Health Tracker-Offseason Recovery

[hands11]

I was just wondering if anyone has heard or read anything. I can't find any information.

Blatche http://myespn.go.com/s/conversations/show/story/3864457
1/27/09 Out with a strained left knee 2-4 weeks

ETA 2/10 to 2/24
Returned 2/17 MIN


ETAN
Before we get started, I'm not saying Etan is the answer to our problems. I'm just curious about what is going on with him. He was a starter to start the season so he was healthy enough to do that. Then he was benched for McGee which was smart at the time but he was still playing some off the bench. Then he missed 2 games because he was being evaluated at some heart clinic. Then he hasn't played a min since. I was surprised not to see him at all against Charlotte since he had the size to bang with Okafur.

So since he went for a heart eval 3 games ago we haven't heard anything or seen anything from him.
I wonder because this has some effect on the team regarding salaries and trades. It's almost like he isn't on the team with the amount of new you hear about him.

Etan 2nd Injury MCL out again 1/12
They are trying to avoid surgery

-Tapscott said Thomas is at least two to four weeks from running, and another two to four weeks from practicing after he begins running again

ETA 2/12 - 3/12

HAYWOOD
Link to original threat with details on the injury
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=856622

Out 4-6 months

Injured Oct 2nd
Surgery Oct 16th
Projected to have cast 2 1/2 months.

Cast Removed Dec 22nd 2008 - On time or a week early so that's good.
Pins removed Jan Wed 7th, 2009
After that - range of motion and strength treatment
Status - 2/27/09 - Haywood was recently cleared for non-contact drills and for games of one-on-one

ETA 2/1 - 4/1 - but Haywood has made noise about sitting out the season. I think they will target him to return with GA around 3/7 if he can go.

Status -3/15/09 - Cleared to practice

Haywood returns to play 4/1/09

GILBERT

Injured - April 2007 against Charlotte
Three surgeries on the knee in 17 months
3rd surgery - arthroscopic procedure removed a "moderate amount of debris - 9/17/2008

The doctor who performed the operation Wednesday said debris buildup is common in Arenas' type of injury, and that an MRI showed the knee to be structurally sound.

ETA - plans to be back on the court in early December 2008. Another goal was 3/3 so they have 20 games to see what they have in him so they know what to do this off season. 3/7 @ Dallas is 20 games.

GA - Interesting we still don't have a time table. I guess they could be playing it were they don't want him to come back if they are going to tank. We could be pulling a Miami like they did with Wade.

Status - 2/17/08 Practicing
Scheduled to return Sat March 28th 2009

Gil did return on 3/28 and dished 4 assists in like 5 plays to start the game. Then he nailed a 3. He looked great. He drives are there yet but he looks like a more mature smarter player then when he left.

DSleezy

3/3/09 - Officially out for the season with back problem awaiting surgery.


Mike James
3/28/09 broken pinky finger out of the remainder of the season

[ZonkertheBrainless]

I think GA is done. He should have been back last year. I think his performance level when he came back for eight games last year is about all we're ever gonna get from him. He's basically going to be a three point specialist when he comes back, worth maybe the mle, maybe a little more.

[LyricalRico]

I don't know when Gil will be back but he's currently 6th among East guards in All Star voting.

[FreeBalling]

Gil signs the MAX DEAL then breaks the news about a clean out for the knee. I hate our MEDICAL STAFF, so are we F'd for 5 more years now. 111 Mill just pissed away.

[hands11]

Etan lives.
He got 2 minutes tonight.

As for GA. Up until the CLE game I don't think that we were in full tank mode. I believe they were still trying to make a season of it. But since that game they are releasing rumors that GA my sit out the season. This is after he was interviewed during the game saying he could come back now or in January.

They played CLE tough. If we could have gotten more from CB or anything out of NY or DS ( aside from the refs ) we could have won.

[rockymac52]

i'm personally not making anything of the arenas sitting out the season rumors. all of that stems from a little ivan carter tidbit, which he doesn't even provide a source, and he said it's just rumblings. gilbert clearly wants to play. we know gilbert, he loves basketball, he's going to want to at least get on the court and work things out even if it's not in a meaningful game. and the trainers couldn't possibly claim gilbert isn't 100% for that much longer. maybe we have to wait until the allstar break, but by then I am very sure gil will be playing at least for 15 minutes a game for us.

