Francis Traded To Memphis!

[ShaY]

We traded Francis and the 2009 2nd round pick we acquired from the Grizzlies in the draft+cash considerations for a conditional 2011 2nd round pick.

I am kinda sad seeing Steve go , even though I didn't think it will happen I always had that little hope in me that maybe he will come back and contribute , wish him the best of luck in Memphis if he even plays there.

I guess now we are going after Deke.

http://my.nba.com/forum.jspa?forumID=5700013641&start=0

[abcdef]

I'm surprised we didn't have to give up a first round pick, like we did to dump Glen Rice or the Suns did to dump Kurt Thomas. Francis's trade value was negative all along, but it wasn't as bad as it could have been.

I am very glad that Francis is no longer sitting there being negatively productive deadweight salary on the roster. We can now go and sign Deke. I guess Memphis figures they will get their high second round pick back, which is almost as good as a low first round pick I suppose, to take on our trash.

[TMACFORMVP]

Just saw it, interesting to say the least. I'm not sure on the deal, I particularly don't care for Francis and am on the bandwagon that he's done, but we basically give him, who's an expiring contract anyway and a potentially high 2nd round pick for nothing. If it all results in re-signing Deke, then I think the reason we made the deal is clear. But didn't Mutombo recently say he was signing with either SA or Boston?

Get er' done Morey!

[abcdef]

Just saw it, interesting to say the least. I'm not sure on the deal, I particularly don't care for Francis and am on the bandwagon that he's done, but we basically give him, who's an expiring contract anyway and a potentially high 2nd round pick for nothing. If it all results in re-signing Deke, then I think the reason we made the deal is clear. But didn't Mutombo recently say he was signing with either SA or Boston?

Get er' done Morey!

We had to give up stuff to dump Francis because we were asking Memphis to take on Francis's salary. Francis's trade value is negative; we are the ones begging Memphis to take him off our books so we had to give up stuff to make the trade. I think we even had to throw in cash, but remember our 2004 trade of Glen Rice where we gave up our first round pick and the Suns' trade of Kurt Thomas where they gave up 2 firsts. Compared to that we paid a small price for dumping salary.

I think Mutombo said he'd sign with SA or Boston because we didn't offer him a contract due to the luxury tax situation, which is now resolved. I presume we will offer him a contract shortly, and I think he will accept since he has said all along that his first choice is in Houston.

[ShaY]

Just saw it, interesting to say the least. I'm not sure on the deal, I particularly don't care for Francis and am on the bandwagon that he's done, but we basically give him, who's an expiring contract anyway and a potentially high 2nd round pick for nothing. If it all results in re-signing Deke, then I think the reason we made the deal is clear. But didn't Mutombo recently say he was signing with either SA or Boston?

Get er' done Morey!

Thats basically what it is , I am sure we are going after Deke now and I think we will sign him.
If we do our team is complete , just need to be healthy and Mcgrady to be the Mcgrady of the last 2 years and we are good to go.

[TMU]

Good move, Francis was never gonna get any minutes. Memphis gobbles up the rest of Francis' contract and hopefully we'll be able to resign Mutombo.

[TMACFORMVP]

Yeah, hopefully he signs soon then.

[A.J.]

I just got in and seen it. Crap, I wanted Francis to retire as a Rocket. Im going to miss you Steve.

[KiDdFrESh]

Well it sucks to see him go. Stevie is always going to be a favorite of mine. It was a shame how his career just instantly fell off after the trade to Orlando. I knew he wouldnt be half the player he was when we got him back but I would have liked to see him contribute more.

Its time to re-sign Deke before he goes elsewhere. I think this trade should free up enough money in order to do so.

Hopefully Steve comes back after a month !! hahaha

[MaxRider]

you know it's coming when Morey is not looking to trade Head
Mutombo said he's going to sign with someone after Christmas
we need to clear cap to sign him (the only option left is Francis)
Head is not good but he still capable of shooting the 3 (we won 2 games because of him)
now i need to change my sig

[abcdef]

If there is anything to be sad about, it is the fact that we have to give up a high second round pick to correct the mistake that was the Steve Francis signing.

I am very glad Francis is gone. He is not a viable NBA player, and people pretended that he is. Too bad we had to give up something of worth to get rid of him; at least it wasn't a first round pick. This underscores how much a mistake the Francis signing was. Simply a bad move from the start. It was a misstep for Morey as Rockets GM, the only one I can think of.

[Baller 24]

Just saw it, interesting to say the least. I'm not sure on the deal, I particularly don't care for Francis and am on the bandwagon that he's done, but we basically give him, who's an expiring contract anyway and a potentially high 2nd round pick for nothing. If it all results in re-signing Deke, then I think the reason we made the deal is clear. But didn't Mutombo recently say he was signing with either SA or Boston?

Get er' done Morey!

Thats basically what it is , I am sure we are going after Deke now and I think we will sign him.
If we do our team is complete , just need to be healthy and Mcgrady to be the Mcgrady of the last 2 years and we are good to go.

