10 things about possibly signing Marbury

Gant · Post #1 » by **Gant** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 8:25 pm

First a couple of jokes:

1) He's gotta have a leprechaun tattoo on there somewhere.

2) His cousin left a handgun in a locker and needs to get it back.

(cymbal crash) Ok on with the post:

I've never had a good thing to say about this guy. Here's some highlights:

3) Every team he's left has gotten better. Every team he's joined has gotten worse.

4) He's selfish on the court, and...

5) ...he seems just a tiny bit totally out of his freakin' mind.

Having said all that here's why signing Marbury might still be a good idea:

6) Marbury has always been The Man. That's never worked out too well. In Boston though he won't be The Man; he'll only be the sixth man which is a lot easier.

7) Coming off the bench he'll be going against second line players instead of starters most of the time. He still has talent enough to do very well against such guys.

8) The Celtics badly need a scorer to help their second string. Marbury can do that. He also allows Eddie House to play more of his natural off guard spot. So it helps at two positions. It also will help Powe and Baby inside as their men will be shifting away defensively more often.

9) Being a selfish player is really bad when you're starting, but you want your sixth man to have a little of that. He needs to take charge of what has at least temporarily become a moribund second string. Marbury taking some shots a la Andrew Toney could be good.

Finally:

10) Here's the bottom line- Danny and Doc will know BEFORE they sign him if this will work. So if they are for bringing in Marbury that's all you need to know. If he comes here IT WILL WORK. End of story. The skies will clear, Stephon will burst onto the scene as a curiously positive on-court presence and all the problems of his past will vanish like vapor.

BUT if Danny does NOT sign him then you can rest assured that Mr. Marbury is just too non compos mentis, and is too self-centered and toxic to ever help a team win a title.

Prophet_C · Post #2 » by **Prophet_C** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 8:43 pm

11. He's pissed and wants to prove that he can still play.

Gant · Post #3 » by **Gant** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 8:47 pm

Prophet_C wrote:11. He's pissed and wants to prove that he can still play.

Yeah, he'll be fiercely motivated.

It's just Danny's stamp of approval that I want here. There's too many unknowns to figure this thing out beforehand.

SuigintouEV · Post #4 » by **SuigintouEV** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 9:06 pm

12) Even even if he's "selfish", he's still a guy who's can put up assists. Something T.A. and Eddie House can't really do much of.

Hemingway · Post #5 » by **Hemingway** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 9:07 pm

You said it gant; if he comes here it will work. Right now there are two ways things can go: 1 Marbs will play well and be a good fit somewhere or 2 he will not. If it is the later case I doubt he agrees to come here. He could start somewhere...

Post #6 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 9:14 pm

The only reason I am really for this, and I am not shouting that I want marbury either, but it would be Bill Belicheckesque. Bring in a guy who had talent but is now known as a cancer and turn him into a good player. If ainge and Doc were to get marbury to work hard then it makes this team even more impressive. And all the media members who like to crap on the celtics could not say anything bad about it.

EJay33 · Post #7 » by **EJay33** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 9:46 pm

Why are you trying to justify this? Points 1-5 were sufficient. Danny and Doc aren't fortune tellers, nor are they flawless. They have made a lot of bad moves along with a handful of good moves. You could easily argue that they haven't done anything good since last offseason.

You went your whole life without ever saying anything good about the guy, now just because he's in the mix to become a Boston Celtic you're going to go back on everything we've seen starting in the 1996-1997 season? Why? This guy has easily been in the biggest cancer in the NBA for the past 10 years. I'd encourage everyone to youtube him before talking themselves into this. He is a complete idiot. Hey, at least LeBron is happy that Marbs is bringing his insanity to Boston. Just a bafflingly unnecessary move. This team could use an upgrade at the Big Baby/TA positions, not Stephon freaking Marbury.

BillessuR6 · Post #8 » by **BillessuR6** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 10:07 pm

Wow, Marbury gets his own 10 things thread from Gant!?! Not even the big three come close to that... :lol:

Gant · Post #9 » by **Gant** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 10:15 pm

Godmoney wrote:Why are you trying to justify this? Points 1-5 were sufficient. Danny and Doc aren't fortune tellers, nor are they flawless. They have made a lot of bad moves along with a handful of good moves. You could easily argue that they haven't done anything good since last offseason.

You went your whole life without ever saying anything good about the guy, now just because he's in the mix to become a Boston Celtic you're going to go back on everything we've seen starting in the 1996-1997 season? Why? This guy has easily been in the biggest cancer in the NBA for the past 10 years. I'd encourage everyone to youtube him before talking themselves into this. He is a complete idiot. Hey, at least LeBron is happy that Marbs is bringing his insanity to Boston. Just a bafflingly unnecessary move. This team could use an upgrade at the Big Baby/TA positions, not Stephon freaking Marbury.

I still haven't said anything good about Marbury. I have only said that hypothetically speaking, modern science is always coming up with new techniques and treatments for all sorts of pathology and that until this meandering path has completely made its way from the pasture to the barn we will not be able to give a definitive closing to this terribly complicated barnyard scenario as carcinogenic allegations remain too vague to properly gauge their effect on the ultimate outcome of the matter at hand.

I hope that clears things up.

Gant · Post #10 » by **Gant** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 10:17 pm

thebirdman wrote:Wow, Marbury gets his own 10 things thread from Gant!?! Not even the big three come close to that...

Up until recently I have heated my home solely by burning Marbury jerseys. Not many people know this but they emit no greenhouse gasses.

