Fatt Lipp's Off-Season : switch to a 3-4

[Lippo]

Capers in as DC.

Resigned:
Tramon Williams
Collin Cole
Mike Montgomery

Extended:
Greg Jennings
Nick Collins

Cut/Release
Mark Tauscher
Jarrett Bush

FA Signings
Julius Peppers
Patrick Ramsey
Marcus Tubbs

Trade 1(9) for 1(21) + 2(53)
Trade Brohm to Carolina for 2(61)
Trade Nick Barnett to Indy for 2(59)

Draft
1(21): S William Moore, FS/SS, Missouri Height: 6-1. Weight: 227. Projected 40 Time: 4.45.
2(41): OT William Beatty, Connecticut Height: 6-6. Weight: 310. Projected 40 Time: 5.12.
2(53): OLB Clint Sintim, Virginia Height: 6-3. Weight: 254. Projected Projected 40 Time: 4.66.
2(59): DE Tyson Jackson, LSU Height: 6-5. Weight: 292. Projected 40 Time: 4.85.
2(61): CB Darius Butler, Connecticut Height: 5-11. Weight: 186. Projected 40 Time: 4.36.
3(73): ILB Dannell Ellerbe, Georgia Height: 6-1. Weight: 235. Projected 40 Time: 4.60.
3(83): WR/TE Ramses Barden,Cal Poly-SLO Height: 6-6. Weight: 226.Projected 40 Time:4.55.
4(105): T/G Xavier Fulton, Illinois Height: 6-6. Weight: 298 Projected 40 Time: 4.95.
5(137): T/G Augustus Parrish, Kent State Height: 6-6. Weight: 308. Projected 40 Time: 5.13.
6(169): P Kevin Huber, Cincinnati Height: 6-1. Weight: 220
6(174): DT Antonio Dixon, Miami Height: 6-3. Weight: 328. Projected 40 Time: 5.30.
7(201): FB Conredge Collins, Pittsburgh Height: 6-0. Weight: 230. Projected 40 Time: 4.56.


QB:Rodgers,Ramsey,Flynn
RB:Grant,Jackson,Wynn,Lumpkin
FB:Collins,Hall
WR:Jennings,Driver,Jones,Nelson,Barden
TE: Lee,Finley,Humphrey
OT:Clifton,Beatty,Fulton,Parrish,Giacomini
OG:Colledge,Sitton,Spitz,Babre
C: Spitz,Wells
K: Crosby
KR: Blackmon,Nelson

DE: Jackson,Jenkins,Jolly,Harrell,Tubbs
DT: Pickett,Cole,Tubbs,Harrell,Jolly
OLB: Peppers,Kampman,Stinton,Poppinga,Montgomery,Hunter,Thompson
ILB: Hawk,Bishop,Ellerbe,Chillar
CB: Woodson,Williams,Harris,Butler,Lee,Blackmon
S: Collins,Moore,Rousse,Bigby
P: Huber
PR:Blackmon,Butler

[Ill-yasova]

Only two LB's? I don't think so. Teams that run 3-4 take like four LB's every draft. Safety with the first pick? You have Collins, Bigby, and Rouse. Not even close to their biggest need. OT's and LB's are highest priority followed closely by DT. I would be irate with this draft.

[Lippo]

Only two LB's? I don't think so. Teams that run 3-4 take like four LB's every draft. Safety with the first pick? You have Collins, Bigby, and Rouse. Not even close to their biggest need. OT's and LB's are highest priority followed closely by DT. I would be irate with this draft.

Brown/Orapko/Johnson are not worth the 9th pick, and won't be there at a trade down. I also have us signing Peppers, who wants to play OLB in a 3-4. I would have targeted Selvie to play opposite Peppers, but Stintim/Poppinga/Montgomery/Hunter/Thompson(all prototype OLB's in size) can man the other OLB spot.

Harrison and Woodley were not top 10 picks. Stintim is the prototype OLB. If Aaron Curry is there however, run to the podium and draft him with the 9th.

