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Post#1 » by Mags FTW » Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:30 pm

Interesting comments by Woodson and Harris in the Press-Gazette.
“In my opinion, we have to get some veteran guys on the team, some guys that have weathered some storms in their careers and know what it’s all about,” Packers cornerback Charles Woodson said. “I don’t know what will be done, but I know there will be some things done.

“I think we need a couple of more (veterans on defense). A couple more and I think we’ll be OK.”

Fellow starting cornerback Al Harris agreed.

“We are a young team, but that’s no excuse,” Harris said. “There’s going to be some guys out there that may (be able to) help us.”


And not exactly a vote of confidence for Sanders.
Though the Packers’ starting cornerbacks were vocal about their desire to see Thompson add veteran players to the roster, neither was willing to say much about Sanders, whose job security appears shaky after a season in which the defense failed to hold multiple fourth-quarter leads.

Asked whether he would bring Sanders back, Woodson said: “I won’t answer that.”

Harris, when asked the same question, said: “However it works out, it works out.”

Several other defensive players, including linebacker A.J. Hawk and Pickett, defended Sanders, saying the problems on defense were more about execution and injuries to key players like Nick Barnett, Atari Bigby and Cullen Jenkins than about the scheme.

“The scheme’s been working for us the last couple of years,” Pickett said. “It wasn’t the scheme.”

Sanders refused to address his future on Sunday, saying his sole focus was on beating the Lions. His defense gave up 316 yards and three touchdowns but came up with two turnovers.
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Post#2 » by wichmae » Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:16 pm

2009 NFL Free Agents

QB
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Charlie Batch UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
QB Brock Berlin RFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
QB Kyle Boller UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
QB Brooks Bollinger UFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
QB Todd Bouman UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
QB David Carr UFA New York Giants Free Agent
QB Matt Cassel UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
QB Kerry Collins UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
QB Bruce Eugene RFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
QB Ryan Fitzpatrick UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
QB Charlie Frye UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
QB Jeff Garcia UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
QB David Garrard UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
QB Rex Grossman UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
QB Joey Harrington UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
QB Drew Henson RFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
QB Byron Leftwich UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
QB J.P. Losman UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
QB Jamie Martin UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
QB Luke McCown UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
QB J.T. O'Sullivan UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
QB Dan Orlovsky UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
QB Kyle Orton Re-signed Chicago Bears Chicago Bears
QB Patrick Ramsey UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
QB Chris Simms UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
QB Brian St. Pierre UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
QB Marques Tuiasosopo UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
QB Kurt Warner UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
QB Anthony Wright UFA New York Giants Free Agent

RB
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
RB Shaun Alexander UFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
RB J.J. Arrington UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
RB Cedric Benson UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
RB Correll Buckhalter UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
RB Jesse Chatman UFA New York Jets Free Agent
RB P.J. Daniels RFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
RB DeDe Dorsey RFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
RB Samkon Gado UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
RB Andre Hall ERFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
RB Fred Jackson RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
RB Steven Jackson UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
RB Brandon Jacobs UFA New York Giants Free Agent
RB Rudi Johnson UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
RB Kevin Jones UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
RB LaMont Jordan UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
RB Travis Minor UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
RB Maurice Morris UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
RB Chris Perry RFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
RB Michael Pittman UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
RB Dominic Rhodes UFA Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
RB Jason Snelling UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
RB Darren Sproles UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
RB Aaron Stecker UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
RB Derrick Ward UFA New York Giants Free Agent
RB Danny Ware RFA New York Giants Free Agent
RB Ricky Williams UFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
RB Quincy Wilson UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
RB Jason Wright UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
FB B.J. Askew UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
FB Tim Castille ERFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
FB Daniel Coats ERFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
FB Carey Davis RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
FB Heath Evans UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
FB Zak Keasey RFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
FB Lorenzo Neal UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
FB Moran Norris UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
FB Richard Owens UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
FB Ryan Powdrell ERFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
FB Tony Richardson UFA New York Jets Free Agent
FB Terrelle Smith UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
FB Byron Storer RFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
FB Naufahu Tahi RFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
FB Leonard Weaver UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent

