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Is Pau Gasol trade still a steal

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Re: Is Pau Gasol trade still a steal 

Post#41 » by The Prodigy » Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:05 pm

This trade was still a steal for the Lakers, even though it may not be the total highway robbery that everyone originally thought it was. Those comparing Marc to Pau have gone mad. Marc will never be as good as Pau. He's much slower and much less athletic. As a 21 year-old rookie, Pau averaged 18 points 9 rebounds and 2 blocks. As a 23 year-old rookie, Marc is averaging 11-7-1. Crittenton is a decent prospect like hundreds in this league and 2 picks in the late 20's are a crapshoot. I'd make this deal 10 out of 10 times.
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Re: Is Pau Gasol trade still a steal 

Post#42 » by kevin_405 » Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:25 pm

Agree with u on Crittenton and Marc being just decent prospects nothing exemplary.. but Crittenton could have helped us now.. with Farmar injury but they say hindsight is 20/20..

Guys like Joey Crawford and Kobe Carl are averaging 30 in the DLeague and have no place in the NBA..

It sure says something about the level of talent in the league..

The Prodigy wrote:This trade was still a steal for the Lakers, even though it may not be the total highway robbery that everyone originally thought it was. Those comparing Marc to Pau have gone mad. Marc will never be as good as Pau. He's much slower and much less athletic. As a 21 year-old rookie, Pau averaged 18 points 9 rebounds and 2 blocks. As a 23 year-old rookie, Marc is averaging 11-7-1. Crittenton is a decent prospect like hundreds in this league and 2 picks in the late 20's are a crapshoot. I'd make this deal 10 out of 10 times.
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Re: Is Pau Gasol trade still a steal 

Post#43 » by The Prodigy » Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:46 pm

kevin_405 wrote:Agree with u on Crittenton and Marc being just decent prospects nothing exemplary.. but Crittenton could have helped us now.. with Farmar injury but they say hindsight is 20/20..

Guys like Joey Crawford and Kobe Carl are averaging 30 in the DLeague and have no place in the NBA..

It sure says something about the level of talent in the league..

The Prodigy wrote:This trade was still a steal for the Lakers, even though it may not be the total highway robbery that everyone originally thought it was. Those comparing Marc to Pau have gone mad. Marc will never be as good as Pau. He's much slower and much less athletic. As a 21 year-old rookie, Pau averaged 18 points 9 rebounds and 2 blocks. As a 23 year-old rookie, Marc is averaging 11-7-1. Crittenton is a decent prospect like hundreds in this league and 2 picks in the late 20's are a crapshoot. I'd make this deal 10 out of 10 times.



The fact that Farmar got hurt should have no bearing on how we evaluate the Pau trade. Where would we be without Pau? I wouldn't even want to think about it. The man is a perfect fit on this team. We gave some talent in the trade but we clearly came out on the winning end.
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Re: Is Pau Gasol trade still a steal 

Post#44 » by Dr Aki » Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:05 pm

semi-sentient wrote:OK, we've already established that he wasn't a good offensive player. You keep repeating what I acknowledged long ago.

What I don't understand is why you keep twisting the situation. Kobe was not raging at the FO for trading Caron. Where are you getting this from?

We flat out sucked with Caron because we lacked size and defense. As soon as Odom went down with injury it was the Kobe and Caron show, and the result was a trip to the lottery (which is fine seeing as how that's how we got Bynum). Believe it or not, we were a better team by swapping Caron with Kwame, although we could have gotten a better big in return (although I'm not certain who was really available at that time).


did you insinuate we actually got better with kwame than caron??

still, a gamble was still a gamble, caron turned into an allstar and kwame went from big still with potential to big with no potential

the lakers went down the sh*thole that season because of tommy taking a midseason leave

and kobe not raging at the FO?? kobe was grooming caron to be the Ocho version 2.

how does kobe not get mad because they not only traded away the second best player on the team, but also one of his closer friends on the team??

for who? kwame??

semi-sentient wrote:Passes? Kwame was actually a good passer. You don't need to make things up to support your argument.


Bricking passes, not passing, kwame couldnt catch a train at a tokyo station if all the train handlers pushed him into one
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Re: Is Pau Gasol trade still a steal 

Post#45 » by rand0m » Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:25 am

This trade is still a steal by all means.

Ack, Kwame a good passer? Kwame a good defender? It must be all the winning that has made you forgotten the dark era. Kwame was just horrible in nearly every aspect. Sure he was big and could bang inside, but that doesn't mean it was enough to get us anywhere. Not to mention he didn't have the IQ to use his size to full potential. He didn't make us elite defenders by any means.

Marc Gasol is a great backup center and I personally don't think he'll get much better. Pau is an ALLSTAR. It's a stretch to say he's going to even reach Pau's level let alone surpass him.

Javaris has potential, but like someone said, he couldn't even crack a weak PG rotation. We are about winning now wikth kobe. Regardless, I'd still rather have farmar this season. Javaris would've helped now that he's out but that's all in hindsight. It has no affect on the trade last season.

It's still early and LAL is 25-5, leading the West considerably and just beat the C's. And we still have a ton of room for improvement. Just compare where we were a year ago to where we are now. Enough said...

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