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[40] Lakers@Rockets 7:30pm-Jan-13-09 Super Duper Game Thread

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Re: [40] Lakers@Rockets 7:30pm-Jan-13-09 Super Duper Game Thread 

Post#401 » by moofs » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:04 am

Hm, it's possible I was wrong about the Dinky thing.
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Post#402 » by DynastySS » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:04 am

Why did you perceive it as an insult? I was merely curious.
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Post#403 » by T-Wack » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:05 am

Yao just needs to stop losing us games, then me and him will be tight again.
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Post#404 » by Guy986 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:08 am

moofs wrote:Hm, it's possible I was wrong about the Dinky thing.


No, now i'm absolutely sure he is Dinky.
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Post#405 » by moofs » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:10 am

Yeah, I meant it that way. Didn't think he was before.
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Post#406 » by T-Wack » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:15 am

Guy986 wrote:
moofs wrote:Hm, it's possible I was wrong about the Dinky thing.


No, now i'm absolutely sure he is Dinky.


I thought I was msniper? Or was it T-Smac? I've been accused of being like eight different people since I got here, and I have yet to see anybody even attempt to tell me why.
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Post#407 » by BaYBaller » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:15 am

There was a couple of crucial mistakes. First being Landry passing up the open 15 footer. He has hit that all season and he has to have confidence in himself. We moved the ball and got an open shot, that's the whole point of moving the ball. Passing it back to Alston forced Alston to get anything up and while he did draw the foul we all saw what happened there.

Secondly Adelman told Yao if he got it, to go up quick because of the time. In those tight situations it's hard to know if there is enough time for the pass and shot. This is exactly the reason why all (good) teams play outside-in during the final, crucial minutes. By working outside-in instead of inside-out you have a ball-handler and probably a very capable scorer with the ball. This allows the player to work the clock as he sees fit and score if the opportunity presents itself or kick it for a open shot for a teammate. You cannot expect for your center to make plays for you when you give him the ball at like 3 secs. I can guarantee if anybody here on this board was put in the same position you'd probably F it up even worse. Once I saw Yao get the ball @ 3 secs and him fumbling it and not being in a position to score himself I knew we lost the game.

Now if you absolutely have to go into Yao during the clutch you simply have to give him the ball earlier in the shot clock so he can survey the defense and make the play. However I would not do this because it opens up the possibility of allowing the other team the last possession. If I were Adelman I would have put Brooks back in and let him make the play. Not only was there absolutely no way Fisher could keep up with Brooks so that he could break down the defense, but Brooks is also another capable 3 point scorer and I don't care what he was shooting this particular game. And remember, Brooks came up big in BOS, Adelman should have rewarded that effort and build upon his confidence.

I felt that was a very big mistake on Adelman's part because the win here wasn't important, it was helping the team grow. Just imagine a confident Brooks running the point with a healthy T-Mac coming down picks off the ball and Yao posting up down low, Battier on the strong cornor and Luis or Landry on the weakside baseline. There are so, so many options there to score, it would be impossible to defense.
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Post#408 » by DynastySS » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:16 am

T-Wack wrote:Yao just needs to stop losing us games, then me and him will be tight again.

And your boy T-mac is doing what now?
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Post#409 » by hackle » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:16 am

good game by us, though Yao didnt make a shot in the 4th. and how did yao get no free throws at all (the one he made was a technical?) i just dont understand it.
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Post#410 » by Baller 24 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:18 am

LOL, Yao...Dinky do you understand that Yao did something McGrady hasn't done the entire season? Play his heart and effort out. He had a fabulous game, was involved, and playing great defense. McGrady during the Thunder had 26 points, but was absolutely terrible in the 3rd and 4th, does that make his entire game bad? You're a Hater, its an insult to the Houston Rockets Organization to have a fan like you---stop ridding T-Mac's jock strap and support the Rockets.
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Post#411 » by tha_rock220 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:20 am

Has Yao ever hit a game winner?? Seriously, the late 4th quarter comes and he stops making shots. An even bigger mystery is why did Rafer Alston have the ball to float up that short layup. Even if he's a choker, the ball should have gone to Yao.
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Post#412 » by Baller 24 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:28 am

tha_rock220 wrote:Has Yao ever hit a game winner?? Seriously, the late 4th quarter comes and he stops making shots. An even bigger mystery is why did Rafer Alston have the ball to float up that short layup. Even if he's a choker, the ball should have gone to Yao.