WR
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
WR Miles Austin RFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
WR Hank Baskett RFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
WR Shaun Bodiford RFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
WR Antonio Bryant UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
WR Greg Camarillo RFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
WR Drew Carter UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
WR Michael Clayton UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
WR Marques Colston RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
WR Terrance Copper UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
WR Bobby Engram UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
WR Robert Ferguson UFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
WR Malcom Floyd RFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
WR Jabar Gaffney UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
WR Rod Gardner UFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
WR Dante' Hall UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
WR Devery Henderson UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
WR Sam Hurd RFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
WR Darrell Jackson UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
WR Justin Jenkins RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
WR Michael Jenkins Re-signed Atlanta Falcons Atlanta Falcons
WR Bryant Johnson UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
WR Brandon Jones UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
WR Brandon Lloyd UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
WR Dane Looker UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
WR Justin McCareins UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
WR Shaun McDonald UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
WR Johnnie Morant UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
WR Ben Obomanu RFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
WR Terrell Owens Re-signed Dallas Cowboys Dallas Cowboys
WR Roscoe Parrish UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
WR Maurice Price RFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
WR Koren Robinson UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
WR Dominique Thompson UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
WR Amani Toomer UFA New York Giants Free Agent
WR Jeff Webb RFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
WR Demetrius Williams RFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
WR Mike Williams UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
WR Reggie Williams UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
WR Cedrick Wilson UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
WR Wallace Wright RFA New York Jets Free Agent

TE
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
TE Dominique Byrd RFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
TE Mark Campbell UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
TE Desmond Clark UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
TE Jon Dekker RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
TE Darnell Dinkins UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
TE Kevin Everett UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
TE Aaron Halterman UFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
TE Will Heller UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
TE Jeff King RFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
TE Jim Kleinsasser UFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
TE Joe Kowalewski RFA New York Jets Free Agent
TE Itula Mili UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
TE Ben Patrick ERFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
TE Leonard Pope RFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
TE Stephen Spach UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
TE Tony Stewart UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
TE Quinn Sypniewski RFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
TE Daniel Wilcox UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent

PK
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
PK Rob Bironas UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
PK John Carney UFA New York Giants Free Agent
PK Jay Feely UFA New York Jets Free Agent
PK Robbie Gould UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
PK Shayne Graham UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
PK Martin Gramatica UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
PK Jason Hanson UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
PK Tyler Jones UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
PK John Kasay UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
PK Mike Nugent UFA New York Jets Free Agent
PK Matt Stover UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
PK Shaun Suisham UFA Washington Redskins Free Agent

P
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
P Chris Hanson UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
P Craig Hentrich UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
P Sam Koch RFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
P Shane Lechler UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent

OL
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
OG Cooper Carlisle UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
OG Kirk Chambers UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
OG Harvey Dahl UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OG Mike Goff UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
OG Chris Gray UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
OG Eric Heitmann UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
OG Russ Hochstein UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
OG Richie Incognito UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
OG Pete Kendall UFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
OG Seth McKinney UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
OG Blaine Saipaia UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
OG Mark Setterstrom RFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
OG Fred Weary UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OG Tony Wragge RFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
OT Mike Brisiel ERFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Vernon Carey UFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
OT Richard Collier RFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
OT Marc Colombo UFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
OT Willie Colon RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
OT Anthony Davis UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
OT Dan Federkeil RFA Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
OT George Foster UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
OT Adrian Jones UFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
OT Frank Omiyale UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
OT Mike Otto RFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
OT Jon Runyan UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
OT Marvel Smith UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
OT John St. Clair UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
OT Jon Stinchcomb UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OT Mark Tauscher UFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
OT Tra Thomas UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
OT Chris L. White UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Ray Willis UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
C David Binn UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
C Matt Birk UFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
C Nick Cole RFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
C Melvin Fowler UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
C Brad Meester UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
C Tom Nalen UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
C Lonie Paxton UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
C Bryan Pittman UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
C Grey Ruegamer UFA New York Giants Free Agent
C Jeff Saturday UFA Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
C Lyle Sendlein ERFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
C Ben Wilkerson UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
C Joe Zelenka UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
OL Rashad Butler RFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OL Damane Duckett UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
OL Jahri Evans RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OL Renardo Foster UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OL Chris Morris RFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
OL Tony Palmer RFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
OL Duke Preston UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
OL Zach Strief RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent

