The Official Sean Williams Watch

[vincecarter4pres]

Sean Williams with 10 points on 4-7 shooting, 8 rebounds, 3 blocks, 1 steal, 0 assists and 6 fouls in 27 minutes tonight in a 94-95 loss.

[rag-time4]

+/- is one of the most overrated stats in basketball.

LOL yes especially since it's hardly ever mentioned! It's always points, assists, and rebounds, with very little mention of blocks, steals, and +/-.

Sean Williams had 6 blocks in his second game, playing just 17 minutes.

Here's Sean Williams' D-league game log

Unfortunately he's shooting about as well as Ryan Anderson so he needs to pick it up a bit offensively. Hopefully his coach there uses him a bit more. He's only been playing about 17 mpg so far.

[VCRJKidd15]

Williams needs to stop playing like greg oden.

[rag-time4]

A quick trip to netsdaily led to an article discussing Sean Williams.

He is playing small forward in the d-league!

The biggest curveball here might be Williams’ reaction—unilaterally deciding that while down in Colorado, he wants to play small forward. This coming from a guy who has been a center his entire life, has virtually no perimeter skills to speak of, and whom his best assets are his shot-blocking and offensive rebounding skills—which usually entail being as close to the basket as possible.

This is a very smart move by Williams. The Nets should have been playing him at small forward from the start of the season.

[Preludepunk27]

Did you use a quote talking about how he has no SF skills to justify that the nets have misused him and they should have been playing him at the 3 since the start of the season?

[rag-time4]

Did you use a quote talking about how he has no SF skills to justify that the nets have misused him and they should have been playing him at the 3 since the start of the season?

The quote says he doesn't have perimeter skills, it doesn't say he doesn't have SF skills.

Can you read?

If he's not a perimeter player offensively then post him up! Other SFs will have a tough time defending him in the low post, don't you think?

[Preludepunk27]

.....right because we need a SF who can only play close to the basket clogging up the space for Lopez to work? That is nowhere near the type of SF we need on this team. We tried it for a few years with having a slashing SF with a great midrange game with RJ and by the W/L column, that worked out great. As much as I actually don't like him, we need a guy like Rashard Lewis at the 3. Adds length but more importantly, spreads the D. Keeps them honest. If he was on our team, I'd set him on the perimeter on whatever block Lopez is on and just wait for the double team to come so he could kick it out and Lewis could torch them or does a quick swing to vince/devin when the close-out on him comes. Does Williams have the ability to his the 18-20 footer consistently? Not at all. Hell he barely has range outside of 10 feet.

Regardless, having a strong inside and outside game is essential for a SF in this league. Williams doesn't posses 1/2 of that, and his inside game is nothing to right home about either ESPECIALLY if he put him at the 3 which would pull him away from the better part of his game. This is the reason why I don't understand why your quote justifies the Nets should have been playing him there. If the guy can't play the 3, why bark at the coaching staff about not playing him there? If they felt he could, they would have. Him trying to play the 3 is just his agent trying to spin it that he's more versatile than he is to hopefully boost his trade value to get him out of town.

[vincecarter4pres]

Yeah, I completely agree with Prelude, period.

Although, another explanation for him wanting to play SF, is possibly the 14ers had a complete scrub starting at SF and decent players at the 4 and 5, so maybe he is just trying to be crafty and allow himself as much playing time as possible.

Either way, this guy is not a SF, hell he doesn't even have the offensive game to be a reliable option at the 4.

[Chris Morris]

Yeah, I completely agree with Prelude, period.

Thank you for including that "period" at the end of your statement. I was worried for a second there that you were wavering on your show of solidarity with Prelude when you said you "completely agree" with him.

Although, another explanation for him wanting to play SF, is possibly the 14ers had a complete scrub starting at SF and decent players at the 4 and 5, so maybe he is just trying to be crafty and allow himself as much playing time as possible.

I'm pretty sure I read that they are putting him at SF with the intention of giving him time there.

Either way, this guy is not a SF, hell he doesn't even have the offensive game to be a reliable option at the 4.

On a different team, he could get away with playing the 3 easily. Sean has no issues scoring with no one in front of him. Any of the 28 teams in this league that actually play a lick of defense can put him to use in the transition game. Turnovers -> Easy Buckets.

[rag-time4]

.....right because we need a SF who can only play close to the basket clogging up the space for Lopez to work? That is nowhere near the type of SF we need on this team. We tried it for a few years with having a slashing SF with a great midrange game with RJ and by the W/L column, that worked out great. As much as I actually don't like him, we need a guy like Rashard Lewis at the 3. Adds length but more importantly, spreads the D. Keeps them honest. If he was on our team, I'd set him on the perimeter on whatever block Lopez is on and just wait for the double team to come so he could kick it out and Lewis could torch them or does a quick swing to vince/devin when the close-out on him comes. Does Williams have the ability to his the 18-20 footer consistently? Not at all. Hell he barely has range outside of 10 feet.

