SI: What might of been the worst official decison ever
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That was a very bad call. 6 Players on the EFFIN court.
If that was my team I'd flip out as well.
The NBA Where 'The Worst Officiated' Happens...
That was a very bad call. 6 Players on the EFFIN court.
If that was my team I'd flip out as well.
The NBA Where 'The Worst Officiated' Happens...
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RapsFuturePG#26 wrote:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ian_thomsen/12/31/thomsen.referees/index.html
That was a very bad call. 6 Players on the EFFIN court.
If that was my team I'd flip out as well.
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Lol, when I saw it happen I thought to myself, "The NBA, where 6 on 5 happens." Of course we lost by more than 2 so f it I guess.
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I actually scoured the nba rulebook online this morning. I could find no place in the rulebook that says how many players are allowed on the floor at one time. Five? Six? Seven? Twelve?
Theoretically, the Cs should protest the game. Counting the two points scored by Portland's sixth man had an impact on the game's outcome. People - including myself - might argue that the Cs should have manned up and overcome the call. Regardless, the call affected the outcome of the game.
Practically, the Cs are in a no-win situation. The game would have to be replayed from 12sec. left in the second quarter. I don't think Stern, et al would have the balls to take away this victory from the Blazers, and I'm not sure when the Cs would ever be able to go to Portland to play a half.
One of those "life is a b!tch" moments.
Theoretically, the Cs should protest the game. Counting the two points scored by Portland's sixth man had an impact on the game's outcome. People - including myself - might argue that the Cs should have manned up and overcome the call. Regardless, the call affected the outcome of the game.
Practically, the Cs are in a no-win situation. The game would have to be replayed from 12sec. left in the second quarter. I don't think Stern, et al would have the balls to take away this victory from the Blazers, and I'm not sure when the Cs would ever be able to go to Portland to play a half.
One of those "life is a b!tch" moments.
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Oh yeah... and it would cost the Cs $10k to protest...
I think the league needs to look at the potential for protest in the course of a game. This could easily have been resolved during halftime...
I think the league needs to look at the potential for protest in the course of a game. This could easily have been resolved during halftime...
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Regardless of the FINAL score...the C's started fouling in the last 15 seconds of the game...That call had an enormous impact on the game...But, Portland did play harder than us....David Stern wants us to watch and BUY his product--but he has amateurs officiating it.
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Guys............
You have to admit it was funny, but you cant sit here and blame the idiot reffs for this lose and by you doing that takes away the good game that the Blazers played.
Your team and your coaching staff should've addressed it before the ball went into play.
This happened before half time and you shot a tech for it, so technically one point isnt going to make a huge difference.
To sit on every board and complain about this one incident not only makes you guys as fans look bad but it makes your board look like sore losers and I know most of you are better than that.
Let it go and let it die, it is what it is.
Every single team and game has its bad calls and it will happen over and over again in the future but honestly the Blazers played a hell of game, and the blame should go to your bench and wth did you put the ball in House hand when the time is running down, why not P.P or Ray Allen............. Eddie House????????????
Also most of you guys know Im a Laker fan, and Im not coming on here trolling Im only giving you guys a friend to a friend advice, the more you guys pour fuel on trolls the more they come.
But if you ignore them they go away.
Again Im not here telling you guys what needs to be done, Im only sharing my opionion with you guys, please dont attack me for it.
You have to admit it was funny, but you cant sit here and blame the idiot reffs for this lose and by you doing that takes away the good game that the Blazers played.
Your team and your coaching staff should've addressed it before the ball went into play.
This happened before half time and you shot a tech for it, so technically one point isnt going to make a huge difference.
To sit on every board and complain about this one incident not only makes you guys as fans look bad but it makes your board look like sore losers and I know most of you are better than that.
Let it go and let it die, it is what it is.
Every single team and game has its bad calls and it will happen over and over again in the future but honestly the Blazers played a hell of game, and the blame should go to your bench and wth did you put the ball in House hand when the time is running down, why not P.P or Ray Allen............. Eddie House????????????
Also most of you guys know Im a Laker fan, and Im not coming on here trolling Im only giving you guys a friend to a friend advice, the more you guys pour fuel on trolls the more they come.
But if you ignore them they go away.