Well that game against Portland might have been Yao at his finest in a clutch situation, but Brandon Roy had a luck on his side.
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Post#413 » by tha_rock220 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:32 am

Baller 24 wrote:
tha_rock220 wrote:Has Yao ever hit a game winner?? Seriously, the late 4th quarter comes and he stops making shots. An even bigger mystery is why did Rafer Alston have the ball to float up that short layup. Even if he's a choker, the ball should have gone to Yao.


Well that game against Portland might have been Yao at his finest in a clutch situation, but Brandon Roy had a luck on his side.


What about Rafer having the ball in his hands on the Rockets last real possession???
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Post#414 » by abcdef » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:38 am

Honestly I don't know why they ever run a pick-and-roll with Yao and Rafer. The opposing team simply goes under the pick. Rafer then either shoots a brick, or tries to drive to the rim and shoots a floater, which bricks. Basically the defense goes under the pick and stops Yao from rolling, and forces Rafer to score, which he can't do. But Adelman seems to like this play. He went to it repeatedly down the stretch instead of posting up Yao, which was working; the Lakers were doubling on the catch and that was opening things up for other people.

Edit: Also, when the Lakers turned the ball pressure way up in the last minute of the game, our guards simply could not handle the ball. That Battier trey resulted from an almost-steal and a loose ball and Brooks couldn't handle it cleanly on the last play. That is something that we definitely need to work on. It looked like the CNT guards out there.
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Post#415 » by nonplayerzealot » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:46 am

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smapor wrote:I am still perplexed how we had 6FT the whole game for 47mins (besides the 2 FT at the end).

I thought we had home court and calls are suppose to favor us.


You come to expect that when you play the Lakers you play 5 on 8 pretty much all of the time. Thats just one of the unwritten rules of the NBA. Just gotta learn to accept that.


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Post#416 » by CuttingEdge » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:20 am

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Iggyemu wrote:
smapor wrote:I am still perplexed how we had 6FT the whole game for 47mins (besides the 2 FT at the end).

I thought we had home court and calls are suppose to favor us.


You come to expect that when you play the Lakers you play 5 on 8 pretty much all of the time. Thats just one of the unwritten rules of the NBA. Just gotta learn to accept that.


= Rockets have no chance against the Lakers. Doomed to be lorded over.


We beat the Laker's @ Home last season.
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Post#417 » by jzmagik » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:43 am

abcdef wrote:Honestly I don't know why they ever run a pick-and-roll with Yao and Rafer. The opposing team simply goes under the pick. Rafer then either shoots a brick, or tries to drive to the rim and shoots a floater, which bricks. Basically the defense goes under the pick and stops Yao from rolling, and forces Rafer to score, which he can't do. But Adelman seems to like this play. He went to it repeatedly down the stretch instead of posting up Yao, which was working; the Lakers were doubling on the catch and that was opening things up for other people.

Edit: Also, when the Lakers turned the ball pressure way up in the last minute of the game, our guards simply could not handle the ball. That Battier trey resulted from an almost-steal and a loose ball and Brooks couldn't handle it cleanly on the last play. That is something that we definitely need to work on. It looked like the CNT guards out there.


Excellent point, I'd really like to see some Wafer pick and rolls because he can actually shoot and finish at the rim.
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Post#418 » by Iggyemu » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:21 pm

CuttingEdge wrote:
We beat the Laker's @ Home last season.


Exactly....you can still beat them. You just have to know you play 5 on 8 and deal with it.
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