DL
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
DL Victor Adeyanju RFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
DL Jonathan Babineaux UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
DL Bertrand Berry UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
DL Ray Blagman ERFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
DL Copeland Bryan RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
DL Kevin Carter UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
DL Shaun Cody UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
DL Dwan Edwards UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
DL Demetric Evans UFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
DL Fred Evans RFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
DL Ronald Fields UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
DL La'Roi Glover UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
DL Kedric Golston RFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
DL Howard Green UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
DL Otis Grigsby RFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
DL Tommie Harris UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
DL Albert Haynesworth UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
DL Jason Hunter RFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
DL Tank Johnson UFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
DL Antwan Lake UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
DL Louis Leonard ERFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
DL Tony McDaniel RFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
DL Rob Meier UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
DL Jayme Mitchell RFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
DL Anthony Montgomery RFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
DL Mike Montgomery UFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
DL Eric M. Moore UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
DL C.J. Mosley UFA New York Jets Free Agent
DL Ryan Neill ERFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
DL Julius Peppers UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
DL Kenny Peterson UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
DL Ryan Sims UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
DL Paul Spicer UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
DL Michael Strahan UFA New York Giants Free Agent
DL John Thornton UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
DL Marcus Tubbs UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
DL Kenechi Udeze UFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
DL Jimmy Verdon RFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
DL Kevin Vickerson UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
DL Gabe Watson RFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
DL Jeff Zgonina UFA Houston Texans Free Agent

LB
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
LB Colin Allred RFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
LB James Anderson RFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
LB Eric Barton UFA New York Jets Free Agent
LB Monty Beisel UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
LB Khary Campbell UFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
LB Anthony Cannon RFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
LB Ryan Claridge UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
LB Dan Cody UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
LB Jorge Cordova UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
LB Channing Crowder UFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
LB Angelo Crowell UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
LB Andra Davis UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
LB John DiGiorgio RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
LB Keith Ellison RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
LB Troy Evans UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
LB James Farrior UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
LB Tyjuan Hagler UFA Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
LB Kevin Harrison RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
LB Michael Hawkes UFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
LB LeRoy Hill UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
LB Brian Iwuh RFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
LB Larry Izzo UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
LB Clint Kriewaldt UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
LB Jason Kyle UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
LB Kenard Lang UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
LB Paris Lenon UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
LB Ray Lewis UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
LB Darrell McClover UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
LB Willie McGinest UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
LB Marvin Mitchell RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
LB Quentin Moses ERFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
LB Marques Murrell RFA New York Jets Free Agent
LB Sam Olajubutu RFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
LB Mike Peterson UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
LB Brady Poppinga UFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
LB Nick Roach ERFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
LB Bart Scott UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
LB Cody Spencer UFA New York Jets Free Agent
LB Pat Thomas UFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
LB Zach Thomas UFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
LB Pago Togafau RFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
LB Jyles Tucker RFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
LB Jonathan Vilma UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
LB Mark Washington ERFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
LB Nate Webster UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
LB Sam Williams UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent

DB
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
CB Nnamdi Asomugha UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
CB Ron Bartell UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
CB Tyron Brackenridge RFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
CB Phillip Buchanon UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
CB Jarrett Bush RFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
CB Travis Daniels UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
CB Kevin Dockery RFA New York Giants Free Agent
CB Demarcus Faggins UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
CB Cortland Finnegan RFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
CB Chris Gamble UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
CB Andre' Goodman UFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
CB Charles Gordon RFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
CB Jabari Greer UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
CB Brent Grimes UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
CB Antoine Harris ERFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
CB Kelvin Hayden UFA Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
CB Kevin Hobbs RFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
CB Daven Holly UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
CB Corey Ivy UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
CB Eric King UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
CB Derrick Martin RFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
CB Bryant McFadden UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
CB R.W. McQuarters UFA New York Giants Free Agent
CB Justin Miller UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
CB Dimitri Patterson RFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
CB Bruce Perry UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
CB Lamont Reid UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
CB Dunta Robinson UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
CB Ramzee Robinson ERFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
CB Allen Rossum UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
CB Duane Starks UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
CB Scott Starks UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
CB Brandon Williams UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
CB Tramon Williams ERFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
SS Atari Bigby RFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
SS Mike Brown UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
SS Sean Considine UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
SS Reed Doughty RFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
SS Abram Elam UFA New York Jets Free Agent
SS Josh Gattis ERFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
SS Rodney Harrison UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
SS Kyries Hebert UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
SS Sean Jones UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
SS Dawan Landry RFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
SS Jon McGraw UFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
SS Lawyer Milloy UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
SS Jermaine Phillips UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
SS Chris Reis RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
SS Kerry Rhodes UFA New York Jets Free Agent
SS James Sanders UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
SS Darren Sharper UFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
FS Mike Adams UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
FS Will Allen UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
FS Rashad Baker UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
FS Patrick Body UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
FS Brian Dawkins UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
FS Renaldo Hill UFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
FS Anthony Madison RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
FS Jarrad Page RFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
FS Anthony Smith RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
FS C.J. Wallace RFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
FS George Wilson UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent

