some offer at 12 Mil or something for 3-5 years, they may let him walk and throw everything they have at Boozer.

If Millsap gets offered like 8-10 Mil a year for 3-5 then the Jazz will likely let Boozer walk, and use the alternate 8 mil they have on resigning other players or going after a different FA.

But then again, who knows. Boozer could easily be traded by then, or Memo, or even Andrei.

If the Jazz trade either Memo or AK the you can guarantee Boozer will be back.

[HicksvsKnicks08]

Thanks,

If you were GM, who would you keep and why?

[hoops4life]

I apologize. I didn't read it fully and now know that you weren't offering Rush.

That makes your proposal of Dunleavy even worse. Dunleavy does put up decent numbers, not good enough to warrant his contract in my mind. We have a bit of a log jam at the 2 & 3. Taking Boozer away and adding another 2/3 isn't going to help at all. We have good young guys at the 2. We don't need Brewer to score 20 a night. We need him to step up from time to time but we really only need him to play above average defense.

If Boozer is traded (which he won't be) we must get a 4 or 5 in return.

I said that I am remotely interested in Granger. That doesn't mean that he is an average player. He is well above that. I am fine with Ak and what he does for the team. Trading Boozer for Granger is going to create more of a logjam and Granger will command a high salary which the jazz won't be able to pay.

There is no way that the Jazz GM even considers moving Boozer without Granger, Rush, Foster, and/or Rasho combo with Granger being the main piece.

Not 100% sure which the FO thinks is a higher priority. I wouldn't be surprised to lose Boozer and keep Millsap because he plays much better defense and will cost less.

[HicksvsKnicks08]

said that I am remotely interested in Granger. That doesn't mean that he is an average

hoops, sorry If I came off a bit rude

I perosnally would rather have Milsap, because he seems as productive, or close to it, costs less and is injured far less

I think awhile back there was talk of Foster in the mix, so maybe Foster, another player and future no 1 (which looks like lottery now)

[fivas14]

"and is injured far less"

Millsap hasn't missed a game in his career. *knock on wood*

[HicksvsKnicks08]

Tracy McGrady / Danny Granger

Thanks for the recognition,

Dare I say at this point would one be ludicris to take Granger over McGrady, considering his injury past

[fivas14]

I haven't updated that. D Rose would be ahead of Kidd also.

[hoops4life]

said that I am remotely interested in Granger. That doesn't mean that he is an average

hoops, sorry If I came off a bit rude

I perosnally would rather have Milsap, because he seems as productive, or close to it, costs less and is injured far less

I think awhile back there was talk of Foster in the mix, so maybe Foster, another player and future no 1 (which looks like lottery now)

Milsap has come on as of late really well on offense. I still think he needs some more polishing to be in the same discussion as Boozer. Milsap's defense is a lot better than Boozer but I still see Milsap make silly fouls. Milsap can play with the big boys but I am not so sure he can do it full time, being slightly undersized. He wouldn't be able to fill in at

Any trade with Boozer is most likely will have to involve Granger, pieces may have to be added here and there. Dunleavy, Foster, and a protected first isn't enough for me. I really don't see Dunleavy being an upgrade here at all.

[HicksvsKnicks08]

Milsap can play with the big boys but I am not so sure he can do it full time, being slightly undersized

that was the only thing that worried me

The Dunleavy or Foster plus a #1 would have been for Milsap, although Im skepticla long term

is most of the boards preference to keep Milsap or Boozer or try for both>?

Thanks