BoomFizzle wants back in with GS

[scratch21]

i still dont like BD hes pretty garbage.

[PlinkingPanda]

i still dont like BD hes pretty garbage.

The sad part is, even with the crap he's been putting up. He's still one of the better PGs we've had in the past decade.

[mkwest]

I don't want read more into what was said, since Action Jackson probably has done some of that himself. Although, I can't help but zoom in on what he actually did and didn't say. You can see in his body language that he isn't happy with the way things are. He's not the only one, because everybody feels that way. Obviously no one player alone can turn this thing around, but I feel that he needs to step his game up and stop pouting. He came to this team knowing that it was all on him after bRANd bought a one way ticket to Philly.

Dunleavy is not the most compatible coach for him (or most players for that matter), but regardless Davis has the talent and skill to be producing more than he has. He definitely shouldn't be letting players like Udrih and Barea show him up. Every dog has his day, but it has been ridiculous.

[St.Nick]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/clippers/la-sp-clipperfyi30-2008dec30,0,5823572.story

Davis denied that he is ready to bail off the listing 8-21 Clippers ship.

"No, I don't want out," he told The Times on Monday at practice. "I don't know what Stephen Jackson got from my conversation. That never came out of my mouth.

"I'm here. I'm here doing the same thing I did at Golden State. The first year I got to Golden State it was rough. It was a tough season. We were figuring each other out, figuring out the system. That transition year is always a tough year."

"Obviously, in no way shape or form am I ready to jump ship.

"That's not why I came here. That's not why I committed to come here. I'm committed here to turn this thing around. I like the talent on this team, I like the promise.

"The team is going to get better. My job is to continue to get better and make this year as positive and productive as we possibly can."

Clippers General Manager and Coach Mike Dunleavy was asked whether Davis had asked to be traded. The relationship between Dunleavy and Davis often has been uneasy.

"I haven't had any of those kind of conversations with Baron," Dunleavy said.

Dunleavy said he did not plan to speak to Davis about Jackson's comments.

"You read about guys saying stuff all over the place and you never know what's true and not true, and how it's perceived or not perceived," Dunleavy said. "From our standpoint, he's our player and we're trying to make the best of our situation."

Yup. Maybe now everyone can shut up, and the team can focus on trying to see what is wrong, get it fixed and put up some Ws, with an outside playoff shot now.

What did you expect him to say though, really? And why would S-Jax just make it up out of the blue?

Baron is a bit of a prima donna. He is a super talented player and can be incredibly productive in the right system, but when he is in the wrong situation....watch out.

I think the Clips need to get rid of Dunleavy, Sr. Players seem to bristle under his direction. A coach that allows for more of an open style of play would be ideal. The only issue is whether the rest of the team would be better with a fast break coach.

And btw, I don't think the Warriors really want him back. They weren't willing to give him that contract the first time around, so I don't think they want any piece of it now.

[cinnamon]

So you think we should get rid of Dunleavy, do you?
Now why didn't any of us think of that?

[Copperhead]

ESPN is currently running a poll.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flash ... llId=65778

[illastrate]

Doesn't matter who our starting PG is - you fire Dumbleavy in ALL cases.

People are saying Baron needs to adapt, but who the hell wants to adapt to this losing style of play? I say Boom should seriously throw everything Dumb has tried to teach him out the windown and just run and play his hardest game in and game out. Who gives a damn if the coach gets pissed at first. Once he sees Baron's complete defiance(as well as the team's) has resulted in W's, then what's he gonna say? I would hope Dumb has honor like Pat Riley and step down like a man should.

[PlinkingPanda]

What did you expect him to say though, really? And why would S-Jax just make it up out of the blue?

Baron is a bit of a prima donna. He is a super talented player and can be incredibly productive in the right system, but when he is in the wrong situation....watch out.

I think the Clips need to get rid of Dunleavy, Sr. Players seem to bristle under his direction. A coach that allows for more of an open style of play would be ideal. The only issue is whether the rest of the team would be better with a fast break coach.

And btw, I don't think the Warriors really want him back. They weren't willing to give him that contract the first time around, so I don't think they want any piece of it now.

You can never be too sure about conversations. They could have just been talking about the past and how great it was, and Stephen could have easily made it seem like Baron wanted back from that. Plus we know Baron has made attempts to show that he does not want to be a part of the team. He doesn't seem to be playing with much heart right now, but I would say most of the team is that way. Everyone can agree that we need a new coach...

[St.Nick]

Well, good luck to you guys. I like Baron and want him to do well.

