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Now, I am firmly in the camp that believes rookies are almost never favorable to vets when it comes to role playing. That being said, I think that Bill has the body and the mind to get a shot at back SF.
If the team really wants another shooter I can understand that, which is not Bill's forte, but as a on-ball defender and off-ball scorer, he could provide something in addition to a shooting specialist.
I see the team needs being floor spacing F/C, playmaking G, and shooting/defending wing as the order of priority. Assuming that the team looks to address in that order, it would be great to see if Walker has the ability to fill 8-10 minutes for the club.
Now, both Walker and Giddens are about to get their first "progress report" since they left town some time ago. I sincerely hope that one or each has reached a level of development that would put them on an equal footing to Gabe Pruitt - who is showing that he can also provide effective, limited minutes.
As long as the team is biding its time for those necissary vet FA acquisitions, why not see if we can get something out of the existing talent on the roster - not a crazy usage, but a controlled experiment...with Pierce's knee bugging him, i'm hoping the team's hand may be somewhat forced this next week...
...if so, take it and run with it Billy...
If the team really wants another shooter I can understand that, which is not Bill's forte, but as a on-ball defender and off-ball scorer, he could provide something in addition to a shooting specialist.
I see the team needs being floor spacing F/C, playmaking G, and shooting/defending wing as the order of priority. Assuming that the team looks to address in that order, it would be great to see if Walker has the ability to fill 8-10 minutes for the club.
Now, both Walker and Giddens are about to get their first "progress report" since they left town some time ago. I sincerely hope that one or each has reached a level of development that would put them on an equal footing to Gabe Pruitt - who is showing that he can also provide effective, limited minutes.
As long as the team is biding its time for those necissary vet FA acquisitions, why not see if we can get something out of the existing talent on the roster - not a crazy usage, but a controlled experiment...with Pierce's knee bugging him, i'm hoping the team's hand may be somewhat forced this next week...
...if so, take it and run with it Billy...
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Tonight's game is kind of a throw away if Perk, Pierce, and TA aren't playing (or will be on limited minutes). Great chance to play all the young guys minutes...but would Doc do this.
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With Paul dinged up, and TA still on the way back (anyone heard if he's playing tonight?), I really really hope Doc dresses the kid and gives him some minutes to play. One of Doc's shortcomings, in my opinion, is that he underestimates the energy a young player can infuse into the entire team at large, while overestimating the calming influence of veterans. There have been situations screaming for a little Pruitt or POB, maybe for just 3 minutes or whatever, and Doc will just not do it (POB should have absolutely played against Golden State, Perk was out and POB had the revenge factor which would have erased his docility for at least one game). Now, we could really use a jump start, and with TA and Paul ailing, tonight's the perfect excuse to throw Bill out there. Take a chance, Doc!
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Well, Dickerson just reported that TA's in a boot right now and won't play for at least another week! Same with Perk, who's shoulder loosened when he was hit on Friday. They're probably being super cautious with both of these players. Paul, on the other hand, will play, apparently. It's weird how cautious they are with TA and Perk on one hand and then how it seems like Paul always plays through his injuries. It's probably a question of Paul's standing on the team and his ability to play through pain, which is legendary. Anyway, there's no good excuse not to play Walker tonight. He needs to see at least a couple minutes. Count me as excited.
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Wasn't Bill's percentages from 3 not bad in the D League? I understand they don't play much defense and he probably gets most of his shots off without even a hand in his face, but it shows he's not completely inept on his jumper.
And yeah, with TA down and Pierce limping, he really needs to get some burn, maybe JR too. I was hoping when they were brought up that that was what they were there for and not just for medical reasons.
And yeah, with TA down and Pierce limping, he really needs to get some burn, maybe JR too. I was hoping when they were brought up that that was what they were there for and not just for medical reasons.
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Eh, I think on the POB vs. GS thing that Doc is probably right in not playing POB. That sword cuts both ways... if POB struggles in that scenario, what does it do to his confidence? And plus, Doc's a pretty consistent and regimented guy which is good for a team in general (we've seen this with Terry Francona and the Red Sox), he won't stray from his gameplan and that helps to focus the team and the individual players (who are in the rotation) on their roles.