Look ate the last 4 teams left, safeties where the key. getting Moore(best safety in the draft) would solidfy our D) he is Landry part duex. Hes Collins playmaking skills in Rousses body.

[ReasonablySober]

Brown is absolutely worth the #9.

As for the free agent signings, I think Thompson will try and ultimately watch as these guys go somewhere else.

[Ill-yasova]

Only two LB's? I don't think so. Teams that run 3-4 take like four LB's every draft. Safety with the first pick? You have Collins, Bigby, and Rouse. Not even close to their biggest need. OT's and LB's are highest priority followed closely by DT. I would be irate with this draft.

Brown/Orapko/Johnson are not worth the 9th pick, and won't be there at a trade down. I also have us signing Peppers, who wants to play OLB in a 3-4. I would have targeted Selvie to play opposite Peppers, but Stintim/Poppinga/Montgomery/Hunter can man the other OLB spot.

Harrison and Woodley were not top 10 picks. Stintim is the prototype OLB. If Aaron Curry is there however, run to the podium and draft him with the 9th.

If we do decide to trade down, I like the Idea of taking BJ Raji. I just don't see the Peppers thing happening (hope I'm wrong though). Ithink Montgomery and Hunter will be lucky to still have jobs. Neither showed any pass rushing instincts or ability, and I'm not sure Poppinga is athletic enough. I'm not a big fan of Johnson, but would gladly take a chance on Brown, or Orakpo. Good value with Sintim or English a little later on.

[Lippo]

Brown is absolutely worth the #9.

As for the free agent signings, I think Thompson will try and ultimately watch as these guys go somewhere else.

He does look alot like Ware IMO, but I Like William Moore/Clint Sintim better than
Everette Brown/Chip Vaughn.

[Lippo]

Is there any chance we have Kampman lose another 5lbs and play OLB also (Kevin Greene wasnt any more athletic than Kampman). Peppers and Kampman at OLB, our run defense would be the best in the league. We would probably get killed in the flat though.

[Ill-yasova]

Is there any chance we have Kampman lose another 5lbs and play OLB also (Kevin Greene wasnt any more athletic than Kampman). Peppers and Kampman at OLB, our run defense would be the best in the league. We would probably get killed in the flat though.

Not a bad Idea if they could find a replacement at DE. Although Peppers is almost 20 lbs heavier than Kampman, sowhy should Kampman lose weight, but not Peppers?

[ReasonablySober]

Brown is absolutely worth the #9.

As for the free agent signings, I think Thompson will try and ultimately watch as these guys go somewhere else.

He does look alot like Ware IMO, but I Like William Moore/Clint Sintim better than
Everette Brown/Chip Vaughn.

What do you like about William Moore? He was awful last season.

[ReasonablySober]

Is there any chance we have Kampman lose another 5lbs and play OLB also (Kevin Greene wasnt any more athletic than Kampman). Peppers and Kampman at OLB, our run defense would be the best in the league. We would probably get killed in the flat though.

Eh. I don't think you want to ever see Kampman drop back into coverage, which is what our OLBs will have to do.

I'd be very open to a trade involving Aaron. I love the guy, but he's wasted as an interior lineman in the 3-4.

[Ill-yasova]

Is there any chance we have Kampman lose another 5lbs and play OLB also (Kevin Greene wasnt any more athletic than Kampman). Peppers and Kampman at OLB, our run defense would be the best in the league. We would probably get killed in the flat though.

Eh. I don't think you want to ever see Kampman drop back into coverage, which is what our OLBs will have to do.

I'd be very open to a trade involving Aaron. I love the guy, but he's wasted as an interior lineman in the 3-4.

Again, Peppers is almost 20 lbs heavier than Kampman. Why could Peppers do it, but Kampman can't?

[Lippo]

Is there any chance we have Kampman lose another 5lbs and play OLB also (Kevin Greene wasnt any more athletic than Kampman). Peppers and Kampman at OLB, our run defense would be the best in the league. We would probably get killed in the flat though.