Again Im not here telling you guys what needs to be done, Im only sharing my opionion with you guys, please dont attack me for it.
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The correct thing to do, would have been to take away the basket, give the C's the Tech shot...and replay those few seconds---with Portland inbounding...Hell, they might have hit a 3 pointer---but it would of at least been fair.
We didn't deserve to win-with all those turnovers late in the game though.
We didn't deserve to win-with all those turnovers late in the game though.
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TonyMontana wrote:Guys............
You have to admit it was funny, but you cant sit here and blame the idiot reffs for this lose and by you doing that takes away the good game that the Blazers played.
Your team and your coaching staff should've addressed it before the ball went into play.
This happened before half time and you shot a tech for it, so technically one point isnt going to make a huge difference.
To sit on every board and complain about this one incident not only makes you guys as fans look bad but it makes your board look like sore losers and I know most of you are better than that.
Let it go and let it die, it is what it is.
Every single team and game has its bad calls and it will happen over and over again in the future but honestly the Blazers played a hell of game, and the blame should go to your bench and wth did you put the ball in House hand when the time is running down, why not P.P or Ray Allen............. Eddie House????????????
Also most of you guys know Im a Laker fan, and Im not coming on here trolling Im only giving you guys a friend to a friend advice, the more you guys pour fuel on trolls the more they come.
But if you ignore them they go away.
Again Im not here telling you guys what needs to be done, Im only sharing my opionion with you guys, please dont attack me for it.
Celtic fans on a Celtic board do not need you to come in here and tell them what they can or cannot complain about, understood? This is a backdoor way of trolling. Nobody here wants or needs advice from anyone, but thank you anyway. I am tired of Laker fans coming in here and doing this. From now on, I'm handing out warnings like candy on Halloween. Not be be some dictator mod, but because I cannot even enjoy the Celtics or reading what most of the time is great discussion from Celtic fans, and even some others, Laker fans included, sprinkled in. End of story. Thank you and I hope everyone has a safe New Year.
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It's not complaining about "1 or 2 points".
The complaint is about the refs allowing cheating to stand.
I think the players and fans have every right to complain about cheating and the refs allowing the cheating to stand.
The complaint is about the refs allowing cheating to stand.
I think the players and fans have every right to complain about cheating and the refs allowing the cheating to stand.
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canman1971 wrote:TonyMontana wrote:Guys............
You have to admit it was funny, but you cant sit here and blame the idiot reffs for this lose and by you doing that takes away the good game that the Blazers played.
Your team and your coaching staff should've addressed it before the ball went into play.
This happened before half time and you shot a tech for it, so technically one point isnt going to make a huge difference.
To sit on every board and complain about this one incident not only makes you guys as fans look bad but it makes your board look like sore losers and I know most of you are better than that.
Let it go and let it die, it is what it is.
Every single team and game has its bad calls and it will happen over and over again in the future but honestly the Blazers played a hell of game, and the blame should go to your bench and wth did you put the ball in House hand when the time is running down, why not P.P or Ray Allen............. Eddie House????????????
Also most of you guys know Im a Laker fan, and Im not coming on here trolling Im only giving you guys a friend to a friend advice, the more you guys pour fuel on trolls the more they come.
But if you ignore them they go away.
Again Im not here telling you guys what needs to be done, Im only sharing my opionion with you guys, please dont attack me for it.
Celtic fans on a Celtic board do not need you to come in here and tell them what they can or cannot complain about, understood? This is a backdoor way of trolling. Nobody here wants or needs advice from anyone, but thank you anyway. I am tired of Laker fans coming in here and doing this. From now on, I'm handing out warnings like candy on Halloween. Not be be some dictator mod, but because I cannot even enjoy the Celtics or reading what most of the time is great discussion from Celtic fans, and even some others, Laker fans included, sprinkled in. End of story. Thank you and I hope everyone has a safe New Year.
No problem...............
Its your board and your the mod of this board and I can respect that.
*Note* I wasn't telling you guys what you can or cant complain about I was simply sharing my advice but like I said I do respect your post and your input and Im over it.
Take care and Have safe New Year and Happy one as well.
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TonyMontana wrote:Guys............
You have to admit it was funny, but you cant sit here and blame the idiot reffs for this lose and by you doing that takes away the good game that the Blazers played.