DBT
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
ST Jared Retkofsky UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
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Post#3 » by SugarRay34 » Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:28 am

I would kill for Mangini as the DC but would not mind Nolan at all.
As far as the FA thing, I would much rather see us sign a big FA like Peppers, Haynesworth, Tank, then draft one. I want the draft to focus on LB or Secondary. I want a proven star on the line who can contribut right away
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Post#4 » by aaprigs311 » Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:35 am

Tank Johnson is a big free agent ? The guy sucks. He'll probably be in prison or dead by March anyway.
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Post#5 » by SugarRay34 » Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:41 am

Once Sanders is let go I would not be shocked at all to see Winston Moss gets serious consideration for the job. Seems like him and McCarthy are good friends and he has been around here long enough where he knows the players to put them in good situations. Seems like a smart guy
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Post#6 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:53 am

I don't want someone on the current staff as DC. We need some new blood. I also agree if we do spend free agent cash I want it on the DL. We need immediate help there. Rookies rarely have a big impact.
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Post#7 » by xTitan » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:00 am

SugarRay34 wrote:Once Sanders is let go I would not be shocked at all to see Winston Moss gets serious consideration for the job. Seems like him and McCarthy are good friends and he has been around here long enough where he knows the players to put them in good situations. Seems like a smart guy



Great move, lets hire the guy who's position was the big disappointment of all, I do not see why McCarthy is high on Moss.
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Post#8 » by SugarRay34 » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:02 am

Well this might force McCarthys hand a little bit if he really wants to keep Moss
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/36857934.html

St. Louis will be interviewing him for their HC position.
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Post#9 » by LUKE23 » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:26 am

I want an outside hire as the DC.
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Post#10 » by Wade-A-Holic » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:54 am

xTitan wrote:
SugarRay34 wrote:Once Sanders is let go I would not be shocked at all to see Winston Moss gets serious consideration for the job. Seems like him and McCarthy are good friends and he has been around here long enough where he knows the players to put them in good situations. Seems like a smart guy



Great move, lets hire the guy who's position was the big disappointment of all, I do not see why McCarthy is high on Moss.


I'm not sure how you feel about McCarthy, but I personally think he's a good coach - and by that logic, he never would have been hired here considering he was the offensive coordinator for one of the league's worst offenses the previous year.

Also, I believe the defensive line was far and away the most disappointing unit on the defense.

With that said, Bob Sanders is a freaking joke as a defensive coordinator and play caller. He might be worse than Slowik, and that says a lot. I can't even begin to describe to you how angry I got at his play calling every single game. I honestly believe his idiotic play calling cost us at least 3 wins this season. Every time we blew a lead late in the 4th, it was the same thing: drop our 2 great man cover corners out of press coverage and into a zone (where at least one of them gets himself beaten often) and only rush 4 with a completely decimated defensive line.

I'm taking a wait and see approach to our new defensive coordinator. I won't be instantly disappointed if it's Moss, because I agree with Hawk to an extent - the scheme has worked for us the past few years. We just need to get healthy, get some pass rushers, some more depth, and a coordinator who knows how to call a game.
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Post#11 » by xTitan » Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:31 am

Wade-A-Holic wrote:
xTitan wrote:
SugarRay34 wrote:Once Sanders is let go I would not be shocked at all to see Winston Moss gets serious consideration for the job. Seems like him and McCarthy are good friends and he has been around here long enough where he knows the players to put them in good situations. Seems like a smart guy



Great move, lets hire the guy who's position was the big disappointment of all, I do not see why McCarthy is high on Moss.


I'm not sure how you feel about McCarthy, but I personally think he's a good coach - and by that logic, he never would have been hired here considering he was the offensive coordinator for one of the league's worst offenses the previous year.

Also, I believe the defensive line was far and away the most disappointing unit on the defense.