[hands11]

http://www.fantasysp.com/player/nba/Caron_Butler/185970

CARON IS OK
An MRI Caron Butler's ankle confirmed the diagnosis of a sprain, and he's still being called day-to-day with the injury. The Wizards next play on Friday in Boston, and an update on his status for that game is expected to be available after Wizards practice on Thursday. [...]


Looks like he is ok.

[daSwami]

For what it's worth, I've got a nasty cold.

[BigA]

For what it's worth, I've got a nasty cold.

You're never going to be worth more than the MLE.

[hands11]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01745.html

CARON TO RETURN FOR BOSTON GAME
After missing the last three games because of a sprained left ankle, Wizards forward Caron Butler expects to play tonight when Washington visits Boston.

Butler is the team's leading scorer (21 points per game) and is the only player in the league other than Cleveland's LeBron James averaging at least 20 points, 6 rebounds and 4 assists, so his value can't be overestimated against a Celtics team that drilled the Wizards, 122-88, at Verizon Center on Dec. 11.

Butler said the problem has been on the inside part of the left ankle, and he has had trouble pushing off his left foot.

"It's just a matter of getting it loosened up to the point where I can move on it," Butler said.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Caron played the game they got drilled 88-122 by Boston. Ivan's assertion about Caron's value seems fallacious to me, anyway. His presence didn't keep them from getting stomped before.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_y ... 2008121127

I think Butler should get further tests and continue to sit. Let McGuire get some burn. Wizards won't lose by 34, regardless.

Even if Butler gets loose and guts out a great performance there's always a chance he's making his foot worse. Why have Eddie Tapscott do just like Eddie Jordan and play the man 40 minutes, regardless of the outcome?

THE BEST THING THE WIZARDS COULD DO IS BEAT BOSTON THE SAME WAY PORTLAND DID.

I watched the game where the Blazers started three rookies (Fernandez, Oden, Batum) and beat the Celtics. They beat the Celtics by playing physical ball and by using young legs. Outlaw's dunk over Garnett at the end was sweet.

The Wizards can run James, Young, McGuire, Jamison, and Blatche and give the Celtics a much better game than they would with Butler and Jamison taking all the shots and not playing good defense.

If Butler's healthy, fine let him go for it with McGuire getting burn off the bench.

I think after missing three games and him still being gimpy the last thing they should is what will probably happen: Play Butler 40 and lose.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Number me as one not excited about Caron returning.

Don't get me wrong... I love Tough Juice, but the risks don't at all equal the rewards.

In this Orwellian season, where a win is a loss and a loss is a win, the only time I really want to see Butler is when (if?) Gil and Brendan return so that we (actually EG) can evaluate where we are with the pieces we have in place.

I hate to say this because it has been a long, cold winter. I really miss getting keyed up for Wiz games, getting my adrenaline flowing as the 9pm hour hits and the game winds toward the final 7-8 minutes with the outcome still in doubt. A Gil buzzer beater in a season where we are jockeying for playoff position leaves me warm all night no matter what the weather.

This year, I just keep thinking about June and those ping pong balls... and I hate it.

[hands11]

ping pong ball or go for it


It is a tough thing to deal with but regardless of which side we fall on - ping pong ball or go for it, there is the reality of what the organization is actually doing. For me, I think they are still going for it. At least for now. Only difference from now and in the past is that we are going for it using some of our younger players instead of just straight vets.

Now I don't know the right combo to beat Boston. It could be us running them with younger legs.

AB, AJ, DMAC, NY, James - That could work with DMAC on PP but you have AJ on KG

I would want AB to can go against KG which mean we need someone to cover there C.

Etan or McGee, AB, DMAC, AJ, James

As much as I would like McGee to be the one at center, until he is more reliable I think Etan is the safer beat to pound with their center.

So my line up would be.

Etan, AB, DMAC, AJ, James - If CB is healthy enough to play, he can come off the bench if needed just for limited minutes.

This gives us McGee, DSong, CB, NY, Dixon - off the bench.

Lets see what the riverboat gambler do with our players tonight.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Etan has looked way better lately. Etan at C with AB at PF and AJ at SF might very well work out, hands.

[hands11]

Etan has looked way better lately. Etan at C with AB at PF and AJ at SF might very well work out, hands.

But this my be the time for a bigger experiment. AJ at SG. I know people will think I crazy. That's already established. But AJ can't cover PP at SF. We need DMAC there on him.

