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Reasons Why Celtics Lost to Lakers on Christmas

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Re: Reasons Why Celtics Lost to Lakers on Christmas 

Post#101 » by TonyMontana » Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:02 pm

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7 of our "turnovers" were offensive fouls. Ariza was clearly out of bounds when he "saved it" to Sasha for the 3 point play (ref standing right there). Rondo could not be aggressive because he picked up 2 ticky-tack fouls in the first half, and an absolutely bogus offensive foul in the 2nd half for his 4th.

With that said, the Lakers were still the better team but you've gotta be kidding me. They didn't even show the replay on most of the offensive fouls...

Let see if Im right here.
Did you see any replays on Arizas save? Did you see him stepping out of bounds?
I didnt, and I have watched that game well over 3 times already and nowhere in that entire portion of the so called out of bounds play that you claim did they show a replay or did they show Ariza stepping out of bounds.
SO, how can you asume he was out of bounds? Were you at the game sitting right underneath the basket? Did you see a different game than me and everybody else did with different replay that actually showed Ariza stepping out of bound?
I didnt, and again I watched the game well over 3 times.
Also calls went both ways for both teams, there was bogus calls that were made on the Lakers as well, but then we are not going to sit here complaining about the officials, cause if thats the case we have an entire game 2 of the finals last year that Laker fans can sit here and complain about.
Right?
It was a good game and the Lakers came to play and the better team won, lets just admit it.
To sit here and complain about Ariza stepping out of bounds when neither you or me see him step out of bounds is a wrong.
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Re: Reasons Why Celtics Lost to Lakers on Christmas 

Post#102 » by MyInsatiableOne » Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:06 pm

^^Dude, Ariza was like a foot out of bounds on that play... :o
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Re: Reasons Why Celtics Lost to Lakers on Christmas 

Post#103 » by cfan79 » Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:08 pm

This thread needs to die. LA won, we can't jump in the Delorean and change it.
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Re: Reasons Why Celtics Lost to Lakers on Christmas 

Post#104 » by TonyMontana » Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:10 pm

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And Tony, I think it's funny that you say we Celtics fans talk about last year's title when all Laker fans and the Lakers THEMSELVES have done this entire season is dwell on it, leading up to the Christmas Day game...pot, meet kettle...

Nope.
I disagree brah.
Everytime I read a thread that is involved with the Cs and Lakers, all I see if Cs fans throwing last years title in our faces, everytime.
If there is an example about the Lakers Cs fans as well as other homers form other boards keep comparing the Lakers to what happened last years finals.
I never or hardly see any Laker fans pointing out last years fianls in any thread and IF THEY DO, its only because someone else has brought it up.
So Im sorry I disagree.
Now as far as the Christmas game against you guys, YES I do know that some Laker homers, not your regular posters that actually have common sense did bring up at times that this is payback game for LA.
I agree with you on that, but like I said on a few of your threads on here, you know the one that you guys kept down playing how this game didnt really matter to you guys.
I have posted several times as to how I felt about the Christmas game, and that it is a statement game for the Lakers, and in another way it is a payback game for the Lakers and to their critics.
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Re: Reasons Why Celtics Lost to Lakers on Christmas 

Post#105 » by TonyMontana » Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:12 pm

MyInsatiableOne wrote:^^Dude, Ariza was like a foot out of bounds on that play... :o

Do me a big favor.
If you can post a replay, link, gif or anything that can prove he stepped out of bounds, then I promise you I will never come on this board EVER AGAIN.
And some of you guys know Im a man of my word.
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Re: Reasons Why Celtics Lost to Lakers on Christmas 

Post#106 » by MyInsatiableOne » Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:12 pm

TonyMontana wrote:
MyInsatiableOne wrote:^^Dude, Ariza was like a foot out of bounds on that play... :o

Do me a big favor.
If you can post a replay, link, gif or anything that can prove he stepped out of bounds, then I promise you I will never come on this board EVER AGAIN.
And some of you guys know Im a man of my word.


PLEASE can someone do this...I don't have the technology to do it but for the love of all that is holy there must be a Celtic fan who can do this...
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Re: Reasons Why Celtics Lost to Lakers on Christmas 

Post#107 » by semi-sentient » Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:46 pm

I'm curious, which Ariza play are you referring to?