With that said, Bob Sanders is a freaking joke as a defensive coordinator and play caller. He might be worse than Slowik, and that says a lot. I can't even begin to describe to you how angry I got at his play calling every single game. I honestly believe his idiotic play calling cost us at least 3 wins this season. Every time we blew a lead late in the 4th, it was the same thing: drop our 2 great man cover corners out of press coverage and into a zone (where at least one of them gets himself beaten often) and only rush 4 with a completely decimated defensive line.

I'm taking a wait and see approach to our new defensive coordinator. I won't be instantly disappointed if it's Moss, because I agree with Hawk to an extent - the scheme has worked for us the past few years. We just need to get healthy, get some pass rushers, some more depth, and a coordinator who knows how to call a game.


First off AJ Hawk should shut his mouth and learn how to play hard everytime, we focused on him Sunday and the only defender who played worse was Harris. The defense has worked under mixed results but it is not a defense that is physical, it relys on the front four to be somewhat dominant and if you go back over the past few years it has been mostly successful when they play against average to below average QB's. McCarthy came to this team with a reputation for being tough and hard nosed, his team has been anything but that, they are a soft, finesse. I REALLY want someone who is known for building and aggressive, physical defense to come in here, Moss's LB's have been hugely disappointing and most of us do not even know his defensive philosophy, but if it is anything like Sanders it would be a huge mistake, and one that could very well cost McCarthy his job.
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Post#12 » by aaprigs311 » Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:30 am

MickeyDavis wrote:I don't want someone on the current staff as DC. We need some new blood. I also agree if we do spend free agent cash I want it on the DL. We need immediate help there. Rookies rarely have a big impact.


There really isn't much talent in this DL fa class unfortunately. Besides Peppers or Haynesworth I don't see anyone worthwhile. Drafting a DE with our first pick would help a lot with depth, especially on passing downs. Jenkins could slide inside which would really help the pass rush.

Are there any sleepers I'm over looking? A lot of these guys I've never heard of. I think we'd be better off signing OL help and drafting DL. There is a plethora of capable o-linemen that could help us.
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Post#13 » by El Duderino » Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:36 am

First off AJ Hawk should shut his mouth and learn how to play hard everytime, we focused on him Sunday and the only defender who played worse was Harris.


I've been paying closer attention to Hawk as this year went on and i'm not in the camp that some are who think a new coordinator will suddenly turn him into the stud we hoped for after drafting him. The guy just doesn't look very instinctual to me and Chmura got it right when he said AJ plays like he has velcro on his jersey if a blocker gets anywhere near him. While watching him closer, it was disturbing how man times AJ was not only late getting to the running back, how many times he ended up flat on his back.

On running plays, a linebacker has to make reads in a blink, being slow to diagnose often is the difference between being able to make the play or not. Plenty of high performing linebackers over the years weren't athletic freaks, but their great instincts got them to the ball carrier while the athletic but not overly instinctual LB is late getting there. Ray Lewis being a perfect example. Hell, Bishop probably only played about 1/10th or even less snaps than that compared to Hawk, yet Bishop made some great reads and thus got to backs more times behind the line of scrimmage than AJ has all year. We don't even need to mention what a big liability he is in coverage.

Maybe, just maybe a new scheme will allow for Hawk to make a few more plays, but i have little to no hope that he'll ever thrive big time in any defensive scheme. Play making linebackers find ways to jump out on the TV screen at least sometimes, even when not in an ideal scheme, the talent simply takes over. I'm won't say Hawk made no plays at all this year, but over 16 games it's hard for me to remember a single one that sticks out.

Great move, lets hire the guy who's position was the big disappointment of all, I do not see why McCarthy is high on Moss.


I have no idea what scheme Moss would look to put in place and he very well could install a very aggressive defense i'd like to see, but i do agree that it's hard to see any big or even little success stories from the group of linebackers he coached. To me, only the DT unit was worse than our linebackers this year.
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Post#14 » by Mags FTW » Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:25 am

LUKE23 wrote:I want an outside hire as the DC.