With regards to Walker, I think that it would just be interesting for us as fans moreso than for Doc. I'd love to see Walker, just like I'd love to see POB play against GS, but I doubt Doc would do it, unless Pierce really was going to miss some games. Still Doc would more than likely just extend Rondo/Ray and slide Scal and Pruitt into extended roles before looking to Walker. The reason being? Doc has identified guys who he thinks can help the team in the stretch run/playoffs and he'll prioritize those guys consistently over guys who he's deemed as projects. And that's just the long and short of it IMO.
With regards to Walker, I think that it would just be interesting for us as fans moreso than for Doc. I'd love to see Walker, just like I'd love to see POB play against GS, but I doubt Doc would do it, unless Pierce really was going to miss some games. Still Doc would more than likely just extend Rondo/Ray and slide Scal and Pruitt into extended roles before looking to Walker. The reason being? Doc has identified guys who he thinks can help the team in the stretch run/playoffs and he'll prioritize those guys consistently over guys who he's deemed as projects. And that's just the long and short of it IMO.
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Lol....POB got to play at 1.1secs left in the game so what makes you guys think Walker will get any chance? Why in the hell do you sub someone with 1.1 sec left? That's kind of insulting. It was a meaningless time since we already won. Ehhhh...what's up Doc? Tic Doc Tic Doc Tic Doc
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humblebum wrote:Eh, I think on the POB vs. GS thing that Doc is probably right in not playing POB. That sword cuts both ways... if POB struggles in that scenario, what does it do to his confidence? And plus, Doc's a pretty consistent and regimented guy which is good for a team in general (we've seen this with Terry Francona and the Red Sox), he won't stray from his gameplan and that helps to focus the team and the individual players (who are in the rotation) on their roles.
With regards to Walker, I think that it would just be interesting for us as fans moreso than for Doc. I'd love to see Walker, just like I'd love to see POB play against GS, but I doubt Doc would do it, unless Pierce really was going to miss some games. Still Doc would more than likely just extend Rondo/Ray and slide Scal and Pruitt into extended roles before looking to Walker. The reason being? Doc has identified guys who he thinks can help the team in the stretch run/playoffs and he'll prioritize those guys consistently over guys who he's deemed as projects. And that's just the long and short of it IMO.
I agree with your assessment of Doc and I also agree that his consistency has done wonders for this team. That said, he could stand to take a few chances once in a while, especially when it comes to playing young players. When Doc gets into trouble, it's because he's sticking too close to his plan, even when the contingencies of the game, schedule, or roster say otherwise. On a veteran championship team that is tired, nicked up, and slightly bored with the process (which might have been a fair assessment of this team between 12/26 and 1/10), the enthusiasm provided by POB, Pruitt, Walker, or Giddens might have been just the jolt the team needed to pull out a few more Ws, which not only would have helped in the standings, but which also might have been invaluable team- and player-building experiences. Instead, Doc stayed consistent, which on the one hand builds confidence, but which on the other hand puts up unnecessary limits on how good the team can (potentially) become. But I can't argue with Doc's end results. They have worked, I just would rather, if I'd been coach, taken more chances with our rookies, to see what kind of unexpected bumps of enthusiasm they might provide, since great teams are often fueled by the push/pull between the veterans and the young players.
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I agree with the notion that Doc should give one of the young guys an expended role just for the sake of infusing more energy into the team. A big reason for this is that the same scenario pretty much happened last year and it worked. Pretty much in the same point of the year last year, we went into a rut losing 3 out of 4 games including 2 straight to Washington and then barely beating Portland at home. The team was tired, getting outworked and outrebounded. Doc decided to play a guy who had barely played up to that point in the season - Leon Powe - and it worked. Leon infused some energy into the team and became a solid role player even into the finals. Doc took a chance that time and it paid off. He should try it again right now when the team is tired/dinged up with one of the young guys to give the team a lift.
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For the record, I'd also like Doc to occasionally stray from his game plan to play some younger players a bit more, but I also understand where Doc is coming from. Infusing energy is definitely a good way to think about it but Doc probably just thinks of it as infusing mistake prone players into the mix, which in some instances seemingly hurts the team.
I think the guy who really needs to get more minutes though is Gabe Pruitt, who IMO, is a fantastic defender, athlete, with a lot of potential to be a weapon offensively. I like his game a lot and IMO he could just outright replace Eddie House's minutes and I wouldn't bat an eye really.