Etan 6-10 260 vs Cedric Perkin 6-10 280
Blatche 6-11 250 vs KG 6-11 250
DMAC 6-9 220 age 23 vs PP 6-7 235 age 31
AJ 6-9 235 vs Ray Allen 6-5 205 - Ray has the advantage on one end, AJ on the other
James 6-2 188 vs Rondo 6-1 171

The most interesting match up is AJ and Allen. Certainly Allen can run AJ around but Etan and AB can clear the middle and let AJ go one-on-one against Allen in the post. He could get him in foul trouble which would brake up the 3 amigos. That would force them to go more to PP which would be covered by DMAC. I don't mind that challenge.

You can also put CB on PP but with CB coming off injury, better not to start him. Plus I don't see us bringing AJ off the bench after he has been playing like a warrior while CB has been out.

I think this would be our best chance to match up defensively by slowing down their heart PP, and KG while swapping pts at SG with us having the advantage of getting fouls at SG.

For me, this teams problems has always been centered around finding more creative line up involving CB and AJ since SF is undersized at SF and AJ is at PF. But both have unique talents that can translate to other positions which allows us to play bigger more balanced line ups.

[hands11]

Post Boston loss.

CB is back and looked healthy on the sprained ankle

DS is out with a back disc problem. 2 to 2 1/2 weeks.

I don't know where that come from.
Hmmm. So it's been bothering him since pre-season ?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02363.html

"Stevenson said his back has been bothering him since training camp and an X-ray taken on Wednesday revealed a disk problem."

We really do need a new medical staff. I sure hope this wasn't the first X-Ray after all this time passing.

AB turned and ankle really badly but came back and ran fine but left the game anyway.
Hope he is ok. Will be evaluated Saturday.

GA rumored to be coming back soon but still no time table.

Haywood has cast removed from wrist on Dec 22. Scheduled for rehab.
One month min.

[hands11]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02362.html


Haywood Cast Removed but still has pins in.

Wizards: C Brendan Haywood remains out but recently had the cast protecting his surgically repaired right wrist removed. He is waiting to have a pin removed from the wrist before he can begin rehabilitation.

[hands11]

Blatche was limited to light activity in practice yesterday and will be a game-time decision against Clevelend at MCI but they don't have Z.

If Blatche can't go this is going to be really an up hill climb.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02008.html

"The Wizards have been without Gilbert Arenas and Brendan Haywood all season but have been hit by a new wave of injuries. Guard DeShawn Stevenson missed Friday's game and expects to be out as long as 2 1/2 weeks because of a lower back problem. Starting center Andray Blatche, who sprained his left ankle in the first quarter Friday night, was limited to light activity in practice yesterday and will be a game-time decision.

Blatche, who appeared in all 82 games last season, has yet to miss a game this season and has been one of the team's most consistent performers of late. In 11 games as a starter, Blatche is averaging 11.1 points and 6.5 rebounds while shooting 45.7 percent.

If he can't go, interim coach Ed Tapscott could elect to start veteran Etan Thomas or rookie JaVale McGee. "

Starting or not, you asking for McGee to make a great stride in his recent play if we are going to win without Blatche.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I don't mind if AB can't play, though he will be missed.

With Iguaskas out, I think this would be real good game for McGee to play in and for Etan to start Varajeo has game, but is foul prone himself. As long as they don't fall for his flops both Javale and Etan can compete with Varejao.

[WizarDynasty]

I don't mind if AB can't play, though he will be missed.

With Iguaskas out, I think this would be real good game for McGee to play in and for Etan to start Varajeo has game, but is foul prone himself. As long as they don't fall for his flops both Javale and Etan can compete with Varejao.

Watching Soft Mcgee gets tossed like a rag doll in a prison shower just make me cringe. I have never seen a player with such poor leg strength and lower back strength. I don't think he has done a squat a day in his life and if he does he will probably have backproblems. His body is built like a small forward and he hates contact and is extremely passive as if he has been picked on his entire life by bullies. Depressing. I see no fierce attack in at all. How does a seven footer with bad knees do squats for the first time in 20 years. His mother really didn't help him much when it came to developing his lower power base. I just had really high expectations for him until i saw how easy he seems to give up on the court. Begin of season, he seemed really sharp and aggressive. Now he seems to be making the same mistakes Etan makes. Maybe etan is rumbing off on him which is a very bad sign, although i did like the alley oop catch from Java to java.
Leg strength is going to be serious long term problem for Mcgee because its not something that can be fixed in a few months.
It looks like he has stopped working with the Agility trainer he had during the draft workouts.