That's not going to happen, the best you can wish for a is a 97-98 Scottie Pippen, and that's about it. He isn't going to play like he did 2 years ago, he has no heart, his body language is trash. I've been supporting and backing him up for too long, its clearly time for me to pull the string. We aren't paying him over 20+ million to go out there and throw down 16/4/4, or even average 3.5 ppg against Kobe/LeBron. Its seriously trash, that salary should be going to someone that is an elite player in this league, T-Mac is a 3rd tier shooting guard right now, and I still don't know how you can back him up and defend his sorry ass when he himself thought he was a doctor and didn't take rehab seriously. Its just trash, you CLEARLY aren't going to get that 2007 T-Mac back, sig it, book it, quote it, profile it, do what ever you want. For him to get to that level he needs to pick it up a whole level higher. And like I said, the best your going to get is a 97-98 Scottie Pippen with crappy defense.

[MaxRider]

If there is anything to be sad about, it is the fact that we have to give up a high second round pick to correct the mistake that was the Steve Francis signing.

I am very glad Francis is gone. He is not a viable NBA player, and people pretended that he is. Too bad we had to give up something of worth to get rid of him; at least it wasn't a first round pick. This underscores how much a mistake the Francis signing was. Simply a bad move from the start. It was a misstep for Morey as Rockets GM, the only one I can think of.

come on Morey done plenty of good trades
now you only remember the bad one he done

[abcdef]

If there is anything to be sad about, it is the fact that we have to give up a high second round pick to correct the mistake that was the Steve Francis signing.

I am very glad Francis is gone. He is not a viable NBA player, and people pretended that he is. Too bad we had to give up something of worth to get rid of him; at least it wasn't a first round pick. This underscores how much a mistake the Francis signing was. Simply a bad move from the start. It was a misstep for Morey as Rockets GM, the only one I can think of.

come on Morey done plenty of good trades
now you only remember the bad one he done

I know he has done plenty of good as GM. But signing Francis was not one of them, and I'm pointing that out. I'm not saying he sucks; any GM has a trade or transaction he'd like to have back. I could surely dig into Red Auerbach's illustrious history as Celtics GM and find a trade or a signing that was bad.

[MaxRider]

keep adding the bad things to Morey's resume

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... _new_year/

Mutombo is going to Boston
we are screw now without a backup center
someone go call Dawson to call Hakeem

[Jaykoolzboy]

I think Deke's comments was prior to this trade, we are in the race for him right now.

[ShaY]

Just saw it, interesting to say the least. I'm not sure on the deal, I particularly don't care for Francis and am on the bandwagon that he's done, but we basically give him, who's an expiring contract anyway and a potentially high 2nd round pick for nothing. If it all results in re-signing Deke, then I think the reason we made the deal is clear. But didn't Mutombo recently say he was signing with either SA or Boston?

Get er' done Morey!

Thats basically what it is , I am sure we are going after Deke now and I think we will sign him.
If we do our team is complete , just need to be healthy and Mcgrady to be the Mcgrady of the last 2 years and we are good to go.

That's not going to happen, the best you can wish for a is a 97-98 Scottie Pippen, and that's about it. He isn't going to play like he did 2 years ago, he has no heart, his body language is trash. I've been supporting and backing him up for too long, its clearly time for me to pull the string. We aren't paying him over 20+ million to go out there and throw down 16/4/4, or even average 3.5 ppg against Kobe/LeBron. Its seriously trash, that salary should be going to someone that is an elite player in this league, T-Mac is a 3rd tier shooting guard right now, and I still don't know how you can back him up and defend his sorry ass when he himself thought he was a doctor and didn't take rehab seriously. Its just trash, you CLEARLY aren't going to get that 2007 T-Mac back, sig it, book it, quote it, profile it, do what ever you want. For him to get to that level he needs to pick it up a whole level higher. And like I said, the best your going to get is a 97-98 Scottie Pippen with crappy defense.

I think he can and he will come back to the lever he has been in last year's playoffs.
Lets wait and see who will be right and who will be wrong.

[T-Wack]

It's really too bad Rick never gave him a shot. Like a couple of others, I was rooting for the guy. Bad health, and differences with the coach really hurt him. Now he's all but officially done. I don't see him reviving his career in Memphis.

[Baller 24]

I think he can and he will come back to the lever he has been in last year's playoffs.
Lets wait and see who will be right and who will be wrong.

Hey I hope he does come back to that form, I'd pray for that actually. But I still can't understand how you can defend his poor and mediocre work ethic, everyone in the entire world knows this guy has the worst conditioning workout out of a lot of good talented players. That's whats getting to me, he wouldn't be in this mess if he seriously took his rehab on a serious matter and really worked hard, but no he didn't---simply not even close, and the fact that he acted like he was a Doctor just throws my mind in the gutter. He is a talented player filled with a lot of skill, but McGrady since 04-05 has developed a Scottie Pippen role, he is no longer a legitimate scoring threat, but more or so a solid glue guy that can fill up every single stat line (a solid one). 08 playoffs McGrady, you really want that? If anything I'd want the last 2 games. And I'm waiting, but this season is a new low for him, there is no way hes going to bounce back to his old form without doing a couple of high scoring games. Listen, you can back him up, wish that he turns out great and everything, I do to. But its just that you're the only one defending him when he himself didn't take his rehab seriously, there are no excuses for "oh, let him be 100%, oh hes long 60%". No excuses at all, he had 5 months, and his poor work ethic got in the way.

[tisbee]

Overlooked is the nice $2.7mil Trade Exception the Rockets also picked up that is good for 1 yr.