What are your thoughts on...

[jerseyjac]

Lamar Odom...

The Lakers, whether its Jackson, or what the coaching staff feels fits best in their rotation, are basically not utilizing Odom to his fullest potential...based on last years numbers, even when Gasol came in...we know what this guy can do if he was given the minutes...Now its no secret Trevor has been seeing more and more minutes, depending on matchups, and has been putting up really nice numbers during his minutes played...and Jackson likes to mix things up using variety of players, where we saw Walton start recently...

my questions are as follows:

Is Odom expendable in LA...do they really need him...are they interested in moving him???

Most importantly, IF, we could put deal together and the Lakers were interested...Would we do it and shoud we do it???

IMO, there is too much talent wasted with mobile big man like Lamar...A player who can pass, shoot from the outside, attack the basket and post up when called upon...he may do a lot things good and nothing great, but he's an all around player who, when focused, can get things done on the defensive side and most importantly on the glass...

Is Odom under appreciated and under used??? Would he be able to fit into the Nets lineup??? And would we be able to spark the Lakers' interest w/out moving Vince???

Very interested in your thoughts...

jj

[Da big3]

i am all for thos move if it dosent cost us VC, and he is a very verstiale player, i think it will cost a player that would help the lakers, so no draft picks, i think that maybe Keyon Dooling would intrest them since they are short at the pg position...

[Preludepunk27]

They can have Simmons/Hassell and that's it. I'm not giving up anything of value for a 1 year rental IMO. This move opens up more minutes for Hayes and CDR.

But regardless, i wouldn't do the deal unless the Nets were drooling about a FA this offseason and planned on trading Vince next year to free up the cap room for 2010. Even with this acquisition, it makes us a 2nd round exit at best in my opinion. I'd rather go with what we got now, unless a deal we can't refuse falls in our lap, and then see what happens. If we make the playoffs, fine then. It'll give our young guys confidence and perk the ears of potential 2010 FA's. If we miss the playoffs, I'm praying we land James Harden in the draft.

I don't see why some Net fans want to be a pretender playoff team so bad. Haven't you guys had enough of that for the last 5-6 years?

[S.I.C. GM]

I agree if the Lakers want Simmons/Hassel/and/or Swift I dont mind.

Actually this may help the Lakers. They get a spot up shooter when Kobe gets doubled or a Defensive SF to help defend for a combo Sf/PF that doesnt fit anymore now that Gasol and Bynum has secured that spot. Simmons did play very well in LA.

[lurkingobeiscity]

I think we are too good of a team right now. I have little interest in getting even better.

[mack69]

I like the Idea of getting Lamar.

I do not agree with the notion that we should do nothing. Development of personnell does not mean we should be okay with losing. Especially at home! I am open to any moves that will improve the team especially if you are wasting at least 20 million dollars on three players (Swift, Hassell and Simmons).

If it is my organization I am trying to teach and develop and win. I dont care if im out in the first or second round.

[lurkingobeiscity]

I like the Idea of getting Lamar.

I do not agree with the notion that we should do nothing. Development of personnell does not mean we should be okay with losing. Especially at home! I am open to any moves that will improve the team especially if you are wasting at least 20 million dollars on three players (Swift, Hassell and Simmons).

If it is my organization I am trying to teach and develop and win. I dont care if im out in the first or second round.

There is a documented big-time drop-off in the talent you can expect to get outside of the top 10 draft picks. To hope that a team with subpar talent, and no real shot at a title, makes the playoffs is ultimately counterproductive to the teams effort to rebuild and make an effort to acquire an elite grouping of NBA talent that could keep this team at the top for years.

[mack69]

^^^ I will concede one year or two with trying to get a lottery pick but not more than that. I can appreciate the value against lottery and other picks. if 2010 is the goal you must have a winning team to attract FA.

[jerseyjac]

you guys have brought up a lot of good points...I think there are numerous variables to consider when trying to make a deal like this...I just think there is a slight chance Odom is going to end in a different uni before the trade deadline...when you look at his production going back to his one year in Miami, despite being injured here and there, his numbers speak for themselves...and his ability/game could possbily bring this team together...he might even help Yi and his progress...

Its an experiment that looks too good to me, to not try...but again I hear ya guys on what was said above...

Lopez
Yi
Odom
Vince
Devin

thats a big lineup that would still be able to get up and down the floor...its very tempting...