While I agree with this, TT must be careful not to pressure MM into hiring someone he doesn't want. Doing so might make MM think the DC is more loyal to TT than him and could fracture the locker room.
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Post#15 » by humanrefutation » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:06 am

All I'm asking is that we don't pull a Larry K. with the whole Moss-Sanders situation. Just because another team wants him doesn't mean he's the best fit as our DC.
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Post#16 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:31 pm

I'd look to Jim Haslett if he's not brought back in St. Louis. McCarthy and he were on the same staff for five years in New Orleans. His defensive schemes require similar personnel to the guys we already have on the roster, and that's going to be the most important thing when looking for a new DC. I know a lot of us would love a 3-4 or maybe a shift to the Tampa 2 but that means significant roster turnover and I'm not sure Thompson wants to blow this thing up.
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Post#17 » by Wade-A-Holic » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:21 pm

Good suggestion, DB. If Haslett doesn't land a head coaching job somewhere, I would like to bring him in. I don't want us to abandon our defensive scheme. We just need a coordinator who can call a game (ie isn't allergic to blitzing/deception, and one who doesn't go into a stupid prevent zone every time we have the lead)
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Post#18 » by xTitan » Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:21 pm

DrugBust wrote:I'd look to Jim Haslett if he's not brought back in St. Louis. McCarthy and he were on the same staff for five years in New Orleans. His defensive schemes require similar personnel to the guys we already have on the roster, and that's going to be the most important thing when looking for a new DC. I know a lot of us would love a 3-4 or maybe a shift to the Tampa 2 but that means significant roster turnover and I'm not sure Thompson wants to blow this thing up.


Haslett would be a good choice if you wanted to stay with the 4-3, probably the best choice, but personnel is concerned, the Packers only have 3 lineman on the current roster who have any real value and won't need to be turned over (Kampmann, Pickett, Jenkins). Jolly is a wild card but I think we all agree he will miss at least 4 games to start, not to mention he had a very poor year this past season. I just maintain it is much harder to find quality lineman who can pressure the QB in a 4 man set than it is to find them in a 3 man set with aggressive LB's.
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Post#19 » by xTitan » Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:34 pm

I've been paying closer attention to Hawk as this year went on and i'm not in the camp that some are who think a new coordinator will suddenly turn him into the stud we hoped for after drafting him. The guy just doesn't look very instinctual to me and Chmura got it right when he said AJ plays like he has velcro on his jersey if a blocker gets anywhere near him. While watching him closer, it was disturbing how man times AJ was not only late getting to the running back, how many times he ended up flat on his back.

On running plays, a linebacker has to make reads in a blink, being slow to diagnose often is the difference between being able to make the play or not. Plenty of high performing linebackers over the years weren't athletic freaks, but their great instincts got them to the ball carrier while the athletic but not overly instinctual LB is late getting there. Ray Lewis being a perfect example. Hell, Bishop probably only played about 1/10th or even less snaps than that compared to Hawk, yet Bishop made some great reads and thus got to backs more times behind the line of scrimmage than AJ has all year. We don't even need to mention what a big liability he is in coverage.

Maybe, just maybe a new scheme will allow for Hawk to make a few more plays, but i have little to no hope that he'll ever thrive big time in any defensive scheme. Play making linebackers find ways to jump out on the TV screen at least sometimes, even when not in an ideal scheme, the talent simply takes over. I'm won't say Hawk made no plays at all this year, but over 16 games it's hard for me to remember a single one that sticks out


Perhaps your best post ever, I agree 100%, talking with some friend Sunday the thing that jumped off the page to me was that Hawk just showed no instincts playing the MLB position. A friend said perhaps he is just trying to be assignment sure and not cutting it loose because of coaching, perhaps he is correct, but I see lack of insticts at this point. My theory is while at tOSU the d-lines were so good the Hawk was able to run sideline to sideline and allow his athleticism and quickness to make plays, now at the pro level, the Packers do not have a dominant d-line and Hawk is struggling to get off of blocks because of lack of size.
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Post#20 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:49 pm

xTitan wrote:My theory is while at tOSU the d-lines were so good the Hawk was able to run sideline to sideline and allow his athleticism and quickness to make plays, now at the pro level, the Packers do not have a dominant d-line and Hawk is struggling to get off of blocks because of lack of size.


Isn't that sort of understood, though? Ray Lewis was looking like a shell of his former self until they picked up Haloti Ngata. Brian Urlacher is a completely different player when Tommie Harris isn't healthy. Nick Barnett was the 2nd or 3rd best MLB in the NFC last season when the Packers played with a health core of DTs, including Corey Williams. Even the best linebackers won't look effective unless they've got some serious talent on the the line in front of them.

That's another reason why I'm 100% against drafting another backer. Put a couple big bodies on the line that demand attention and watch Hawk and Barnett's play improve drastically.

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