Your team and your coaching staff should've addressed it before the ball went into play.
This happened before half time and you shot a tech for it, so technically one point isnt going to make a huge difference.
To sit on every board and complain about this one incident not only makes you guys as fans look bad but it makes your board look like sore losers and I know most of you are better than that.
Let it go and let it die, it is what it is.
Every single team and game has its bad calls and it will happen over and over again in the future but honestly the Blazers played a hell of game, and the blame should go to your bench and wth did you put the ball in House hand when the time is running down, why not P.P or Ray Allen............. Eddie House????????????
Also most of you guys know Im a Laker fan, and Im not coming on here trolling Im only giving you guys a friend to a friend advice, the more you guys pour fuel on trolls the more they come.
But if you ignore them they go away.
Again Im not here telling you guys what needs to be done, Im only sharing my opionion with you guys, please dont attack me for it.
In every thread about this you have stated that it was the Celtics' fault for not saying anything. Just stop. The Celtics were yelling at the referees while the play was happening. Either you did not watch the game or did not pay careful attention to the play. At any rate, your ignorance is not excusable. Stop posting your garbage.
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CHryptic wrote:TonyMontana wrote:Guys............
You have to admit it was funny, but you cant sit here and blame the idiot reffs for this lose and by you doing that takes away the good game that the Blazers played.
Your team and your coaching staff should've addressed it before the ball went into play.
This happened before half time and you shot a tech for it, so technically one point isnt going to make a huge difference.
To sit on every board and complain about this one incident not only makes you guys as fans look bad but it makes your board look like sore losers and I know most of you are better than that.
Let it go and let it die, it is what it is.
Every single team and game has its bad calls and it will happen over and over again in the future but honestly the Blazers played a hell of game, and the blame should go to your bench and wth did you put the ball in House hand when the time is running down, why not P.P or Ray Allen............. Eddie House????????????
Also most of you guys know Im a Laker fan, and Im not coming on here trolling Im only giving you guys a friend to a friend advice, the more you guys pour fuel on trolls the more they come.
But if you ignore them they go away.
Again Im not here telling you guys what needs to be done, Im only sharing my opionion with you guys, please dont attack me for it.
In every thread about this you have stated that it was the Celtics' fault for not saying anything. Just stop. The Celtics were yelling at the referees while the play was happening. Either you did not watch the game or did not pay careful attention to the play. At any rate, your ignorance is not excusable. Stop posting your garbage.
Its one thing your mod addressing me and its another thing for you to call me ingnorant.
Choose your words carefully brah.
I agreed with your mod and I drop the subject, but dont sit here and take advantage of the situation and call me names.
By the way I did watch the game and the play had resumed and technically the shot was already made when the reffs called a tech.
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Hey "brah," I call it as I see it. Deal with it.
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NBA officials are the worst in all professional sports. There's simply no accountability for these guys. Every game on every night, there are a handful of just awful calls made. I'm not saying that to justify what happened with the 6 on 5 play, it's just a fact. If you look at things objectively, it happens all the time. There were a number of ridiculous calls that went against Portland last night too. That 3pt play by Pierce near the end of the game was a blatant travel. Or apparently if you initiate the contact, you can still get a foul called on the defender (again, looking at a late game play by Pierce).
Now again, before any of you get your panties in a bind, I'm not justifying the main play in question here. That was a bad call. IMO, the refs should have looked at the replay, see what the clock was at before the possession started, reset the clock and give the Blazers back the ball out of bounds. Basically, just restart the play like the 6 on 5 never happened. Maybe still assess the Blazers a T for making the mistake, but just redo everything from before that play happened. That would have made more sense than letting the Blazers keep the bucket when they had 6 players on the court. Or, if they really didn't want to redo the play, they could have just given the Celtics 2 T's instead of just 1.
This is just a microcosm of a bigger problem though. There's simply no accountability for NBA refs. They don't have to answer any questions about blown plays, only one of them is available after games to talk to reporters, and even then, reporters are only allowed to ask about interpretation of rules, which is pretty pointless. There's too many rules that are too easy to just be "judgment calls" in the NBA.