[SpeedyG]

You know I've been one of the few Odom defenders on this board. I've been harping on an RJ/Odom deal for awhile now while most didn't like it. That being said, I don't think now is the time to look at Odom. First of, we don't have anyone expendable for Odom that the Lakers want (and match salaries with).

Second of all, he's expiring. So then, what do we do after? Is he going to be part of the nucleus after this season? Does he want to be?

So with all those questions, you obviously can't give up too much to acquire him, and that's not just going to be enough to entice LA to ship him off.

[jeff1624]

The problem with acquiring Lamar Odom are two things:

1 - Lakers don't need to trade him. He expires after this season, has surprisingly embraced his role off the bench and they wouldn't deal him unless they get better or fill a need(get devin). I on't think the lakers are interested in dealing odom for anything we have outside of Harris. They already have a young C prospect in Bynum(Boone and Lopez wouldn't get a deal done)...They have the best SG in the league(that means no VC)... We have no SF's who'd start over radmanovich(no simmons or hayes)...They have an all star 4(no to yi and Anderson)... Outside of maybe dooling(which they won't deal Lamar Odom to get...what else do we have to offer..

2. Lets say the lakers would be interested in dealing Odom for Brook or yi or whomever. Would we really do it for a 1 year rental who'll help us reach the 1st round and the get knocked off?? A lineup of Harris, Carter, Simmons, Odom, Lopez/Boone still won't be enough to compete against Boston, Cleveland or even orlando.. Besides we have enouh 4's as it is, Odom can play SOME minutes at the 3 but wouldn't be the best option to be honest.

[vincecarter4pres]

I like the Idea of getting Lamar.

I do not agree with the notion that we should do nothing. Development of personnell does not mean we should be okay with losing. Especially at home! I am open to any moves that will improve the team especially if you are wasting at least 20 million dollars on three players (Swift, Hassell and Simmons).

If it is my organization I am trying to teach and develop and win. I dont care if im out in the first or second round.

There is a documented big-time drop-off in the talent you can expect to get outside of the top 10 draft picks. To hope that a team with subpar talent, and no real shot at a title, makes the playoffs is ultimately counterproductive to the teams effort to rebuild and make an effort to acquire an elite grouping of NBA talent that could keep this team at the top for years.

Barring an injury to the Dude or Vince, we are a playoff team.
Face it.
Accept it.
41 wins makes the playoffs, maybe 7th seed.
We will have 42-45 wins.
We will not get a lotto pick next year.
That said I don't think we can get Odom without giving up a big part of our rebuild such as Yi, Anderson, Brook or CDR.
For a one year rental of a player that might get us into the 2nd round I don't think I do it.
Especially because he is a UFA after this season and will want more then he is worth and will egt in the way of the 2010 or 2011 plans.
If we could get him for Hassel, Swift and Sean Williams I would be all for it, but I don't see the Lakers biting on that, do you?
If we make a move involving our assets and cap space it needs to be a move for the present and future.

[deviljets7]

With the Lakers' current record, I can't see any trade that makes sense for both sides. For luxury tax reasons, I don't even know if they'd do Odom for Carter.

Now, if you really want Odom, there is one unconventional way to get him. If you do one of the many variations of Vince to CLE or (preferably) POR, you could could very well put yourself in a position to have $14-15 million in cap room next summer.

If Odom is willing to sign a long-term contract for around $10-12 million per year, you'd still have enough cap room to go after a max guy in 2010 to build around a core of Odom, Devin, Lopez, Yi, 2009/10 picks and whatever you get in the Carter trade.

[rag-time4]

I would love to see Swift get traded to the lakers for Odom or Walton, if possible. Swift and Gasol played with each other for a long time so there would be some instant chemistry there. Stromile would fit right in.

People around the league seem to be saying that the Lakers have been soft and Gasol has been bullied in the paint, and I think Swift would give them some much needed paint presence off the bench.

It would be great for Swift because he, like Pau, would finally get a chance to play on a truly strong team and possibly increase his free agent value.

The Nets might get a quality SF to replace Simmons or to lead the second unit.

However, I think Odom is seriously overrated. JJ said that 'when focused' he's good defensively, but from what I've seen, Odom is consistently soft on defense and shows little effort and aggression

I think Swift would be a huge upgrade for the Lakers bench.

[S.I.C. GM]

I would love to see THorn send YOU to the Lakers, Stro, I mean Ragtime.

Gasol is your boy, I mean they are friends.

[jerseyjac]

I would love to see THorn send YOU to the Lakers, Stro, I mean Ragtime.

Gasol is your boy, I mean they are friends.