Eh. I don't think you want to ever see Kampman drop back into coverage, which is what our OLBs will have to do.

I'd be very open to a trade involving Aaron. I love the guy, but he's wasted as an interior lineman in the 3-4.

Agree, if we could get Jared Allen value for him woot, but he is the prototype Packer, they won't trade him IMO. He can't play de in a 3-4 full time. He would wear down and be useless as a pass rusher. I see him playing at OLB on running downs and DE in passing situations, which isnt very practical, or fair to him.

I keep thinking of Keven Greene.. He did it and had zero coverage skills. Merriman cant cover.

[ReasonablySober]

Is there any chance we have Kampman lose another 5lbs and play OLB also (Kevin Greene wasnt any more athletic than Kampman). Peppers and Kampman at OLB, our run defense would be the best in the league. We would probably get killed in the flat though.

Eh. I don't think you want to ever see Kampman drop back into coverage, which is what our OLBs will have to do.

I'd be very open to a trade involving Aaron. I love the guy, but he's wasted as an interior lineman in the 3-4.

Again, Peppers is almost 20 lbs heavier than Kampman. Why could Peppers do it, but Kampman can't?

I'm not saying Peppers can. That said, he's also an unreal athlete. I also think that if needed he could lose 10-15 pounds if asked.

[Ill-yasova]

I think Kampman can play every down as DE. What is he going to be double teamed? Wouldn't be the first time. No reason to think he would wear down.

[Lippo]

Is there any chance we have Kampman lose another 5lbs and play OLB also (Kevin Greene wasnt any more athletic than Kampman). Peppers and Kampman at OLB, our run defense would be the best in the league. We would probably get killed in the flat though.

Eh. I don't think you want to ever see Kampman drop back into coverage, which is what our OLBs will have to do.

I'd be very open to a trade involving Aaron. I love the guy, but he's wasted as an interior lineman in the 3-4.

Again, Peppers is almost 20 lbs heavier than Kampman. Why could Peppers do it, but Kampman can't?

because Peppers is a freak, he has more picks at DE than probably anyone in the NFL. He played College BB and has better agilty than 1/2 the LB's in the league.

[Lippo]

I think Kampman can play every down as DE. What is he going to be double teamed? Wouldn't be the first time. No reason to think he would wear down.

because instead of a T and TE he has to get around, he will have a T/G he has to occupy.
3-4 DE's dont really penetrate, they block the OT's and G's from the LB's

[Kerb Hohl]

Trade Harris and the Jets 3rd for a high pick in the 2nd round.
Trade Kampmann for a late 1st. Maybe add our 4th to move up to that spot if need be.

Sign Suggs or Peppers in that order if possible.

1st(9): Everette Brown
1st(22): Tyson Jackson
2nd(7): Ron Brace
2nd(9): Eben Britton

Draft a few impact/speed RB/WR/CB late.

This is a total dream/unlikely/risky scenario seeing as Suggs/Peppers probably won't get away and I don't even know if we can make trades to find that kind of value.

But if you could throw Jackson | Brace/Pickett | Jenkins
Brown | Hawk | Barnett | Suggs out there you'd really be talking.

Roll with Britton at LT and shift Clifton to RT and start working Colledge in as your hopeful long-term solution at RT or look for another one in FA or the draft next year.

[jakecronus8]

Only two LB's? I don't think so. Teams that run 3-4 take like four LB's every draft. Safety with the first pick? You have Collins, Bigby, and Rouse. Not even close to their biggest need. OT's and LB's are highest priority followed closely by DT. I would be irate with this draft.

Orapko not worth the 9th pick

[Lippo]

Orakpo is best as a RE also in a 4-3 IMO, a bit stiff like Hali/Freeney type. if we want that we could get greg hardy late in the 1st.

[ReasonablySober]

No we can't. He went back to school. Good move for him. If he's healthy next season he could be the first defensive player taken.