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Post#1 » by Triple M » Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:51 pm

With Perk out for some time Veal is going to have a good opportunity to step it up. The last 2 days he has looked solid but he still has scrub like quality and is a limited player. However if he is solid for this stretch does that make him crack into the 8-9 man rotation when TA and Perk come back. One good think from yesterday we got to see how Powe looked beside KG though it was against a soft team.
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Post#2 » by humblebum » Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:17 am

Scal has been a serviceable player thus far in the season. His stroke is definitely looking good and you can tell he's playing with confidence. The Celtics just seem to have too few complete-near complete frontcourt players, all of them have major holes in their games from Davis, to Scal, to Powe, and to a lesser extent Perk.
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Post#3 » by Hemingway » Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:37 am

And yet Scals signing has benn called... what was it.. asinine?

Scal does a good job with the first unit. I doubt he cracks the real rotation, the playoff time rotation as he doesn't play as well with the second unit. Scal is a coaches player for sure.
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Post#4 » by PP34RA10 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:43 am

scal still sucks, playing the craptors back to back will cure any scrubs deficiancies... hopefully some team will buy into the hype and ainge trys to trade him
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Post#5 » by Celtics2000 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:05 am

Maybe Brian Scalabrine has earned himself a few more minutes at forward when Perk comes back. He was able to handle some strong passes this game. As much as I like Powe and Baby, Scal tends to have better hands and less error prone. He will not win a game, but maybe in the mix he can reduce our turnovers and not lose one. We are making too many turnovers. The bench has played better lately but are still too sloppy. Also, even though I am not one clammering for more POB, I am surprised he is not brought in for some size mismatches on Baby and Powe. It is a human chess match afterall
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Post#6 » by Dave_From_NB » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:24 am

If Scal was sitting on the bench at a Vet minimum salary, he'd not be such a negativity target. Unfortunately he's overpaid for his role, which frankly is Ainge's fault, not Scals. I think we get a little too fixated on his salary sometimes.

I've got to think that a key to a 3 point shooter, is playing enough to get into some rythym and confidence. His shot looks a lot better than last year - same shot but it's hitting a bit better. 4 for 9 on 3 pointers, 7 for 14 overall. Thats acceptable (past 2 games).

He's an ok fill in, can do a few roles. He's not the most physically gifted player certainly, but with those limitations he does ok.

I wonder if he could have been used a bit more against Lebron, mostly to play him hard and give Pierce a break. Cool to see Scal playing with an attitude this week. Paul getting exhausted being the only one covering Lebron is something that needs fixing.

And hey, we didn't have to watch Davis in the starting lineup, which is a bit of a blessing.
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Post#7 » by Bad-Thoma » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:31 am

Scal is doing exactly what he was signed for, he sits on the bench with no complaints, is a good locker room guy, and is ready to back up 3 positions in an emergency. As soon as the team is healthy, back to the bench. It's interesting how Doc starts him when someone is hurt and doesn't play him much when the team is healthy, it keeps the rotations pretty much intact. It's nice to have a guy that's ready to go and is versatile. At least that is how I've always seen Scal, he's a bit scary with the ball in his hands and not particularly talented but overall a nice complimentary piece, Doc doesn't have to worry about developing him or getting him minutes, he's just there to chink up the dam when it starts to leak.
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Post#8 » by ryaningf » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:33 am

Scal's a situational player and the Raptors were the perfect situation for him. Against most teams he'll continue to struggle. It's still a bad signing, not only because of the money, but because of the roster spot.
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Post#9 » by MaxwellSmart » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:03 am

Scal signed with us when NOBODY else would....Nobody.
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Post#10 » by chakdaddy » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:27 am

Bad-Thoma wrote:Scal is doing exactly what he was signed for, he sits on the bench with no complaints, is a good locker room guy, and is ready to back up 3 positions in an emergency.


And he's getting 15 million over 5 years to do it. A sane GM finds guys for 1 year, veteran minimum to do that job. Hence the fact that his signing was COMPLETELY asinine.