Regardless, having a strong inside and outside game is essential for a SF in this league. Williams doesn't posses 1/2 of that, and his inside game is nothing to right home about either ESPECIALLY if he put him at the 3 which would pull him away from the better part of his game. This is the reason why I don't understand why your quote justifies the Nets should have been playing him there. If the guy can't play the 3, why bark at the coaching staff about not playing him there? If they felt he could, they would have. Him trying to play the 3 is just his agent trying to spin it that he's more versatile than he is to hopefully boost his trade value to get him out of town.

I do agree that Williams lacks shooting range, but I disagree with your conclusion.

More than just posting up, Williams can be used as a cutter when Lopez is posting up, and if he is kept in the mid-range area, he can punish defenses by attacking the rim when he's left open.

I don't understand why playing him at the 3 would 'automatically' pull him away from the better part of his game. Defensively, I think every SF in the NBA will have trouble scoring on Williams with anything other than jumpers, and even then, he's gonna pick up some blocks. Rebounding, he'll be in much better shape with his size, as he won't be consistently matched up with bigger players, so he would help his team in the rebounding department while he is often at a slight disadvantage if he's playing PF or C. Being at SF would help his rebounding, as he wouldn't be pushed around as much.

Williams at SF would make the Nets much better defensively than they are with Simmons at SF.

Btw, does being at PF take Anderson and Yi away from their perimeter shooting?

[vincecarter4pres]

Yeah, I completely agree with Prelude, period.

Thank you for including that "period" at the end of your statement. I was worried for a second there that you were wavering on your show of solidarity with Prelude when you said you "completely agree" with him.

Man, someone has sand in their vagina this afternoon.

[rag-time4]

Williams at SF would also be a big factor in his teams transition defense. How many times did he make defensive plays in transition last season? You guys should know better than me. Can any of the other SF's on the Nets make defensive plays in transition like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFUuBDqBHvY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nLtLgZMdSs

[NjNeTs1029]

but he has no perimeter game at all

[Preludepunk27]

Williams at SF would also be a big factor in his teams transition defense. How many times did he make defensive plays in transition last season? You guys should know better than me. Can any of the other SF's on the Nets make defensive plays in transition like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFUuBDqBHvY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nLtLgZMdSs

If he had the offensive skills of Tayshaun Prince, he would be flat out incredible for us on both ends of the court. Sadly, I can't see him progressing to even a poor man's 'Shaun to merit playing him at the 3 in the NBA. It's a shame.

[rag-time4]

but he has no perimeter game at all

He's not a great shooter but he can handle the ball well enough to be a threat to attack the rim from the mid-range area. Even if he had 'no perimeter game at all,' so what?

Ryan Anderson has no inside game to speak of. Does that mean he can't play PF? No: he plays PF from the perimeter. So does Yi, for the most part. If these players can play PF from the perimeter, why can't williams play SF from the inside, or from the mid-range area?

Do any of you guys remember Charles Smith? He played SF for the very successful Knicks teams of the mid 90s. He didn't shoot threes at all. How was his perimeter game? I seem to remember him playing more in the paint offensively with the Oakman taking lots of long jumpers. Did that clog up the lane for Ewing?

Actually, Williams is such a threat to finish in the paint that even if he's in the paint with Lopez, opposing teams would be foolish to not keep a body on Williams at all times.

[vincecarter4pres]

Pork chop sandwiches!

[BigWil17]

Looks like this guy is a complete head case. www.netsdaily.com has the d-league articles of him not joining his team in the locker room and already got thrown out of a game. And while he was up here, he was complaining too.

[NetsForce]

It's stuff like that which I can't understand or justify... I mean as far as I know he never pulled that crap when he was with the Nets, and I understand that he's frustrated and what not but wtf Sean... If you want out of NJ fine, but here's some advice start acting like a NBA player.

[Preludepunk27]

Yeah, honestly, even with his little episodes, what he was doing on the court was not causing teams to be like "oh man, he could work out on our team. Let's see if we can get him for next to nothing from the nets. If he works out, JACKPOT." Hell I can name a few D-League players that I know teams would rather have then him. Hell if his contract wasn't guaranteed, I'd waive his ass and sign Julius Hodge. At least he knows how to play the small forward position.

[vincecarter4pres]

I am just hoping a team will trade us their 1st round pick for this guy, but it looks more and more doubtful everyday that he is allowed to talk out loud and make his own decisions beyond which cereal he is gonna eat for breakfast.