Now again, before any of you get your panties in a bind, I'm not justifying the main play in question here. That was a bad call. IMO, the refs should have looked at the replay, see what the clock was at before the possession started, reset the clock and give the Blazers back the ball out of bounds. Basically, just restart the play like the 6 on 5 never happened. Maybe still assess the Blazers a T for making the mistake, but just redo everything from before that play happened. That would have made more sense than letting the Blazers keep the bucket when they had 6 players on the court. Or, if they really didn't want to redo the play, they could have just given the Celtics 2 T's instead of just 1.
This is just a microcosm of a bigger problem though. There's simply no accountability for NBA refs. They don't have to answer any questions about blown plays, only one of them is available after games to talk to reporters, and even then, reporters are only allowed to ask about interpretation of rules, which is pretty pointless. There's too many rules that are too easy to just be "judgment calls" in the NBA.
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The only thing about this that really aggravates me (besides the fact that our veteran-laden team couldn't get over this bad call and finish the job) is that the refs refused to take the 2 points off the board. Their lame excuse that they don't rewrite a game is total BS. They frequently check the video tape with respect to whether a made basket should count and 2 or 3 points and they always check the video to determine if a shot beat the buzzer.
It's just a total cop-out and they should be ashamed, not that they didn't catch the first error, but because they didn't address it in an equitable manner.
It's just a total cop-out and they should be ashamed, not that they didn't catch the first error, but because they didn't address it in an equitable manner.
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PPAW4Life wrote:It's not complaining about "1 or 2 points".
The complaint is about the refs allowing cheating to stand.
I think the players and fans have every right to complain about cheating and the refs allowing the cheating to stand.
The refs don't have the authority to negate those 2 points. They can't do what's not in the rulebook. It took them decades until they could finally review timekeeper mistakes and clock malfunctions at the end of quarters. Took them decades to be able to review buzzer beating baskets.
Some fans think they can review footage whenever they want. Not so. Some fans think they can change anything they want during the times when they can review film. Not so. In this case, the only expressed power they have is to give a T to the other team (until the league amends the rule).
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Horrible calls are made in every single pro-sports game that I have ever watched. But let's get a little bit real here Celtic fans. That play cost you 1 point. If the Blazers did not commit that goof, and scored anyway, you may have actually GAINED a point.
But refs made a number of more damaging calls against the Blazers, though they weren't nearly as funny. Remember when Sergio fouled Tony Allen as he was driving to the hoop, near the free throw line, and the refs gave him foul shots, even though he was no where near the act of shooting.
Or when Kevin ran down the court and did a flop against LaMarcus and got to the line. Or when Garnett shoved Aldridge on an ally-oop attempt, no call, that cost the Blazers points. Or the travel called on Greg Oden for no apparant reason...that potentially cost the Blazers points.
If you're going to whip out a protest, the other side can document all of the bad calls which went against them. Have the results of any game in NBA or NFL history every been overturned due to a bad call? And yet, instead of just accepting this loss, you want the LEAGUE to over-turn it?
But refs made a number of more damaging calls against the Blazers, though they weren't nearly as funny. Remember when Sergio fouled Tony Allen as he was driving to the hoop, near the free throw line, and the refs gave him foul shots, even though he was no where near the act of shooting.
Or when Kevin ran down the court and did a flop against LaMarcus and got to the line. Or when Garnett shoved Aldridge on an ally-oop attempt, no call, that cost the Blazers points. Or the travel called on Greg Oden for no apparant reason...that potentially cost the Blazers points.
If you're going to whip out a protest, the other side can document all of the bad calls which went against them. Have the results of any game in NBA or NFL history every been overturned due to a bad call? And yet, instead of just accepting this loss, you want the LEAGUE to over-turn it?
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Take another puff Blazer fan..
Nobody wants the league to overturn the call, they just want the NBA to atleast state it was an egregious error on their employees part. You're right though, there are bad calls every game, it's just that those ones have come to be accepted and are par for the course, whereas this one is a blatant disregard for one of the fundamental rules of the game, 5on5.
Nobody wants the league to overturn the call, they just want the NBA to atleast state it was an egregious error on their employees part. You're right though, there are bad calls every game, it's just that those ones have come to be accepted and are par for the course, whereas this one is a blatant disregard for one of the fundamental rules of the game, 5on5.