OT: If Joe Smith gets a buyout, Cleveland is his choice...

[sully00]

The only reason this article concerns Joe Smith and CLE is that it is a CLE newspaper.

The Wolves had a illegal signed agreement with Joe Smith that would increase his salary the next season in a second contract. Joe fired his agent who was pissed that he would lose out on the commission of the secret deal and snitched out Taylor, McHale and Smith and also got himself decertified.

Joe and KG have been good friends.

[cfan79]

No, the Wolves got penalized for signing Joe Smith to an illegal contract.

Oh yeah, I guess they deserved what they had coming to them then.

[campybatman]

Edit: Yeah, the article doesn't really state that. lol. I am sure marbury has said boston is an option, but that doesn't mean we should start a thread saying, when NY buys out marbury, he's coming to boston.

On the contrary, I never wrote Smith is going to Cleveland. What I did write, if you care to reread before you and others in typical fashion criticize me as oppose to reading what I actually wrote, you'll see that I said Cleveland's his choice and then I'd explained why I wrote that. Where did I write that they would be his only choice? Funny how posters are quick to put words in your mouth. I reread it and I never even wrote anything about Smith exclusively.


I wrote, "The players (big men) with an expiring contract on the Thunder include Chris Wilcox, Donyell Marshall and Joe Smith. My feeling, based on this article, Marshall (trade) and Smith (buyout) seems like the likely candidates on the way out."


Again, I'm asking, where did I write that Smith is definitely, one hundred percent a fact, is going to Cleveland. Here's a hint: I never wrote that. If you elect to misread the thread's title. Then that's your own ignorance and assumptions. I wish certain posters on here could simply not post in my thread if you aren't even going to contribute but bitch and nitpick instead.

To those of you who understand what the thread is discussing, thanks. For those who'd decided to nitpick and misquote or misread me. Well, you know what you can go... Drop dead.

Oklahoma City: The Thunder are going nowhere quickly, and like the Kings are looking to turn some of their more veteran players into future flexibility and assets. Joe Smith, Chris Wilcox and Earl Watson are all rumored to be available, but sources close to the situation say the Thunder are not looking at long term deals, unless its to acquire a legit future all-star type player. Smith could be a very interesting piece for a playoff team, sources close to the situation say Smith was virtually guaranteed he'd be moved by the trade deadline. The Thunder have been thoroughly impressed with Smith's professionalism so far this season. The Raptors, Magic and HEAT could do a lot worse – all three are rumored to have taken a pass at Smith and the Thunder.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=11009

[Celtics_Champs]

Edit: Yeah, the article doesn't really state that. lol. I am sure marbury has said boston is an option, but that doesn't mean we should start a thread saying, when NY buys out marbury, he's coming to boston.

On the contrary, I never wrote Smith is going to Cleveland. What I did write, if you care to reread before you and others in typical fashion criticize me as oppose to reading what I actually wrote, you'll see that I said Cleveland's his choice and then I'd explained why I wrote that. Where did I write that they would be his only choice? Funny how posters are quick to put words in your mouth. I reread it and I never even wrote anything about Smith exclusively.

Again, I'm asking, where did I write that Smith is definitely, one hundred percent a fact, is going to Cleveland. Here's a hint: I never wrote that. If you elect to misread the thread's title. Then that's your own ignorance and assumptions. I wish certain posters on here could simply not post in my thread if you aren't even going to contribute but bitch and nitpick instead.

To those of you who understand what the thread is discussing, thanks. For those who'd decided to nitpick and misquote or misread me. Well, you know what you can go... Drop dead.

Calm down bud. You could have just changed the title. Many on here were mislead by the title.

[Jammer]

Damn. Talk about nitpicking. He has a desire to rejoin Cleveland. That team is his choice as in if he'd a choice, they're a team at the top of his list.

Posters just love contradicting you on this board. Jeez.

I work in a business where being able to differentiate nuances is the
difference between making $300,000/year and $20,000/year.

The reporter states that Smith has an interest in Cleveland,
that they would be an option.

interest and option are not the same as "desire to rejoin."

[chakdaddy]

I work in a business where being able to differentiate nuances is the
difference between making $300,000/year and $20,000/year.

The reporter states that Smith has an interest in Cleveland,
that they would be an option.

interest and option are not the same as "desire to rejoin."

Yup. The article says he would have interest in returning to Cleveland.

The topic clearly implies that Cleveland would be his #1 choice - completely deceptive. I read the title and thought, oh, bad news. But the content of the article was nowhere even close to what the topic implied.

"The choice" or "his choice" means something VERY different from "a choice" or "one of his top choices."

[TA42]

Edit: Yeah, the article doesn't really state that. lol. I am sure marbury has said boston is an option, but that doesn't mean we should start a thread saying, when NY buys out marbury, he's coming to boston.