I think the guy who really needs to get more minutes though is Gabe Pruitt, who IMO, is a fantastic defender, athlete, with a lot of potential to be a weapon offensively. I like his game a lot and IMO he could just outright replace Eddie House's minutes and I wouldn't bat an eye really.
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I think we will see out rookies get some burn between now and all-star break. For the sake of their development, a week or two even of limited but regular rotation minutes would give them a real taste of the NBA. Even if they haven't earned it, and likely they have not, a week or two would be good for them and give us a chance to see what we got.
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82games.com hasn't updated their data since January 5th, so is 4 games behind.
However, to really justify Walker, you have to see who he actually replaces.
Paul Pierce at SF, 37 MPG, NET PER of +5.7
Ray Allen as backup SF, 11 MPG, NET PER of +14.4
Overall, Celtics are 2nd Best SF combo behind Cleveland
Ray Allen at SG, 25.7 MPG, NET PER of +9.8
Tony Allen at SG, 19.7 MPG, NET PER of +2.5
Gabe Pruitt logs 2/3's of his minutes defending SG's when paired with Eddie House,
even though Gabe functions as PG on offense, while
Eddie defends the opposing PG.
Gabe Pruitt at SG, 3 MPG, NET PER of NEGATIVE 8.2
So, to justify using Walker, his NET PER needs to exceed Tony Allen's of +2.5,
to take time from Tony as an SG, or to back up Pierce, and have
Ray Allen spend more minutes at SG. Either way, Bill Walker needs to beat out Tony.
Pruitt defending SG's is undesirable, but a consequence of being pared with Eddie House.
It's startling to note when Gabe actually plays straight PG on offense and defense,
his NET PER is +1.3, which means that he is a decent backup PG for most teams,
and probably worth a 30 to 35 pick. I still don't think he's good enough for a
Championship aspiring team because no matter how good Pruitt's defense,
his field goal shooting percentage of 33% just isn't good enough.
So, my preference is to find someone to take Pruitt's position,
rather than hoping Walker or Giddens are better than Tony.
But if Walker is better than Tony Allen, sure.
But I suspect that that is two year's away.
However, to really justify Walker, you have to see who he actually replaces.
Paul Pierce at SF, 37 MPG, NET PER of +5.7
Ray Allen as backup SF, 11 MPG, NET PER of +14.4
Overall, Celtics are 2nd Best SF combo behind Cleveland
Ray Allen at SG, 25.7 MPG, NET PER of +9.8
Tony Allen at SG, 19.7 MPG, NET PER of +2.5
Gabe Pruitt logs 2/3's of his minutes defending SG's when paired with Eddie House,
even though Gabe functions as PG on offense, while
Eddie defends the opposing PG.
Gabe Pruitt at SG, 3 MPG, NET PER of NEGATIVE 8.2
So, to justify using Walker, his NET PER needs to exceed Tony Allen's of +2.5,
to take time from Tony as an SG, or to back up Pierce, and have
Ray Allen spend more minutes at SG. Either way, Bill Walker needs to beat out Tony.
Pruitt defending SG's is undesirable, but a consequence of being pared with Eddie House.
It's startling to note when Gabe actually plays straight PG on offense and defense,
his NET PER is +1.3, which means that he is a decent backup PG for most teams,
and probably worth a 30 to 35 pick. I still don't think he's good enough for a
Championship aspiring team because no matter how good Pruitt's defense,
his field goal shooting percentage of 33% just isn't good enough.
So, my preference is to find someone to take Pruitt's position,
rather than hoping Walker or Giddens are better than Tony.
But if Walker is better than Tony Allen, sure.
But I suspect that that is two year's away.
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humblebum wrote:For the record, I'd also like Doc to occasionally stray from his game plan to play some younger players a bit more, but I also understand where Doc is coming from. Infusing energy is definitely a good way to think about it but Doc probably just thinks of it as infusing mistake prone players into the mix, which in some instances seemingly hurts the team.
You're right about that, and that's why Giddens or Walker don't have any realistic chance of breaking into the 2nd unit as it is currently constituted--they'd make a young and inexperienced 2nd team that much more young and inexperienced (but, if the 2nd unit gets another veteran, there might be room for Walker or Giddens in a more consistent role, if they can handle it). But for a few games here or there, when the situation's right (like Scal against the Raptors), it's a no-brainer, in my opinion, to use everything you have. Walker and/or POB/Giddens might just be the best matchup against player X, and I'd like to see Doc recognize that once in a while and roll the dice. I don't think he does that enough.
humblebum wrote:I think the guy who really needs to get more minutes though is Gabe Pruitt, who IMO, is a fantastic defender, athlete, with a lot of potential to be a weapon offensively. I like his game a lot and IMO he could just outright replace Eddie House's minutes and I wouldn't bat an eye really.
