Really proud of this team in the Scott Brooks era

ljp24 · Post #1 » by **ljp24** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:26 am

We've gone from doormats to competitive. We have taken great teams to the wire and overall, chemistry is great. Sure our roster is horribly put together, but hell, we were 3-26 bad early in the season, not now. I can honestly see us winning 12 more games and hit the 15-win mark.

ljp24 · Post #2 » by **ljp24** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:31 am

aaannnddd AI beats us at the buzzer. Surprisingly, Joe Smith was one of our only positives and the usual Chris Wilcox showed up.

theokie · Post #3 » by **theokie** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:19 pm

Its kinda getting redundant by saying this, but you can't really get mad at a team that started off so badly, if they lose by 2 on the road to a good team. They show improvement every week it seems like.

Post #4 » by **wizkid27** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:50 pm

Yeah, like we've been saying... there's a lot to look forward to now. And I really believe that on any given night, this team has the ability to pull off an upset. Not necessarily likely, but the ability to do it makes it interesting for the fans...

Rome · Post #5 » by **Rome** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:44 pm

It was a short time fix what we need is Avery Johnson.That would be the best pickup RIGHT NOW,just look at his reume and the wonders he has done with developing Devin Harris.I mean the man got fired for noticing talent and winning.When Harris came out of Wisconsin he was veiwed as a scoring guard and AJ showed him how to play the point now imagin what he could do with Westbrook.Look Dallas were bottom dwellers before he cam to the team and were playoff contenders within a couple of years.Just imagin what he could do with a young team with massive cap space and draft picks.This is what we need and now

theokie · Post #6 » by **theokie** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:11 am

Dallas had won 50+ games for about 5 years when Avery took over... i wouldn't consider that a bottom dweller would you?

wiff · Post #7 » by **wiff** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:02 am

ljp24 wrote:We've gone from doormats to competitive. We have taken great teams to the wire and overall, chemistry is great. Sure our roster is horribly put together, but hell, we were 3-26 bad early in the season, not now. I can honestly see us winning 12 more games and hit the 15-win mark.

Doormats to competitive huh? So if the Blunder lose every game by one point for an entire season are they competitive or are they still doormats? If a tree falls in the woods......

I thought in order to be competitive you kind of had to win about 50 percent of your games?

Post #8 » by **wizkid27** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:42 am

I think to be a winning team you have to win over 50%... but to be competitive, it's fairly relative. I would generally say that a competitive team makes other teams COMPETE. I believe that the Thunder have consistently done that over the last few weeks with a couple of rare exceptions.

Rome · Post #9 » by **Rome** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:17 pm

We just need somone that will guide and teach these kids and last nights game showed.Maybe they've given up on Brooks also.

wiff · Post #10 » by **wiff** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:02 pm

wizkid27 wrote:I think to be a winning team you have to win over 50%... but to be competitive, it's fairly relative. I would generally say that a competitive team makes other teams COMPETE. I believe that the Thunder have consistently done that over the last few weeks with a couple of rare exceptions.

Thanks for the definition Wizkid.

I hope you buy your sugar in bulk.

Howler21 · Post #11 » by **Howler21** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:37 pm

[quote="Rome"]It was a short time fix what we need is Avery Johnson.That would be the best pickup RIGHT NOW,just look at his reume and the wonders he has done with developing Devin Harris.I mean the man got fired for noticing talent and winning.When Harris came out of Wisconsin he was veiwed as a scoring guard and AJ showed him how to play the point /quote]

:rofl:

I want you to go post that on the Dallas board. Avery did everything but put a muzzle on Devin.

immuhguy · Post #12 » by **immuhguy** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:33 pm

this thread is such a joke.

as is all this 'competitive' talk lmao.

come on, this team is terrible...you competed real well with those wizards last night. give me a break...

theokie · Post #13 » by **theokie** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:52 pm

Anyone who watched this team get blown the **** out in every game until Carlisimo was fired, would see that they are now more competitive than they were before. Were having trouble closing out games in the final minutes, which means we are in every game late in the 4th quarter, which means they are more competitive.

Sorry that you guyy's teams suck so bad, and have no future or young talent you have to come here and bash fans from an even worse team to make ur self feel better.

Post #14 » by **wizkid27** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:43 pm

theokie, please, no need for insulting other teams... we've got plenty to worry about on our own.

Aside from that though, I've gotta agree with you... watching a team play a tight game the whole way and fall apart at the end is much more competitive than watching a team get blown out in the first quarter and chase moral victories the rest of the way.