Tenbomber · Post #11 » by **Tenbomber** » Fri Jan 2, 2009 10:35 pm

He's an intimidating factor for sure Gant... and I'm sure if you ask him he would tell you his sh-t dont stink... but he is talented nonetheless and should he become a Celtic, I forsee Marbury taking a turn at the point behind Rondo... I also see him as a backup for Ray...much like Eddie is now...

If Marbury does join the C's I wouldn't be surprised if House, Scal and one of the rooks are not dealt at the deadline for a power forward / center....

I'd love to see a trade senario with the Spurs....perhaps for the lightly used Francisco Oberto and the veteran Micheal Finley....

I'm sure Eddie House would fit right in there with the Spurs...as would Scal behind Bonner...

Oberto would be very usefull as a backup for both Perk and KG...could see him guarding Pau Gasol when the Lakers go large...should the Lakers and the Celts make it to the finals....

Finley could fill Eddie's present role as a shooting guard behind Ray when Marbury is at point....just a thought.... 8-)

Fencer reregistered · Post #12 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 12:05 am

Celtics_Champs wrote:The only reason I am really for this, and I am not shouting that I want marbury either, but it would be Bill Belicheckesque. Bring in a guy who had talent but is now known as a cancer and turn him into a good player.

Actually, it would be Auerbachian.

Dennis Johnson was LITERALLY called a "cancer" by his prior team, despite a resume that included All-Star appearances and an NBA Finals MVP. But when he showed up, Larry Bird immediately called him "the best teammate I ever had."

CelticFaninLBC · Post #13 » by **CelticFaninLBC** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 2:44 am

With the Big 3 a year older, they need more from the bench this year to maintain homecourt... It's doubtful they can trade for anyone who can provide nearly as much scoring as Marbury. TA's just not getting the job done..

Havlicek17 · Post #14 » by **Havlicek17** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 3:27 am

I might hate myself in the morning for saying this, but I would be O.K. with Marbury coming to the Celtics as a rental for one year. I do think he would improve the bench and most importantly I'd hate to see him go to Cleveland or LA.

I think he would be highly motivated for the remainder of the year. He'll get an opportunity to win a title and an opportunity to clean the slate, then move on.

The downside is much worse if he goes to Cleveland or LA.

GregB · Post #15 » by **GregB** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 4:23 am

The only reason I think this could work is because of Doc and the Big Three. Frankly, Mike Dantoni is a pretty good coach. But, The guy has a huge ego and seems like an ass. Guys like Marbury need to be coddled into giving their best performance. That's not how Mike Dantoni rolls. But, That's definitely Doc's MO. Thats the only reason I think it could work.

Bad-Thoma · Post #16 » by **Bad-Thoma** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 2:52 pm

Marbury, the Celtics, and the Boston sports media just don't seem like a match made in heaven. However I'm fairly certain that KG will eat Starb's heart if he step's out of line.

Post #17 » by **UGA Hayes** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 3:14 pm

Marbury's comment about how "excited" everyone will be about seeing him and KG reunited makes me a whole lot less enthusiastic about going for him. I don't get the sense he understands that we would him to come in shutup and play. Plus I'm wary of chemistry. Players don't seem to like him at all and its not like he has played with no nosense type guys. Its been other bums who have called him out.

Kids Are Alright · Post #18 » by **Kids Are Alright** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 3:21 pm

thru 04-05, he's an 8+ assist, 21ppg player in 38 minutes.
it's gotta be a brain lesion or something
I wonder what kg thought of him?
maybe with his ego he's got to play for a contender
stats alone say we've gotta get it done IF he passes physical/mental exams, he may have gone both psycho and Antoine on us...how much of that salary would we have to cough up?
I want to go on record for saying that I think the idea of cheap decent shoes was a fine idea, too bad it came at the end of his actual playing career, maybe he shot his wad with that idea

EJay33 · Post #19 » by **EJay33** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 5:17 pm

Gant wrote:[

I still haven't said anything good about Marbury. I have only said that hypothetically speaking, modern science is always coming up with new techniques and treatments for all sorts of pathology and that until this meandering path has completely made its way from the pasture to the barn we will not be able to give a definitive closing to this terribly complicated barnyard scenario as carcinogenic allegations remain too vague to properly gauge their effect on the ultimate outcome of the matter at hand.

I hope that clears things up.

He's 3-3 in terms of being removed from a team and the team doubling it's win percentage the very next season, with the Knicks having a decent chance to make it 4-4. It might not have the same P value as the likelyhood that Tim Donaghy was effecting the outcome of NBA games, but as far as analyzing the impact of sports players on teams that's about as scientific as you're going to get.

It's like if I gave you a hammer and said hit yourself in the face with it. Had you lived in a fantasy land for your entire life you might be surprised to learn that it hurts. The second time I asked you to hit yourself in the face with a hammer you might assume that the pain from the initial blow was due to chance and not due to the blow from the hammer. That's fine, but if it hurts the second time, you'd best learn your lesson for hammer blow to the face #3. Since Marbury has tried and failed more miserably than any other player past or present in four different locations, the Celtics signing Marbury would be the equivalent of hitting yourself in the face with a hammer 5 times without learning the lesson that it hurts to do it. An absolutely asinine move. Everyone I know that isn't a Celtics fan is laughing at the Celtics right now, including Knicks fans who have had the joy for enduring the most recent chapter in the Stephon Marbury story.

BigHands · Post #20 » by **BigHands** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 6:48 pm

UGA Hayes wrote:Marbury's comment about how "excited" everyone will be about seeing him and KG reunited makes me a whole lot less enthusiastic about going for him. I don't get the sense he understands that we would him to come in shutup and play. Plus I'm wary of chemistry. Players don't seem to like him at all and its not like he has played with no nosense type guys. Its been other bums who have called him out.

I agree...I have visions of KG incarcerated after 6 weeks with Marbury.