Perhaps bringing back his first and perhaps favorite coach, Paul Silas, could be a good move.

[madmaxmedia]

I don't want read more into what was said, since Action Jackson probably has done some of that himself.

+10. Also, what friends say amongst themselves is totally different from what Baron would say to the public. Jackson is a former teammate, maybe they were having a beer and reminiscing, etc. It's not hard to imagine Baron talking about 'the good ol' days' or whatever. It's not really important.

Although, I can't help but zoom in on what he actually did and didn't say. You can see in his body language that he isn't happy with the way things are. He's not the only one, because everybody feels that way. Obviously no one player alone can turn this thing around, but I feel that he needs to step his game up and stop pouting. He came to this team knowing that it was all on him after bRANd bought a one way ticket to Philly.

Dunleavy is not the most compatible coach for him (or most players for that matter), but regardless Davis has the talent and skill to be producing more than he has. He definitely shouldn't be letting players like Udrih and Barea show him up. Every dog has his day, but it has been ridiculous.

I think Dunleavy is part of it, but the main part is simply that this team is decimated with injuries and just doesn't match up night in and night out. Baron is a game changer, but can't carry a team by himself. I'm not saying he shouldn't be trying 100%, just that this is going to be a difficult stretch for the team no matter what.

Before ZBo got injured things were a lot different. We played a few consecutive games and they interviewed Baron and asked if he was tired. He said no, when you're winning the game is fun, just get him a massage and he'd be good to go.

[playaloc916]

I don't think he said it directly, but it's probably something Jackson implied from their conversation, like how he really liked it before in GS, and how it's tough in LA right now. Davis probably didn't mean he actually wants to be traded back though, or at least I hope so.

But as long as Dumbleavy is still the coach, I just don't see any significant improvement with this team. It's not like he's a young coach that's improving year by year. He's an older coach, who hasn't done anything significant in the past few years, with the exception of that one playoff year, which I think had more to do with Cassell than with Dumbleavy. It seems like his offensive schemes are too complicated, or he'll run the same play too many times, like with Z-Bo. I think the defense for the most part is alright. I think at one point a few years ago, we were like first or second in the league in holding the opponent's fast break points to a minimum or something. But I really think we need to shake things up with a new coach.

[illastrate]

Well, good luck to you guys. I like Baron and want him to do well.

Perhaps bringing back his first and perhaps favorite coach, Paul Silas, could be a good move.

Good one. I never thought of Silas before. He had success with the Hornets and BD. Let's do it!

[tsaem415]

Bascially the Warriors want to get the Big Three back. If we trade Baron to GSW I want Buike, Turiaf, Morrow, Crawford, 2picks unprotected,and the rookie you guys picked yp this last draft. If gSW wants baron back they should have to pay big.

I'm sorry, but you are seriously smoking some crazyass ****. You want to trade half the warriors roster and future for baron? LOL. I've seen and heard some stupid demands and trade requests b4, but that probably tops them all. Congratulations you've won. The only way ANY team would consider trading half of their players is for a true super star like lebron, kobe, dwight howard, etc. Baron is no where near their level. He is within the top 10 pg in the league, but NOT players. Come back to the reality train, the most you would be getting back would definitely include Maggette & maybe crawford plus another role player at best.

[J-Rich-]

Bascially the Warriors want to get the Big Three back. If we trade Baron to GSW I want Buike, Turiaf, Morrow, Crawford, 2picks unprotected,and the rookie you guys picked yp this last draft. If gSW wants baron back they should have to pay big.

Plus JJ come on deep down we know the article is true Baron is tanking as we speak and MD isn't going anywhere we failed again. The way the article is set up has me thinking there is no way Jack's was lying Baron really wants out.

You guys would be lucky to get only a 2nd round pick for baron. camby got sold for a 2nd round pick and he didnt play bad. baron is playing like a homeless piece of $|-|it and you want those players and 2 unprotected picks? lol

[JimmyTD3]

Yeah, this definitely takes the cake for most delusional trade request I've ever seen.

We didn't want to resign Baron in the offseason for nothing, yet we're going to trade half of our roster for him now? And 2 unprotected picks? And Anthony Randolph too?

We already have a guy who can average around 20/4/6 and chuck, his name is Stephen Jackson. No thanks.

[thanumba2clippersfan]

Well there is denial that Baron wants out. But since it did come up I'm sure Baron would like to go back North and have fun playing basketball again. Our team needs to have fun while playing basketball.

[madmaxmedia]

Getting ZBo and Kaman back alone will make basketball much 'funner'.