Sacramento Vs Dallas 1/11/2009

[deNIEd]

Beno for Jason Collins or Jason Hart or any pathetic incompetent expiring please

Kind of a poorly time statement, don't you think? If Beno could play every game like he played tonight, he would be worth his contract.

Not really.

I don't think he can play like the way he did last night every single night. So far, I'm correct.

The problem with a player like Beno is simply, when he isn't performing there isn't a single team in the league that you could possibly trade him to, however, when he is performing, you start wondering if he can play like that every game.

So far he's had what, 4-5 good games all season? That kind of consistency I won't cut it coming from a team's starting Point Guard.

His defense is terrible, mediocre in terms of setting up teammates, and simply is a bottom 3 starting PG when he isn't playing well, and a bottom 10 starting PG when he is playing well.

[King Baller]

I think Beno can play quite a bit better on a consistent basis. I don't see either of the Bobby's or Cisco starting. If the Kings do draft or trade for a franchise saving PG I don't think trading Beno will be a problem

Beno has good skills and has a lot of heart.

KB

PS Nice win Go Kings

[deNIEd]

Beno has good skills and has a lot of heart.

Beno has absolutely ZERO heart

[King Baller]

Beno has good skills and has a lot of heart.

Beno has absolutely ZERO heart

You know this because...........???

KB

[SacKingZZZ]

I disagree. The Kings played pretty well. They were focused, determined and aggressive. They still made mistakes, as did the Mavs. But the Kings just played last night like they are finally figuring out how to click together. The ball movement was very good, the spacing was improved and our guards limited their selfish plays. It was just a good team win.

I was also really impressed with Thompson last night. There were a few plays where he reminded me a lot of Webber. I can't way for this guy to mature...he's going to be a real force.

No question the Kings played well but down the stretch the Mavs were missing wide open shots. Dirk also had a miserable game which doesn't usually happen against the Kings.

[pillwenney]

Not really.

I don't think he can play like the way he did last night every single night. So far, I'm correct.

The problem with a player like Beno is simply, when he isn't performing there isn't a single team in the league that you could possibly trade him to, however, when he is performing, you start wondering if he can play like that every game.

So far he's had what, 4-5 good games all season? That kind of consistency I won't cut it coming from a team's starting Point Guard.

His defense is terrible, mediocre in terms of setting up teammates, and simply is a bottom 3 starting PG when he isn't playing well, and a bottom 10 starting PG when he is playing well.

I don't necessarily disagree with everything you're saying, I was more speaking to the fact that you brought it up at a weird time.

But to be fair, this was also one of the team's only good games of the season. And to be even fairer, he had a pretty good stretch from the end of November to the beginning of December, where he averaged 14.4PPG on 49% from the field with 6.5 assists to 3.2 TOs. Still not spectacular numbers, but it is proof that he has had more than just a couple good games. And that's not even including his good game against the Clippers.

But again, I'm not saying he hasn't had a disappointing year so far. But it is encouraging that something of a breakthrough game for the team was also a good game for him. It's understandable to have not had a good season so far. And that's certainly not meant to give Beno a pass, but I also think that we shouldn't just give up on him. Especially since we don't really have much of a choice.

[deNIEd]

I agree, that it may not be the time to simply give up on him, since he should be given a longer window of opportunity to prove himself, but, I guess, for me it would all depend on how much Petrie likes this batch of PG's in the upcoming draft. Jennings, Holiday, Curry, Mills, Lawson, etc. If he likes them and believes that they will be quality/great players, then I would just bail out on Beno. EVEN though, he could potentially perform like he did yesterday on a daily basis.

The thing that I disagreed most with the Beno signing was that we "didn't have a choice." True, we may not have had another PG at the time, but I don't think you should ever force a signing/trade/draft pick, simply because you "don't have a choice." Having a huge hole in 1 position for a year, is far better than having a tiny patch for multiple years to come.

[pillwenney]

I agree, that it may not be the time to simply give up on him, since he should be given a longer window of opportunity to prove himself, but, I guess, for me it would all depend on how much Petrie likes this batch of PG's in the upcoming draft. Jennings, Holiday, Curry, Mills, Lawson, etc. If he likes them and believes that they will be quality/great players, then I would just bail out on Beno. EVEN though, he could potentially perform like he did yesterday on a daily basis.

The thing that I disagreed most with the Beno signing was that we "didn't have a choice." True, we may not have had another PG at the time, but I don't think you should ever force a signing/trade/draft pick, simply because you "don't have a choice." Having a huge hole in 1 position for a year, is far better than having a tiny patch for multiple years to come.

Well those guys would still need to prove that they are quality players in the league, for one thing. I wouldn't bail on Beno until said players were actually better than him.

But I also kind of disagree with this. If Beno does player like he's capable of playing, he'll be worth his contract, and should be relatively movable within the next couple of years. So with that in mind, we did need some kind of starting caliber PG this year, and Beno made the most sense.

[deNIEd]

Well, with Beno I mean

Say there is a 30% chance that he performs at a B level PG
there is a 70% chance that he performs as a D level PG

Is that 30% chance worth the risk? To me, it isn't simply because that I feel that a few PG's this year in the draft can match his performance as well as many players that we could sign.

(I know the percentage and whatnot isn't exact or correct, but just that general train of thought)

[pillwenney]

Well, with Beno I mean

Say there is a 30% chance that he performs at a B level PG
there is a 70% chance that he performs as a D level PG

Is that 30% chance worth the risk? To me, it isn't simply because that I feel that a few PG's this year in the draft can match his performance as well as many players that we could sign.

(I know the percentage and whatnot isn't exact or correct, but just that general train of thought)

But see, the draft is a risk as well. I mean a million things could happen. What if the BPA isn't a PG? What if B-Jax gets hurt like he has so many times in the past and we're left with Bobby Brown and no one else at PG? And of course, what if the PG that we might draft is a bust? It's entirely possible.

I just don't think it's worth giving up Beno right now for that risk. Keep him around until we know we have something better. He's too talented to get any worse. Especially at his age, he can only get better from here.