Me too. It has infuriated me to no end to see Eddie House getting the extra couple minutes with the first unit (usually, now that TA's on the shelf, Eddie's the last sub on the court before all the starters return), when he usually just spent the last 8 minutes chucking 3s, getting burnt on defense, and gumming up the offense with his inability to dribble. Anyone with eyes knows Pruitt is the better the point, and in my book a better offensive player too because he can do MORE than simply hit open jumpers--he can dribble penetrate, run a pick-and-roll, get to the rim, create his own shot, and shoot effectively off-the-dribble, not to mention his clear advantage over Eddie on the defensive end. But Doc is a stubborn guy and he's been letting Eddie get the extra time with the starters, even though those 2-3 minutes in the first and second halves where Eddie's playing point with the starters haven't amounted to much these last 10 days or so. Gabe should be getting those minutes and as a perfect example of what I'm talking about, think back to just last week against the Rockets when Gabe, after hitting 2 shots--the only shots the Cs made in the first 6 minutes of the 4th quarter--was subbed out ahead of Eddie House. Eddie hadn't hit anything all game, couldn't handle Brooks at all on the defensive end, and yet Doc stays with him for 2-3 minutes with the first unit in the 4th quarter. Needless to say, Eddie played terrible at the point, didn't hit a shot, and let Brooks hit a wide open three. Pruitt was the only guy who was able to guard Brooks that game (even counting Rondo), and yet Doc goes away from him for no reason except Eddie's the veteran. That kind of conservative substitution pattern is what really irks me about Doc--he needs to recognize that in that game Gabe was having the better night and was the better matchup against Brooks. But he didn't. Coaches like Phil Jackson, Don Nelson, or Popovich are able to consistently make that kind of recognition and until Doc is able to do that as well, on a consistent basis, he can't be included in that echelon of coaching.
Now, I wouldn't go as far as saying House needs to be completely benched. He is still an effective player on some nights and we can definitely use his 3-point-ability to stretch the defense with certain units, even on nights when he's not hitting. But, like Scal and Baby, I think Eddie is a situational player and should be played as such. Personally, I'd give him limited minutes at the 2 and see if he's getting open and hitting his shots. If he is, you play him more--if not, you don't. Unlike TA or Pruitt, House only brings one thing and it's a variable thing to boot--if that one thing isn't showing, there's no reason to play him. On the other hand, not only do TA and Pruitt bring multiple things to the table--one of those things--defense--is a constant and should be on display every night. For that reason, they should be stable members of the 2nd unit, at least if I were coaching.
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Jammer wrote:....
Pruitt defending SG's is undesirable, but a consequence of being pared with Eddie House.
It's startling to note when Gabe actually plays straight PG on offense and defense,
his NET PER is +1.3, which means that he is a decent backup PG for most teams,
and probably worth a 30 to 35 pick. I still don't think he's good enough for a
Championship aspiring team because no matter how good Pruitt's defense,
his filed goal shooting percentage of 33% just isn't good enough.
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And isn't Gabe's net PER at point guard greater than House's? That's the thing--you might not think Gabe is championship caliber, but I'm pretty sure he's better than House. And I'm also pretty sure his FG % will increase with time, consistent minutes, and confidence. He's too good a shooter to shoot just 33%. And, while it may just be my anecdotal remembrances, but it seems to me that Gabe doesn't really play well in garbage time, which may be affecting his FG %, since he's had mostly garbage time this season. He's more of a gamer and in the games where he's played meaningful minutes he's usually played well.
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The Celtics have a bunch of defensive specialists.
Perk, Tony Allen, Pruitt, even Rondo, who's often not a scorer against top defenses.
House's NET PER is +0.2, but he achieves his mostly with offense,
rather than Pruitt, who's achieves his PG ONLY total of +1.2 mostly with defense.
The Celtics need scoring, often, over defense,
especially in the second unit,
since other than Pierce or Ray Allen,
and Eddie House's jump shot,
there aren't really any consistent scorer's in the second unit,
and Davis and Powe are extremely vulnerable to being scored on
by opposing BIGS.