This is the first year his role is close to what he was signed for - a key rotation guy. One does not sign an emergency, locker room guy to a 5 year contract!!!
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Post#11 » by Triple M » Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:22 am

i don't mind the money when it comes to scal but 5 years was way to long a contract for a non roation guy at the time i was saying 15 mil over 3 years is much better then 5 years even though he would of been overpaid
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Post#12 » by sox839 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:23 am

Scal signed with us when no one else would and Ainge offered the contract and scal was smart to take it. There have been other guys who are role players getting much higher priced contracts like brian cardinal, speedy claxton, raef lafrentz, jared jeffries, jason collins, damon jones, marcus banks, matt carroll luke ridnour and mark blount. Now all the guys i listed are overpaid by a huge amount. Scal has done well he was decent the year before last and when Ainge signed him he had had a nice season in new jersey and a couple of big playoff games. I think Scal is a the type of player if he got consistent 15 minutes a game his stats would be better. Well he should be starting the next few games so i want him to do well. If he has more games like the last couple it will help the team out.
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Post#13 » by humblebum » Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:32 pm

I'm sure that Scal has brought some leadership and continuity to the team though, which is a really tough thing to gauge if we're not fully connected to the interior aspects of the ballclub. And frankly, I think he has some positive qualities at the NBA level, mostly shooting and BBIQ on both ends. And like everyone has mentioned, he knows his role and he doesn't complaing. He's a professional.
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Post#14 » by humblebum » Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:33 pm

I just wanted to add that in some strange way he has a hold on the Boston crowd, who better to get the crowd fired up at key moments by hitting 3 pointers.
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Post#15 » by cfan79 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:40 pm

Scala might actually be worth something now. I say we feed him the ball and get his numbers up.
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Post#16 » by Bad-Thoma » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:05 pm

chakdaddy wrote:
Bad-Thoma wrote:Scal is doing exactly what he was signed for, he sits on the bench with no complaints, is a good locker room guy, and is ready to back up 3 positions in an emergency.


And he's getting 15 million over 5 years to do it. A sane GM finds guys for 1 year, veteran minimum to do that job. Hence the fact that his signing was COMPLETELY asinine.

This is the first year his role is close to what he was signed for - a key rotation guy. One does not sign an emergency, locker room guy to a 5 year contract!!!


Hey, if DA is insane then I like insane, we did just hang a banner. I'm not saying it's a great contract for the team when it comes to Scal, or that he's indispensable or anything, just that both the negativity against him and his contract are far overstated.
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Post#17 » by Hemingway » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:28 pm

There have probably been well over 100 posts or replys saying that Scal is way overpaid and a horrible contract. I disagree. He is on for about 5 mil a year. It would be one thing if we were right around the cap and Scals contract forced us to trade a player we like to get under the cap. To my memory this has not happened. Yeah 5 mil is a lot of money but it is not our money and it hasn't held us back in any way. Furthermore, next year as an expiring contract it could have real value. Scal is one of the only guys we have not making a ton of money or very little money. I think Danny signed him for future trade a salery matching purposes as he did on court play. The kicker is his on court play has been pretty good at times.

We have yet to lose a game where Scal starts all year. Someone could check maybe to see if we have lost one where he played significant minutes. Scal's deal is ojne of the biggest misconceptions about this team.
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Post#18 » by ryaningf » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:52 pm

Hemingway wrote:There have probably been well over 100 posts or replys saying that Scal is way overpaid and a horrible contract. I disagree. He is on for about 5 mil a year. It would be one thing if we were right around the cap and Scals contract forced us to trade a player we like to get under the cap. To my memory this has not happened. Yeah 5 mil is a lot of money but it is not our money and it hasn't held us back in any way. Furthermore, next year as an expiring contract it could have real value. Scal is one of the only guys we have not making a ton of money or very little money. I think Danny signed him for future trade a salery matching purposes as he did on court play. The kicker is his on court play has been pretty good at times.

We have yet to lose a game where Scal starts all year. Someone could check maybe to see if we have lost one where he played significant minutes. Scal's deal is ojne of the biggest misconceptions about this team.


I think you're a little off on your numbers. Scal signed a 5 year, 15 million dollar deal, which boils down to 3 million a year, which is still overpaid in my book...not THAT overpaid, but more than he's worth, especially considering the salary makeup of our team. Just look at our team salary numbers. Scal's the 5th highest paid Celtic. That's not fair in any sense of the word. But, the truly bad thing about the deal isn't the money, which is reasonable to an extent (there are TONS of overpaid players in the NBA), it's the years and the roster spot. We could easily signed someone better and cheaper than Scal these last two seasons, or used his salary to give someone else a bigger deal. And that's the crux of the issue with Scal, what we're paying him and the roster spot he's taking up could have been used to fill an actual need, like backup center or backup point guard. Scal doesn't fill a need. He's handy is certain situations, but if he wasn't here we wouldn't miss him because a more handier, more talented, less expensive player would be in his place.
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