The 1st save, which led to the 3-point play from Vujacic, was questionable at best. I watched the replay in slow motion several times and it was impossible to tell if he was out of bounds. This was primarily from the head on angle from the camera over the Lakers basket.

There was another angle, however, that showed Ariza's right foot to be inbounds as he jumped to throw the ball to Vujacic. If there's any question to whether or not he was out, it would be with his left foot just before he turned to throw it back in, and again, it's very difficult to tell if he was in or out based on the angles given. At worst, his foot was barely on the line, which is not quite the same as being clearly out of bounds.

The 2nd save he came from out of bounds to save the ball, so I'm assuming that that's legal since it was so blatantly obvious.

Also, on the Rondo charge, it should be pointed out that Kobe blocked his dunk attempt anyway so that play doesn't matter one bit in the grand scheme of things. If anything, Kobe would have been credited for a nice block and the result would have been the same.

I'm not going to sit here and say the reffing was even, but it was not too terribly lopsided either. It's no surprise that the home team gets the benefit of the doubt, which is consistent with how the games were reffed in the Finals.
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Re: Reasons Why Celtics Lost to Lakers on Christmas 

Post#108 » by TonyMontana » Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:54 pm

semi-sentient wrote:
Also, on the Rondo charge, it should be pointed out that Kobe blocked his dunk attempt anyway so that play doesn't matter one bit in the grand scheme of things. If anything, Kobe would have been credited for a nice block and the result would have been the same.

I'm not going to sit here and say the reffing was even, but it was not too terribly lopsided either. It's no surprise that the home team gets the benefit of the doubt, which is consistent with how the games were reffed in the Finals.

Good point, also if you watch the replay when K.G passed the ball to Rondo, Rondo dribbled once and stopped and then he dribbled again and then he hooked L.O and that's where they called the offensive foul on Rondo for hooking L.O and Kobes block on Rondo.
So even before the hook and Kobes block Rondo had double dribbled which they didnt call, so I guess we can squash that call as well, but Im still waiting on the Ariza replay. :dontknow:
And heres the replay for that.


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Re: Reasons Why Celtics Lost to Lakers on Christmas 

Post#109 » by cfan79 » Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:59 pm

After someone magically gets the picture of Ariza stepping out of bounds. How about we send TonyMontana, Jimmy Hoffas remains, Santas left nut, the man who really shot JFK, the ray who killed Steve Irwin and a karate lesson from Bruce Lee.
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Re: Reasons Why Celtics Lost to Lakers on Christmas 

Post#110 » by TonyMontana » Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:38 pm

cfan79 wrote:After someone magically gets the picture of Ariza stepping out of bounds. How about we send TonyMontana, Jimmy Hoffas remains, Santas left nut, the man who really shot JFK, the ray who killed Steve Irwin and a karate lesson from Bruce Lee.

Its okay, you can keep Santas left nut for yourself, and the other things you mentioned and just post something that shows Ariza stepped out of bounds.
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Re: Reasons Why Celtics Lost to Lakers on Christmas 

Post#111 » by cfan79 » Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:57 pm

haha, there is no proof. Just forget about it alright. There's no reason to carry on about a game that happened days ago. It doesn't effect the outcome even if someone did somehow find it.
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Re: Reasons Why Celtics Lost to Lakers on Christmas 

Post#112 » by TonyMontana » Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:36 pm

cfan79 wrote:haha, there is no proof. Just forget about it alright. There's no reason to carry on about a game that happened days ago. It doesn't effect the outcome even if someone did somehow find it.

Cool, I agree and I can respect that.
Oh and I want to wish all of my Celtic brahs........ Kefa, ProphetC as well as the rest of this board a Happy New Year guys.
Stay safe and see you guys next year.
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Re: Reasons Why Celtics Lost to Lakers on Christmas 

Post#113 » by Kefa461 » Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:14 pm

TonyMontana wrote:
cfan79 wrote:haha, there is no proof. Just forget about it alright. There's no reason to carry on about a game that happened days ago. It doesn't effect the outcome even if someone did somehow find it.

Cool, I agree and I can respect that.
Oh and I want to wish all of my Celtic brahs........ Kefa, ProphetC as well as the rest of this board a Happy New Year guys.
Stay safe and see you guys next year.


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