So, House actually fits the team needs more,
and that is why I say the Celtics need to replace Tony or Gabe
with a better scorer. My preference is Gabe,
and I base that primarily on his 0.333 Field Goal Percent.
If the kid could make shots, he would be a good player.
Right now, he doesn't though, and I don't think anyone in Celtic HQ
is gonna pencil Gabe in as someone they can count on the playoffs.
Marbury, for all his headaches, is a proven scorer/distributor.
The Celtics have a bunch of defensive specialists.
Perk, Tony Allen, Pruitt, even Rondo, who's often not a scorer against top defenses.
House's NET PER is +0.2, but he achieves his mostly with offense,
rather than Pruitt, who's achieves his PG ONLY total of +1.2 mostly with defense.
The Celtics need scoring, often, over defense,
especially in the second unit,
since other than Pierce or Ray Allen,
and Eddie House's jump shot,
there aren't really any consistent scorer's in the second unit,
and Davis and Powe are extremely vulnerable to being scored on
by opposing BIGS.
So, House actually fits the team needs more,
and that is why I say the Celtics need to replace Tony or Gabe
with a better scorer. My preference is Gabe,
and I base that primarily on his 0.333 Field Goal Percent.
If the kid could make shots, he would be a good player.
Right now, he doesn't though, and I don't think anyone in Celtic HQ
is gonna pencil Gabe in as someone they can count on the playoffs.
Marbury, for all his headaches, is a proven scorer/distributor.
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Jammer wrote:ryanf:
The Celtics have a bunch of defensive specialists.
Perk, Tony Allen, Pruitt, even Rondo, who's often not a scorer against top defenses.
House's NET PER is +0.2, but he achieves his mostly with offense,
rather than Pruitt, who's achieves his PG ONLY total of +1.2 mostly with defense.
The Celtics need scoring, often, over defense,
especially in the second unit,
since other than Pierce or Ray Allen,
and Eddie House's jump shot,
there aren't really any consistent scorer's in the second unit,
and Davis and Powe are extremely vulnerable to being scored on
by opposing BIGS.
So, House actually fits the team needs more,
and that is why I say the Celtics need to replace Tony or Gabe
with a better scorer. My preference is Gabe,
and I base that primarily on his 0.333 Field Goal Percent.
If the kid could make shots, he would be a good player.
Right now, he doesn't though, and I don't think anyone in Celtic HQ
is gonna pencil Gabe in as someone they can count on the playoffs.
Marbury, for all his headaches, is a proven scorer/distributor.
Good stuff, Jammer, but I scoff at the notion of Eddie House being a consistent shooter....he's a streak shooter/scorer, who's FG% is helped by his propensity to hit a lot of garbage time shots. I wish somebody would figure out his FG% when the game is still in doubt, but to me it seems he makes a ton of shots when we're up or down 15 plus points in the fourth quarter. And even when he's ON and hitting his shots, the price we pay from the lack of playmaking and defense is sometimes not worth it (hence the almost ZERO net PER rating). I'd argue that if there was a real point guard on the 2nd unit, the offense of everyone would improve, thus lessening the need for a 2nd unit scorer. That's where Gabe Pruitt comes in. I think he could score just as much as Eddie and help improve everyone else's offensive #s at the same time, while providing better defense.
I'd also have to disagree on the necessity of a consistent 2nd unit scorer. We are a defensive team, and to be successful the 2nd unit just has to be consistent on the defensive end. That's what we were last season on the 2nd team, a streak shooting, hustle, defensive 2nd team that got by with a bad point guard because we could defend and we had veterans to bail out our poorly run offense. No veterans this year, and so the need for a real point guard is more pressing. No veterans also leads to poorer 2nd team defense, which points towards playing the superior defenders more minutes. Who's the better point guard and better defender? That'd be Pruitt and that's why he should be getting all the backup point minutes. Eddie has his value as a streak 3 point shooter, but that's where it ends.
Marbury could probably do a lot for our 2nd team, but I neither think it's a real possibility (NY has to buy him out, and do so before the March playoff roster deadline) nor do I think it's our most pressing need. Right now, we need a veteran center who can play backup 5 and start when necessary (since Perk has a shoulder that will always iffy), which would not only shore up the center position, it might also add the necessary veteran glue that 2nd unit so desperately needs.