On the contrary, I never wrote Smith is going to Cleveland. What I did write, if you care to reread before you and others in typical fashion criticize me as oppose to reading what I actually wrote, you'll see that I said Cleveland's his choice and then I'd explained why I wrote that. Where did I write that they would be his only choice? Funny how posters are quick to put words in your mouth. I reread it and I never even wrote anything about Smith exclusively.


I wrote, "The players (big men) with an expiring contract on the Thunder include Chris Wilcox, Donyell Marshall and Joe Smith. My feeling, based on this article, Marshall (trade) and Smith (buyout) seems like the likely candidates on the way out."

Again, I'm asking, where did I write that Smith is definitely, one hundred percent a fact, is going to Cleveland. Here's a hint: I never wrote that. If you elect to misread the thread's title. Then that's your own ignorance and assumptions. I wish certain posters on here could simply not post in my thread if you aren't even going to contribute but bitch and nitpick instead.

To those of you who understand what the thread is discussing, thanks. For those who'd decided to nitpick and misquote or misread me. Well, you know what you can go... Drop dead.

Oklahoma City: The Thunder are going nowhere quickly, and like the Kings are looking to turn some of their more veteran players into future flexibility and assets. Joe Smith, Chris Wilcox and Earl Watson are all rumored to be available, but sources close to the situation say the Thunder are not looking at long term deals, unless its to acquire a legit future all-star type player. Smith could be a very interesting piece for a playoff team, sources close to the situation say Smith was virtually guaranteed he'd be moved by the trade deadline. The Thunder have been thoroughly impressed with Smith's professionalism so far this season. The Raptors, Magic and HEAT could do a lot worse – all three are rumored to have taken a pass at Smith and the Thunder.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=11009

Actually your title does imply that Cleveland is his only choice.

"OT: If Joe Smith gets a buyout, Cleveland is his choice..."

Doesn't leave much wiggle room...but reading your post it's not definitive.

As far as the actual article....as Sully said, it was written by a Cleveland reporter and who know's what the context was.

Reporter...."So Joe, if you're bought out...would you have any interest in coming back to Cleveland?"

Joe Smith...."I would have interest in the Cavs, I'm not sure they would be interested in me. They would be an option."

Do you suppose that if he was asked by a Boston reporter he wouldn't respond the same way and say the Celtics are an option?

With the fact that Joe has been with numerous teams I wouldn't say his allegiance necessarily lays with Cleveland. Hell, any of the three contenders would make a good stop for him to try and get a ring.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Who's the better pick-up in theory, Joe Smith or P.J. Brown?

Rob Swift could become available cheaply (e.g. Scal & O'Bryant)- he's Perk with bad luck (injuries & organizational instability). He'd be another young end of the bench prospect but one with a better upside than BBD or O'Bryant.

I think our veteran pick-up will come out of nowhere, a player currently off radar will get bought out.

[MyInsatiableOne]

The pathetic is, Minny screwed their franchise over for JOE SMITH...not even a guy who is a star, JOE SMITH!!

haha, at least he was a number 1 pick, but so was Olowokandi, Pervis Ellison and Kwame Brown.

EXACTLY!

It's not like that threw the franchise down the toilet for a LeBron-type talent...

[MyInsatiableOne]

Cavs would probably get Joe for the same reason Dice said Cleveland was his #2 choice over Det....because we can offer a bigger contract(and are a contender)

I still don't get why Mcdyess didn't go to Boston or Cleveland. Both teams are in a much better position to win.

Exactly...which showed McDyess didn't really care about winning...which is fine...

We will see if Mutombo or Joe Smith feel the same way as well...

[Roscoe Sheed]

Cavs would probably get Joe for the same reason Dice said Cleveland was his #2 choice over Det....because we can offer a bigger contract(and are a contender)

I still don't get why Mcdyess didn't go to Boston or Cleveland. Both teams are in a much better position to win.

Exactly...which showed McDyess didn't really care about winning...which is fine...

We will see if Mutombo or Joe Smith feel the same way as well...

First, the Pistons can't be completely counted out just yet.

Second, I don't think he wanted to go to the Cavs because they wouldn't have a substantial role for him there (too many bigs- Z, Ben Wallace, Varejao, etc.)

Third, Dice didn't want to play for the Cs because he doesn't like KG very much

[Andrew McCeltic]

Exactly...which showed McDyess didn't really care about winning...which is fine...

Say you have two job offers. One is with a successful company, the other with a mediocre company. For various reasons, the mediocre company can pay you 3 times as much money for the same job you'd be doing at the successful company. Which job would you take?

[Roscoe Sheed]

Exactly...which showed McDyess didn't really care about winning...which is fine...

Say you have two job offers. One is with a successful company, the other with a mediocre company. For various reasons, the mediocre company can pay you 3 times as much money for the same job you'd be doing at the successful company. Which job would you take?

Also, what you guys can't dismiss is that Dice knows he will have a significant role in the Pistons rotation. He doesn't want to just be a ride along on a championship team. He wants to play a major part. He doesn't want to be Mitch Richmond or Glen Robinson