On top of this, it's great to see that the team that is more competitive is the one with the lineups that get our young guys more time in their long-term positions. Often times, teams have to sacrifice winning to play their young guys... Not that we aren't almost sacrificing winning altogether, but even when we were playing vets and young guys out of position, we were doing worse.

Post #15 » by **wizkid27** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:45 pm

wiff wrote:
Thanks for the definition Wizkid.

I hope you buy your sugar in bulk.

Yeah, I'm drinking the kool-aide... kind of have to at this point! Not much else to do but enjoy the bit there is to enjoy and hope for the future

wiff · Post #16 » by **wiff** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:53 pm

wizkid27 wrote:Yeah, I'm drinking the kool-aide... kind of have to at this point! Not much else to do but enjoy the bit there is to enjoy and hope for the future

You can enjoy Jeff Green Wiz, I have been really impressed with how well Jeff Green has been playing since PJ was canned.

Against the Suns
22pts 11rebs 2dimes 3thefts and a block is outstanding. I didn't watch the game but I'm thinking those probably came against Amare for the most part.

Last year Jeff was really inconsistent, you could see flashes, but he never really found a solid groove.

He is shooting .393 oh his 3 pointers. That is sensational considering last year every time he was outside of 12 feet you would just expect a brick. I kept thinking to myself how is it a guy was drafted top 5 and can't shoot?

Plus last year there was all the why didn't you draft Yi talk. Heck people were even talking about Al Thorton and Thaddeus Young being better players.

Individually if Jeff keep's up this pace at the end of the season he may have the second best Sophomore season after Durant. And no I didn't exclude Al Horford.

I'd take 18pts and 8rebs over 12pts and 9rebs any day of the weak.

I saw in the trades and transactions forum where a Sacramento fan was thinking about trading Kevin Martin for Green. Martin is a great talent and to Sacramento fan is the franchise player, but at this point I don't know if I would trade Green for Martin unless OKC had the draft locked up so they could take Griffin.

But again if Green keeps up this pace do you take Griffin who is an absolute stud in college but is his game going to translate to the NBA? And even if it does translate is he going to be as good as Green?

Actually I simply wouldn't trade Green at this point until the lottery is worked out.

theokie · Post #17 » by **theokie** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:37 am

They would definitely take Griffin if he is available. And if that happens I don't see Green getting traded. I really feel like they would start Durant/Green/Griffin at the 3 4 and 5 spots, rather than trade Green. Not saying this is a good idea, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Then again, it would be great to get a true C or true SG of equal age and talent

Rome · Post #18 » by **Rome** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:09 pm

I want you to go post that on the Dallas board. Avery did everything but put a muzzle on Devin.[/quote]
AJ didn't want to trade Harris and he surely didn't want J Kidd.

Post #19 » by **wizkid27** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 5:27 pm

theokie wrote:They would definitely take Griffin if he is available. And if that happens I don't see Green getting traded. I really feel like they would start Durant/Green/Griffin at the 3 4 and 5 spots, rather than trade Green. Not saying this is a good idea, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Then again, it would be great to get a true C or true SG of equal age and talent

I agree that right now, we can't trade Green. He's been looking pretty solid, and I don't really think it's because he's getting a lot of minutes on a poor team. If Durant and Green can both expand their perimeter games (especially ball-handling), I like Green/Durant/Griffin at the 2/3/4 as opposed to 3/4/5. If Jeff continues to develop well, it does give us flexibility. But eventhough Griffin is a beast inside, he's not a guy that is going to control the NBA paint on D. I think we've gotta have a center next to them...

sonic-ben · Post #20 » by **sonic-ben** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 11:28 pm

wizkid27 wrote:
theokie wrote:They would definitely take Griffin if he is available. And if that happens I don't see Green getting traded. I really feel like they would start Durant/Green/Griffin at the 3 4 and 5 spots, rather than trade Green. Not saying this is a good idea, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Then again, it would be great to get a true C or true SG of equal age and talent

I agree that right now, we can't trade Green. He's been looking pretty solid, and I don't really think it's because he's getting a lot of minutes on a poor team. If Durant and Green can both expand their perimeter games (especially ball-handling), I like Green/Durant/Griffin at the 2/3/4 as opposed to 3/4/5. If Jeff continues to develop well, it does give us flexibility. But eventhough Griffin is a beast inside, he's not a guy that is going to control the NBA paint on D. I think we've gotta have a center next to them...

Thabeet could be traded for..... at about #14 maybe