So, in the end, I think the scoring problem on the 2nd unit is better solved INDIRECTLY by playing the better point guard and defender (Pruitt), and by adding a veteran big man to the 2nd unit rotation.
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I agree complelely with ryaningf, the Celtics need to turn Gabe loose, regardless of his shooting statistics at this point in the season. Doc is constantly attempting to balance Gabe's current level of ability vs. his potential when deciding how many minutes to give him. I believe that Gabe has a ridiculously high ceiling (if he taps all of that potential) and even though he's low down on his personal ladder of development he still brings some critical elements to this ballclub. Firstly, his defense is really top notch. He's long and slender, but very quick and reasonably strong for a PG, he has very good instincts and makes plays on the ball defensively. The way he approaches the defensive side of the basketball just brings a real sense of security and consistency, he DOES NOT gamble like Rondo and Eddie tend to do. Offensively, he has some pretty serious tools to work with. For one, the dude is lightning quick and has great elevation on his jumpshot, with a pretty decent stroke too. He can definitely finish around the rim as well, I think he's just scratching the surface here.
I thought that our bench looked best in the preseason when we were playing Gabe-Eddie-TA combos with Powe being featured in the post. If the C's can develop Gabe into that role and use TA and House selectively, PLUS adding a veteran big man a la Joe Smith, I could really see big things for this team's second units come the second half of the season and stretch run.
I thought that our bench looked best in the preseason when we were playing Gabe-Eddie-TA combos with Powe being featured in the post. If the C's can develop Gabe into that role and use TA and House selectively, PLUS adding a veteran big man a la Joe Smith, I could really see big things for this team's second units come the second half of the season and stretch run.
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I'd love to see Walker get minutes too, he is a good player. However, our bench is very inperienced and we need to add some vets before the trade deadline. We need guys off the bench that understand the game. After all, we are trying to repeat.
Last year we had Posey and Brown off the bench that understood the game. This year we don't have that. It's still not too late. If you surround Walker with vets, than that would be an ideal situation.
A bench rotation of:
SF: Bill Walker
PF:Powe or KG (if we want 2 starter at all times)
C: Brown or Mourning
SG: Ray(keep one stater in)
PG: Cassell, or Marbury, or Pargo
A bench like that, Walker can be effective and we can have a great chance to repeat.
Last year we had Posey and Brown off the bench that understood the game. This year we don't have that. It's still not too late. If you surround Walker with vets, than that would be an ideal situation.
A bench rotation of:
SF: Bill Walker
PF:Powe or KG (if we want 2 starter at all times)
C: Brown or Mourning
SG: Ray(keep one stater in)
PG: Cassell, or Marbury, or Pargo
A bench like that, Walker can be effective and we can have a great chance to repeat.
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Well, ryaningf:
Gabe is starting to look like a point guard.
For a while, Eddie House tried to run the sets from up top,
but I'd agree the second unit is better with Gabe running the point
and Eddie as a shooter on the wing.
And there is still the unfortunate situation of
Gabe having to check the opposing 2-guard when paired with Eddie House.
Gabe is a much better defender when he gets to check the opposing point guard.
Makes me wonder how Gabe would do with a different shooting guard alongside him
in the second unit (Tony, Giddens or Bill Walker)?
Gabe is starting to look like a point guard.
For a while, Eddie House tried to run the sets from up top,
but I'd agree the second unit is better with Gabe running the point
and Eddie as a shooter on the wing.
And there is still the unfortunate situation of
Gabe having to check the opposing 2-guard when paired with Eddie House.
Gabe is a much better defender when he gets to check the opposing point guard.
Makes me wonder how Gabe would do with a different shooting guard alongside him
in the second unit (Tony, Giddens or Bill Walker)?
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billfromboston:
Walker looked good tonight against the Nets.
Still, I'm concerned that if he is 6' 4.5" true height,
does he have the size for small forward in today's NBA?
With a good jump shot, and 3 point range, I think so.
But I don't know that he's quick enough to move over to shooting guard.
Doesn't look like it right now.
Walker looked good tonight against the Nets.
Still, I'm concerned that if he is 6' 4.5" true height,
does he have the size for small forward in today's NBA?
With a good jump shot, and 3 point range, I think so.
But I don't know that he's quick enough to move over to shooting guard.
Doesn't look like it right now.